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[FeralEwok]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^Nope.

I read whole thing and we don't know anything more about other squadmates, except that all of them will appear.

I was asking if you thought it was going to happen.  I know there's nothing as of yet.

Remember how everybody found out that Garrus was Archangel before ME2 hit the shelves even though BW was super tight-lipped about it?  Something like that.

Im betting that at E3 Casey Hudson or someone at BW will recieve that question to which they will give some vague answer for us to pick apart at till we get 100 new threads asking for Hudson's head on a plater because BW is selling out by not including Tali...then when people get sick of the arguement *New squad reveal*

Fans, trolls, self righteous game critics will rejoice

[AdmiralCheez]

Bamboozalist wrote...

The real question now is, will the comic let you choose who lives and who dies in the SM to an extent?

My guess is this:

1. All squadmates are considered loyal, and only LMs that have possible weight in ME3 will be included.

2. During conflicts such as Jack v. Miri, the player must choose who to side with, if they are included at all.

3. Thus, Jack/Miri and Tali/Legion will be mutually exclusive, much like Samara/Morinth.

4. Characters that have non-combat cameos will be assumed to be dead.

[Bamboozalist]

FeralEwok wrote...

Im betting that at E3 Casey Hudson or someone at BW will recieve that question to which they will give some vague answer for us to pick apart at till we get 100 new threads asking for Hudson's head on a plater because BW is selling out by not including Tali...then when people get sick of the arguement *New squad reveal*

Fans, trolls, self righteous game critics will rejoice

Bioware can't flatout say either "No we're sorry we screwed up, we're not making a real trilogy, we can't bring your former teammates back beyond one mission, here is who is coming back" or "Yeah everyone's back" because then people would have nothing to **** about for months on end.

[Alienmorph]

From what we know the situation could be: 

Core Team - AKA unavoidable squadmates

- Virmire Survivor: the "big reward" thing makes it very likely.
- Liara: Mac Walter's pet and the only character in the whole saga safe from dead.
- James Sanders: it would be silly introduce a new squadmate only for a temporary role.

And probably a combo of new characters and a few of the ME2's squaddies, giving you a basic team made of something like 6-8 characters, partially influenced by what happened in ME2.
The most likely to be again in team are probably Miranda (plot armor and Cerberus importance points that she'll be there), Garrus (favourite male character of the whole saga, and already confirmed as returning somehow), Tali (friggin' popular and she's got 1/2 of chances to don't have anywhere else but the Normandy to call home) and Grunt or Wrex, because a krogan in the team is mandatory and introducing a third krogan when Grunt was already designed to be a replacement for Wrex would be silly.

Optional and Temporary Squadmates - Characters important in terms of plot but not-so-popular, that will be partially sidelined. 

- Anderson: possible both as optional and temporary squadmates.
- Legion: optional recruitment, very likely to be a temporary squadmate in the geth/quarian crysis sequence, especially if your Shepard will side with geths.
- Jack: temporary squadmate, I imagine she won't join the Alliance to remain with Shepard, but I can totally see her team-upping once more with Shepard while we'll hunt down Cerberus.
- Jacob: same of Jack... I can't imagine him returning to the Alliance after all the times he ****ed because how bad they treated him.

Cameos/not playable characters

- Mordin: we'll have to go on the Salarian's homeworld where there will be a critical argument about curing or not the genophage (said in the GI article) he'll be there for sure, but I imagine he won't start a shootery during a dibate with other salarian scientists. He could eventually join back the crew as medical staffer, but he's also aging... I don't see him very likely as a full squadmate again.
- Samara/Morinth: one of the most meaningless addictions to the story (no offences... I like her, but really she was necessary?) and the exchange of person thing makes her even more messed up. I imagine we'll met her on Thessia, but with SB Liara at our side we won't need other asari diplomatic assistance.
- DlC squadmates: simply because they are DlC squadmates.

The big uknown is Thane... he's popular enough to be a returning character, and also he's the only character vaguealy connected to Drells and Hanars, but his role will be determined by his health status, that will be determined by how much time will pass between ME2 and ME3.

This off course is just a speculative analysis... I could be completely wrong and I know it, but considering the popularity, the plotworthiness and various possible ways that the various squadmates have to return this is, in my opinion, a likely outcome.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 11 avril 2011 - 07:21 .

[xSTONEYx187x]

 I love this thread. 

My guess is, Garrus, Tali, Miranda, Jacob, Kaidan/Ashely, Liara and James Sanders will be the "core" group. The we have the 1 or 2 mission group in Grunt, Legion, Mordin, Jack, Thane (possibly Wrex also) and lastly we will have the cameos, Zaeed and Kasumi.

I could be completly wrong, but at least I'll see them in some capacity. 

[Almostfaceman]

Alienmorph wrote...

From what we know the situation could be: 

Core Team - AKA unavoidable squadmates

- Virmire Survivor: the "big reward" thing makes it very likely.
- Liara: Mac Walter's pet and the only character in the whole saga safe from dead.
- James Sanders: it would be silly introduce a new squadmate only for a temporary role.

And probably a combo of new characters and a few of the ME2's squaddies, giving you a basic team made of something like 6-8 characters, partially influenced by what happened in ME2.
The most likely to be again in team are probably Miranda (plot armor and Cerberus importance points that she'll be there), Garrus (favourite male character of the whole saga, and already confirmed as returning somehow), Tali (friggin' popular and she's got 1/2 of chances to don't have anywhere else but the Normandy to call home) and Grunt or Wrex, because a krogan in the team is mandatory and introducing a third krogan when Grunt was already designed to be a replacement for Wrex would be silly.

Optional and Temporary Squadmates - Characters important in terms of plot but not-so-popular, that will be partially sidelined. 

- Anderson: possible both as optional and temporary squadmates.
- Legion: optional recruitment, very likely to be a temporary squadmate in the geth/quarian crysis sequence, especially if your Shepard will side with geths.
- Jack: temporary squadmate, I imagine she won't join the Alliance to remain with Shepard, but I can totally see her team-upping once more with Shepard while we'll hunt down Cerberus.
- Jacob: same of Jack... I can't imagine him returning to the Alliance after all the times he ****ed because how bad they treated him.

Cameos/not playable characters

- Mordin: we'll have to go on the Salarian's homeworld where there will be a critical argument about curing or not the genophage (said in the GI article) he'll be there for sure, but I imagine he won't start a shootery during a dibate with other salarian scientists. He could eventually join back the crew as medical staffer, but he's also aging... I don't see him very likely as a full squadmate again.
- Samara/Morinth: one of the most meaningless addictions to the story (no offences... I like her, but really she was necessary?) and the exchange of person thing makes her even more messed up. I imagine we'll met her on Thessia, but with SB Liara at our side we won't need other asari diplomatic assistance.
- DlC squadmates: simply because they are DlC squadmates.

The big uknown is Thane... he's popular enough to be a returning character, and also he's the only character vaguealy connected to Drells and Hanars, but his role will be determined by his health status, that will be determined by how much time will pass between ME2 and ME3.

This off course is just a speculative analysis... I could be completely wrong and I know it, but considering the popularity, the plotworthiness and various possible ways that the various squadmates have to return this is, in my opinion, a likely outcome.

I'm looking straight at the Gameinformer article and it says if Garrus survives he comes back as a playable character.  So far, it's not a likelihood - it's reported as a fact.

[Alienmorph]

Garrus is in the group "returning in some istances", considering that the other 3 are very likely to be part of the core team I don't know why him too can't be part of it.

[Anacronian Stryx]

I notice that Liara is in the category : Characters that Bioware says will be playable to some extend.

I don't know but the rest of you but i don't take this as she will be a solid squad mate throughout the game, More like you go on a specific mission - Perhaps to investigate some Protheon ruins or something and decides to bring her along because..well she is Shepards favorite Protheon expert.

After that you probably drops her of at the SB base (much like in LotsB).

[Lvl20DM]

Alienmorph wrote...

Garrus is in the group "returning in some istances", considering that the other 3 are very likely to be part of the core team I don't know why him too can't be part of it.

But even those characters mentioned in the article are listed as "playable to some extent". Sanders seems like the most likely character to be a permanent squadmate. Liara, VS, and Garrus could be temporary or with you the whole game or somewhere in between. The article seems to indicate that Ash/Kaidan and Liara are major squadmates, but we just don't know quite yet. Hopefully we will have a better idea after a few more previews come out this month.

[Mykel54]

I honestly dislike this James Sanders guy, i was hoping that the new squadmates (if there are any) would be refreshing, like i don´t know certain green asari, a batarian, or maybe a military Salarian? Definitely not another human, we already got the cerberus couple and the alliance couple, and then a pletora of humans: Joker and the rest of the crew, plus shepard. This James Sanders better be interesting and not just some "cool guy" to introduce the game to the newcomers.

Modifié par Mykel54, 11 avril 2011 - 07:57 .

[Lvl20DM]

Mykel54 wrote...

I honestly dislike this James Sanders guy, i was hoping that the new squadmates (if there are any) would be refreshing, like i don´t know certain green asari, a batarian, or maybe a military Salarian? Definitely not another human, we already got the cerberus couple and the alliance couple, and then a pletora of humans: Joker and the rest of the crew, plus shepard. This James Sanders better be interesting and not just some "cool guy" to introduce the game to the newcomers.

I don't know, I like the idea of a character that acts as the "newb". It's a good way to fill in new players, as well to instill a sense of depth and nostalgia for those that played the earlier games. If done right, anyway.

[Almostfaceman]

Mykel54 wrote...

I honestly dislike this James Sanders guy, i was hoping that the new squadmates (if there are any) would be refreshing, like i don´t know certain green asari, a batarian, or maybe a military Salarian? Definitely not another human, we already got the cerberus couple and the alliance couple, and then a pletora of humans: Joker and the rest of the crew, plus shepard. This James Sanders better be interesting and not just some "cool guy" to introduce the game to the newcomers.

How can you not like him?  You haven't even met him yet. 

[xSTONEYx187x]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Mykel54 wrote...

I honestly dislike this James Sanders guy, i was hoping that the new squadmates (if there are any) would be refreshing, like i don´t know certain green asari, a batarian, or maybe a military Salarian? Definitely not another human, we already got the cerberus couple and the alliance couple, and then a pletora of humans: Joker and the rest of the crew, plus shepard. This James Sanders better be interesting and not just some "cool guy" to introduce the game to the newcomers.

How can you not like him?  You haven't even met him yet. 

What are the chances he's a Colonel in the Alliance?

EDIT: Actually I take back that terrible "joke". <_<

Modifié par xSTONEYx187x, 11 avril 2011 - 08:06 .

[mmmu]

Alienmorph wrote...

From what we know the situation could be: 
....

Your analysis is pretty much what I'm thinking and looks very plausible. Also I'm liking how it looks Bioware is handling this.

[Eudaemonium]

I think the way Bioware is going to handle the variables will be interesting to see. Though like Mykel54 I am not thrilled with the idea of *another* human squadmate, I will wait to see exactly how he is handled. Having a "newb", like Lvl20DM said, could be rather refreshing from a story perspective.

I'm really up-in-the-air over permanent squaddies in ME3. And a lot of this hinges on exactly what Bioware meant by having a 'balanced team' even if certain characters were dead: do they mean we'll get a new character for every dead one (seems like a lot of work), or simply that the 'roles' of the characters will be filled meaning we won't be screwed over from a gameplay perspective.

As I've written elsewhere, the way I originally thought it would probably work would be that there would be certain 'default survivors' to the SM for people starting fresh (the comic complicates that somewhat). These 'default alive' squaddies would form the core team while others would form cameos and temorary squaddies for imported Sheps. I always assumed Garrus would be in it, as well as Tali and a krogan, probably Grunt. Mordin I assumed would be 'default dead' due to his squishiness, with his possibly significant plot impact (genophage cure) impacting only on imported saves, like the Rachni queen.

To be honest, if I had to pick a dream team of people whose returns are confirmed/likely, it'd be: VS, Liara, Miranda, Thane, Garrus, Tali, Grunt, Legion, with an added Batarian for awesomesauce. James Sanders could fill the generic human male quotient. I'd also prefer Wrex over Grunt but find that unlikely, also if he's even alive he has other (more important) duties than being Shep's right-hand Krogan.

I'm really not that certain that Jacob is going to be back in any significant role, seeing as he never seemed to be particularly popular.

[Eudaemonium]

I *do* reckon you'll have everyone (still alive) for the finale, thus allowing you to go out with a bang in the company of your personal dream team.

[AdmiralCheez]

mrsph wrote...

They may pull a Bethany/Carver and have them available for one part of the game, absent for another part, and back again for the finale.

I can dig this.

[Clover Rider]

mrsph wrote...

And adding Grunt and Wrex to the same team would blow up your house.

I am fine with this.

[Almostfaceman]

mrsph wrote...

And adding Grunt and Wrex to the same team would blow up your house.

Just give them an unlimited supply of Salarian plush dolls to dismember and they'll do that and heat-butt each other until they get tired and need a nap.

Problem solved. :innocent:

[Malanek]

A couple of things. We know that there are characters that are central to the story will be permanent squad members. Their popularity is unimportant. Others will be conventional squad members - you can choose to have them or not. However why would you choose not to have a squadmate?

I have a feeling, possibly being too optimistic, but I think Bioware will go all out for ME3. The main reason given as to why all party members would not be returning was "if everyone from the previous games returned as a permanent party member introducing new characters would be difficult and the party selection screen would be a mess." One possibility is that there will be some characters where you cannot have both. I'm getting the feeling you will pick between Tali and Legion, Mordin and Grunt and maybe even Jack and Miranda. This would help get around the squadmate overload problem while still having those characters available to the players who like them.

Of course their will be some previous squadmates who are simply not available. I suspect Samara, Morinth, Kasumi, Zaeed are unlikely to return. I would guess Jacob seems a touch unlikely as well.

[Wulfram]

Alienmorph wrote...

- James Sanders: it would be silly introduce a new squadmate only for a temporary role.

Wilson, Jenkins?  From Dragon Age there was Mhairi in Awakenings.

[KainrycKarr]

If Tali returns as a perma-squaddie I'll go ahead and pre-order my copy of the CE.

Still, while at least we know everyone's coming back(to some extent), I still refuse to get my hopes to high on anyone but Miranda, the VS, and Liara having any roles larger than a mission-long cameo.


Bioware, the ball is in your court. Surprise me, dammit!

[CulturalGeekGirl]

If Garrus is only back for a single mission, It would screw up his character arc for me. The thing that makes him so awesome, that makes so many people love him, is that he's always there for you. He's your "bro4life" as someone in the previous thread put it. While I think an ending where he finally goes off on his own might be satisfying, having him just stop by for coffee at the end of the world and then go off to do something indeterminate would make me sad.

Heck, I don't care if he doesn't have any major plot relevance, or a lot of dialogue. I just want him there.

Of course I could be wrong. If he's a one or two mission cameo I won't cry too hard, and I won't be surprised really, but I'll be disappointed. As will a lot of people, I think - I hope that if someone as popular as him were just going to be a guest star, they'd give it to us straight rather than risking day 1 disappointments.