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[Cancer Puppet]

I can't believe this is actually a thread.

[theSteeeeels]

either way ill always prefer mirandas buns

when i saw a real life pic of yvonne i nearly cried

[Galenwolf]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

I can't believe this is actually a thread.

go the warcraft forums and you will see...





that







...this thread still looks stupid in comparrsion to the shear amound of fail there.

[wizardryforever]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Why is it that as soon as someone ditches unflattering armor (IE ME1, I thought that armor, among other things, made her horribly unattractive) for a different set that makes them more attractive it's OMG OVERSEXUALIZING?

Probably because it's ****ing stereotypical, mainstream bull**** that happens to tire many of us out.

So, "It's Popular, So it Sucks"?  Check out the trope for that, it's rather amusing.  It also seems couterintuitive that people would argue against something purely because it is popular.  What happens when it stops being popular, would you like it then?  It's also ironic considering how many people use this argument, making it a "popular" argument to use.

Yes, I love women in tight clothing; do I want to see that sexualization all over the effing place, even in quote "emotionally engaging sci-fi " /quote? Not really; unless it's where it belongs, like in a sex scene or a strip joint or whatever.

I've seen nothing in that pic that breaks the mold of what was already established in-universe.

Having a blunt, military-esque woman who's always shown herself to be a soldier first-and-foremost, coming up to battle in something that looks like it belongs at a sexy corporate meeting, does not make me think very highly of Bioware. So let's hope that that's not armor that she's wearing...

So you're saying this character must be hardass, military, and perhaps masculine to avoid the dirty stereotype that females are feminine?  How does that track?  She can still be all of those things no matter what she wears, or how her hair is fixed.  If she really is the deep character that people claim, then her looks should make no difference where her depth is concerned.  Also, is it so wrong to want characters to actually grow and change beyond the initial concept behind them?  Not everyone wants the ME characters to be static, you know.

In my experience, women have a tendency to lean towards things that make them more attractive.

  Seriously?

Seriously.  What rock have you been living under to not notice this?

[Dante Angelo]

I don't really about ashleys hair all I care about is if male shepard will be able to have long hair

[Sylvianus]

Besides, as a fan of Ashley, I totally deny the vision of some of the supposed masculinity of Ashley. Not at all.

Ashley is a soldier, but she is also feminine. That was always the case. she behaves like a woman among soldiers !

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 avril 2011 - 12:09 .

[Da Mecca]

Sylvianus wrote...

Besides, as a fan of Ashley, I totally deny the vision of some of the supposed masculinity of Ashley. Not at all.

Ashley is a soldier, but she is also feminine.

Yes, but doesn't need to take her hair down and take off your armor to show you are feminine.

I romanced Ashley once, I saw ALL of her femininity.

But she is a soldier, soldier keep their hair up and wear armor.

Bottom line.

[M4N0FF4I7H]

Dante Angelo wrote...

I don't really about ashleys hair all I care about is if male shepard will be able to have long hair

Quote of the day,your male shep will look absolutely fabulous with long flowing hair as he strides across the battlefield.

[Gentleman Moogle]

BornFree87 wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

I don't really about ashleys hair all I care about is if male shepard will be able to have long hair

Quote of the day,your male shep will look absolutely fabulous with long flowing hair as he strides across the battlefield.

Fabio shall lead humanity  to victory!

[Da Mecca]

Turns out the secret to beating the reapers was glamour and style.

It's kind of poetic.

[Dante Angelo]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

I don't really about ashleys hair all I care about is if male shepard will be able to have long hair

Quote of the day,your male shep will look absolutely fabulous with long flowing hair as he strides across the battlefield.

Fabio shall lead humanity  to victory!

He also nevers wears a shirt on the battle field

Modifié par Dante Angelo, 14 avril 2011 - 12:21 .

[Sylvianus]

Yes, but doesn't need to take her hair down and take off your armor to show you are feminine.

I romanced Ashley once, I saw ALL of her femininity.

But she is a soldier, soldier keep their hair up and wear armor.

Bottom line.

1- Seriously, going from M1 to M3. She has changed, she made ​​her life, she has matured. No, you will not find Ashley from M1 in M3. No, it will not be a repeat like M1, No we do not want something recycled. We want Ashley from M3 in M3. She is graphically advanced.

2- Must stop with this story of long hair, Female Shepard may have mid-court hair, and even longer as Ashley. And yet It's bother NOBODY  ! It's a game, I do not care whether the fact that she has a bun is less realistic. I want change, something completely rehabilitated Ashley in the serie after she was neglected.

3- She seems much more relaxed, less severe, more confident, experienced. Yet that is precisely why I found consistent, after so many years. Ashley never felt the height because of its history, but today it should be prouder of her than ever.

4- All that matters is that she wears armor, and it keeps the same personality.

5- Her chest does not bother me because it was a leap graph from M1 to M3. Models in M1 were all the same. In M2, she wears armor, I fully agree with those who say it's hide and compress her chest.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 avril 2011 - 12:39 .

[Galenwolf]

If you have to keep your hair up as a solider then Femshep would only be allowed two hairstyles, bun and buzz cut. Yea lets see how that popular that would be.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

wizardryforever wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Severyx wrote...

Why is it that as soon as someone ditches unflattering armor (IE ME1, I thought that armor, among other things, made her horribly unattractive) for a different set that makes them more attractive it's OMG OVERSEXUALIZING?

1. Probably because it's ****ing stereotypical, mainstream bull**** that happens to tire many of us out.

So, "It's Popular, So it Sucks"?  Check out the trope for that, it's rather amusing.  It also seems couterintuitive that people would argue against something purely because it is popular.  What happens when it stops being popular, would you like it then?  It's also ironic considering how many people use this argument, making it a "popular" argument to use.

Yes, I love women in tight clothing; do I want to see that sexualization all over the effing place, even in quote "emotionally engaging sci-fi " /quote? Not really; unless it's where it belongs, like in a sex scene or a strip joint or whatever.

2. I've seen nothing in that pic that breaks the mold of what was already established in-universe.

Having a blunt, military-esque woman who's always shown herself to be a soldier first-and-foremost, coming up to battle in something that looks like it belongs at a sexy corporate meeting, does not make me think very highly of Bioware. So let's hope that that's not armor that she's wearing...

3. So you're saying this character must be hardass, military, and perhaps masculine to avoid the dirty stereotype that females are feminine?  How does that track?  She can still be all of those things no matter what she wears, or how her hair is fixed.  If she really is the deep character that people claim, then her looks should make no difference where her depth is concerned.  Also, is it so wrong to want characters to actually grow and change beyond the initial concept behind them?  Not everyone wants the ME characters to be static, you know.

In my experience, women have a tendency to lean towards things that make them more attractive.

  Seriously?

4. Seriously.  What rock have you been living under to not notice this?

1. I'm not surprised you confused "I'm tired of seeing the same cliches and stereotypes showing up everywhere" with "I don't like the mainstream; it makes me insecure."

2. Fair enough if it's not armor.

3. Masculine? "Practicality" is what I was getting at; plus a bit of makeup is fine. Adopting a "femme fatale" look, though? That's a female stereotype of accentuated femininity, and I tend to see it everywhere. And if "looks" can transcend a character, then wouldn't Miranda look fine wearing heavy armor or hiding her curves in a tuxedo jacket? Outward appearance is a reflection of a character's personality; this was very much the case in ME2, and I don't see why Bioware feels the need to deviate from that purely for fanservice. Ashley in practical combat armor = good, consistent with character; Ashley in catsuit/armor hybrid with cleft neckline = not so in-character. Details are good; what happened to not caring about details?

4. It's hard to use an everyday observation of women to explain a sudden change in a fictional character's appearance.


All I'm saying is that I loved the "realness" of the characters in ME1; it made the experience fresh for me. Apparently, Bioware decided that ME3 newcomers will need an attractive female character on-ship as a romance option, so they changed the design to replace Miranda as "that option". I'm not a fan of the redesign for obvious reasons...

[Cris_Shepard2]

Ashley looks better with her hair down IMO. I found the bun made her look like an old woman

[M4N0FF4I7H]

Cris_Shepard2 wrote...

Ashley looks better with her hair down IMO. I found the bun made her look like an old woman

I disagree,ive always found librarians sexy.

[Malanek]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

I can't believe this is actually a thread.

Can't believe it or don't want to believe it?

[Galenwolf]

BornFree87 wrote...

Cris_Shepard2 wrote...

Ashley looks better with her hair down IMO. I found the bun made her look like an old woman

I disagree,ive always found librarians sexy.

Pucker up then!



^ Discworlds Librarian, sorry couldn't help it.

However im sorry to report but the sexy librarian as far as i've seen doesn't exist that much, my sis works for the libraries.

Modifié par Galenwolf, 14 avril 2011 - 01:15 .

[DarkHod]

can  someone link me a pic of ashleys new look please.

[Sylvianus]

Ashley looks better with her hair down IMO. I found the bun made her look like an old woman

Personally I loved Ashley's bun in M1. But if I see her with exactly the same head, I promise you, i hit the head against the wall because there is mocking the world after years. She has normally evolved since M1.

I always love her, of course. But must stop; in three episodes, one can not make three times the same thing.

Then it is true that Ashley's bun in M2 was already less beautiful in my opinion than in the past in M1. Either because I was getting tired, or because it graphically gave a poorer record in M2, I do not know.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 avril 2011 - 01:21 .

[M4N0FF4I7H]

Galenwolf wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...

Cris_Shepard2 wrote...

Ashley looks better with her hair down IMO. I found the bun made her look like an old woman

I disagree,ive always found librarians sexy.

Pucker up then!



^ Discworlds Librarian, sorry couldn't help it.

However im sorry to report but the sexy librarian as far as i've seen doesn't exist that much, my sis works for the libraries.

Lies,your just trying to keep them to yourself.
Thats probably why you got tons of late return charges.

[wizardryforever]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

1. I'm not surprised you confused "I'm tired of seeing the same cliches and stereotypes showing up everywhere" with "I don't like the mainstream; it makes me insecure."

2. Fair enough if it's not armor.

3. Masculine? "Practicality" is what I was getting at; plus a bit of makeup is fine. Adopting a "femme fatale" look, though? That's a female stereotype of accentuated femininity, and I tend to see it everywhere. And if "looks" can transcend a character, then wouldn't Miranda look fine wearing heavy armor or hiding her curves in a tuxedo jacket? Outward appearance is a reflection of a character's personality; this was very much the case in ME2, and I don't see why Bioware feels the need to deviate from that purely for fanservice. Ashley in practical combat armor = good, consistent with character; Ashley in catsuit/armor hybrid with cleft neckline = not so in-character. Details are good; what happened to not caring about details?

4. It's hard to use an everyday observation of women to explain a sudden change in a fictional character's appearance.


All I'm saying is that I loved the "realness" of the characters in ME1; it made the experience fresh for me. Apparently, Bioware decided that ME3 newcomers will need an attractive female character on-ship as a romance option, so they changed the design to replace Miranda as "that option". I'm not a fan of the redesign for obvious reasons...

Well you were the one to use the word mainstream, along with a bunch of bleeped words.  The conclusion seemed fairly valid based on what was there.  By the way, something is only cliche if you recognize it as cliche and let it get to you.  Some things just can't be handwaved, and I get that, but I honestly don't see this as one of them.

I really don't think she'll be wearing that in combat.  Consider that the newest AA pack for ME2 has armor for Miranda.  I think Bioware understands that we like a bit more believability in combat wear.

I did use the word "perhaps."  Of course a soldier is not masculine by default, I did not mean to imply that.  It's just that it is possible to be a soldier on the field and be a normal person off it.  One does not always dress ready for combat (hair and all) just because one is a soldier.  It is a major aspect of Ashley's character, to the point that it is used as a reason for not joining you on Horizon, but it is not all there is to Ashley.  She is a woman, and a sexy one at that.  I don't think a little more casual clothing and hairstyle changes Ashley's character to any significant degree.  Besides, she is Bioware's character, so they ultimately decide what's in character for her.  You're free to disagree with this, because your interpretation was different.  That's what fan-fiction is for.

And it is just as hard to dismiss such an observation.  Maybe Ashley is motivated like other women in this regard (at least a little) maybe she isn't.  But we have no evidence supporting either side, so each is valid until we know more.

Well it is possible that we'll have Miranda and Ashley on our team simultaneously.  That would cause some tension, especially if you cheated on Ash with Miranda.  Maybe Ash changes her style to be more "sexy" simply because she can, since Miranda can obviously get away with it?  That would be a "real" motivation for her change, IMO.  I see where you are coming from, but I think you're jumping to conclusions, given how little we know.

[Galenwolf]

BornFree87 wrote...
Lies,your just trying to keep them to yourself.
Thats probably why you got tons of late return charges.

I once had a book for 10 years and never got a single charge 

My sister being a Librarian has its perks.

Modifié par Galenwolf, 14 avril 2011 - 01:29 .

[Gan Xingba]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

1. I'm not surprised you confused "I'm tired of seeing the same cliches and stereotypes showing up everywhere" with "I don't like the mainstream; it makes me insecure."

2. Fair enough if it's not armor.

3. Masculine? "Practicality" is what I was getting at; plus a bit of makeup is fine. Adopting a "femme fatale" look, though? That's a female stereotype of accentuated femininity, and I tend to see it everywhere. And if "looks" can transcend a character, then wouldn't Miranda look fine wearing heavy armor or hiding her curves in a tuxedo jacket? Outward appearance is a reflection of a character's personality; this was very much the case in ME2, and I don't see why Bioware feels the need to deviate from that purely for fanservice. Ashley in practical combat armor = good, consistent with character; Ashley in catsuit/armor hybrid with cleft neckline = not so in-character. Details are good; what happened to not caring about details?

4. It's hard to use an everyday observation of women to explain a sudden change in a fictional character's appearance.


All I'm saying is that I loved the "realness" of the characters in ME1; it made the experience fresh for me. Apparently, Bioware decided that ME3 newcomers will need an attractive female character on-ship as a romance option, so they changed the design to replace Miranda as "that option". I'm not a fan of the redesign for obvious reasons...

Seriously, listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about. Which is hilariously ironic considering his screen name.

As for my self, I'm going to believe/hope/pray that this is her civilian atire, or better yet, what she wears when she first meets up with Shep again. That would make perfect sense. That said, when **** starts blowin' up, Ash better armor up.

Modifié par Gan Xingba, 14 avril 2011 - 01:31 .

[M4N0FF4I7H]

Galenwolf wrote...

BornFree87 wrote...
Lies,your just trying to keep them to yourself.
Thats probably why you got tons of late return charges.

I once had a book for 10 years and never got a single charge 

My sister being a Librarian has its perks.

Do these "perks" include http://fallout.wikia...i/Comprehension or http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Educated
If so i "approve".

Modifié par BornFree87, 14 avril 2011 - 01:39 .