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[Fluffy Pyro]

The only recognizable figure for me is Spidey. No idea who everyone else is though.

[wolfennights]

You spend your time in a different part of the galaxy in ME2, so of course most of the culture will be different.

ME1 had the southside, which is more 70s Scifi.
ME2 was northside, which was a more modern feel.

But yes, I do hope we get the look and feel of ME1 back.

[MrGone]

Yeah there is an optimism in ME1 that isn't present in ME2, and yeah it'll be missed. I doubt we'll see anything close to it until some sort of spin-off game honestly.

ME2 had to dwell in darkness, as this was the obvious theme of the game. Working from the shadows, turning Commander Shepard from either your Picard (Paragon) or Kirk (Renegade) archetype into more of a Rick Deckard/Marion Cobretti figure. ME2 was a lot more eighties sci-fi in just about every way.

But ME3 has an ever-present mega-plot that's REALLY heavy. I mean there just isn't a lot of room for happy optimism OR action movie angst when you're worried about total anhillation.

Personally the only Sci-fi that maintained this sense in recent memory was the remake of Battlestar Galactica. Considering they've nabbed some cast members from this series already and I'm betting, probably will nab more for ME3 (here's hoping for Edward James Olmos!) I'd say it's safe to say that there's an infulence from modern BSG in ME at this point, and probably this trend will continue even further.

So expect some primal war beats, and more documentary-esque camera work folks.

[CroGamer002]

I though it was 80s.

[CroGamer002]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ME1 was young and optimistic. The future was a bright, wonderful place where technology made the impossible possible. There were people who lived out there amongst the starts that were just like us, and thought and acted like we did.

ME2 was dark, slick, and angsty. You were forced to work with the enemy, nobody believed or trusted you except your closest friends, everyone had issues, and the universe was ruled by sex, drugs, and violence.

ME3, if all goes well, will finally bring about maturity. You are aware of the galaxy's beauty and ugliness, and you know what is at stake and what you must sacrifice. No more innocence, no more time to bemoan petty personal struggles. In essence, Mass Effect has grown up.

(I'm not sure what I've been smoking, either.)

[TwistedComplex]

.....What?

What do you mean "clearly a homage"?

And what does a 70s sci-fi movie "look like"?

There were several, and they all looked different

[Lukertin]

TwistedComplex wrote...

.....What?

What do you mean "clearly a homage"?

And what does a 70s sci-fi movie "look like"?

There were several, and they all looked different

The biggest homage is the entire music score basically being based off the Bladerunner OST.  This was noticeable absent in ME2, and in ME3, it seems like they completely moved away from that direction, turning toward orchestral/chorus ala Halo, + distortion heavy electric guitars, just sounds kind of...weird.

70's sci-fi movie...look at Star Wars and the stuff prior to it.  Everything is very geometrically simple...triangles, rectangles, circles.  As sci-fi progressed things became sleek, curved, and elongated.

[didymos1120]

Lukertin wrote...

and in ME3, it seems like they completely moved away from that direction, turning toward orchestral/chorus ala Halo, + distortion heavy electric guitars, just sounds kind of...weird.

How would you know this?  They've yet to release any of ME3's music.

[Lukertin]

didymos1120 wrote...

Lukertin wrote...

and in ME3, it seems like they completely moved away from that direction, turning toward orchestral/chorus ala Halo, + distortion heavy electric guitars, just sounds kind of...weird.

How would you know this?  They've yet to release any of ME3's music.

You are right.  I stumbled upon something I thought was ME3's music (a portion of it seemed very similar to the main theme of ME1) but upon further investigation it's just a clever fake.  So never mind that.

[Gibb_Shepard]

It was the music OP, not the visual style. And yes it was far superior to ME2's, and i hope it returns in ME3. Orchestral themes are becoming way too tedious, bring back some synth.

[The BS Police]

Guys, it was the 1980's... Not the 1970's.

I do agree though, the music needs to go back to that 1980's synth sound from the first game.

Modifié par The BS Police, 12 avril 2011 - 10:12 .

[TwistedComplex]

Lukertin wrote...

The biggest homage is the entire music score basically being based off the Bladerunner OST.  This was noticeable absent in ME2, and in ME3, it seems like they completely moved away from that direction, turning toward orchestral/chorus ala Halo, + distortion heavy electric guitars, just sounds kind of...weird.

70's sci-fi movie...look at Star Wars and the stuff prior to it.  Everything is very geometrically simple...triangles, rectangles, circles.  As sci-fi progressed things became sleek, curved, and elongated.

Again. There were several 70s sci-fi movies, all with different OSTs

Star wars didn't sound ANYTHING like Bladerunner and it was a 70s sci-fi. In fact it was THE 70s sci-fi

ME2s score was more in line with Star Wars, in which case you would be HAPPY. It's a 70s sci-fi and ME2s score sounds like it

So whats the problem?

[Jigero]

I like how everyone one is whining about the music, Yet majority of people who played ME1 don't even remember the music. Then you damn ME2 for haveing orchestral music, yet 1970's Sci Fi used Orchestral music constantly. Do you guys even know what the heck your talking about?

Also Mass Effect doesn't just borrow from the 1970's Sci Fi it borrows from sci fi in general. Heck the character Commander Shepard is practically a love letter to Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon

Modifié par Jigero, 12 avril 2011 - 11:29 .

[Jigero]

Lukertin wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

.....What?

What do you mean "clearly a homage"?

And what does a 70s sci-fi movie "look like"?

There were several, and they all looked different

The biggest homage is the entire music score basically being based off the Bladerunner OST.  This was noticeable absent in ME2, and in ME3, it seems like they completely moved away from that direction, turning toward orchestral/chorus ala Halo, + distortion heavy electric guitars, just sounds kind of...weird.

70's sci-fi movie...look at Star Wars and the stuff prior to it.  Everything is very geometrically simple...triangles, rectangles, circles.  As sci-fi progressed things became sleek, curved, and elongated.

Dear god you have no idea what you're talking about. Look at 2001 a space Odyessy came out in 1968 it's entire design was sleek ,curved and elongated.  and before that 1950's sci fi was epsically sleek, curved and elongated. On top of that Star Wars was heavily impsired by Buck Rogers. Which Lucas watched as a kid.

[MrDizazta]

What you no like 80's tech noir?

[Fixers0]

I Suspect it didn't appeal as much to mainstream gamers, and it isn't awesome enough for younger gamers.

[GodWood]

Jigero wrote...
Also Mass Effect doesn't just borrow from the 1970's Sci Fi it borrows from sci fi in general.

Yes ME does borrow from a wide variety of science-fiction however Bioware themselves stated that ME1 was primarily designed to emulate a late 70's early 80's sci-fi style/feel.

[lukex38]

i love ME1 and ME2, ME1 being my favourite, i loved the feel, atmosphere and the music of ME1 more than ME2 it just felt more speacial, but i do love where they are taking the look of games,

[Chewin]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

ME1 was young and optimistic. The future was a bright, wonderful place where technology made the impossible possible. There were people who lived out there amongst the starts that were just like us, and thought and acted like we did.

ME2 was dark, slick, and angsty. You were forced to work with the enemy, nobody believed or trusted you except your closest friends, everyone had issues, and the universe was ruled by sex, drugs, and violence.

ME3, if all goes well, will finally bring about maturity. You are aware of the galaxy's beauty and ugliness, and you know what is at stake and what you must sacrifice. No more innocence, no more time to bemoan petty personal struggles. In essence, Mass Effect has grown up.

(I'm not sure what I've been smoking, either.)

I just don't get AdmiralCheez. You can never disagree with her...

[Severyx]

I liked the '70s sci-fi style for a while.

Then I grew up.

Glad ME did as well. That gets old, fast. (Badum-PSH)

Modifié par Severyx, 12 avril 2011 - 02:02 .

[flesheatingbull]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There was no 70's feel to Mass Effect. Never. It's a theory spread by people who have no idea what 70's looked like and who don't understand what retro is.

yep. end this thread.

[starmine76]

flesheatingbull wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There was no 70's feel to Mass Effect. Never. It's a theory spread by people who have no idea what 70's looked like and who don't understand what retro is.

yep. end this thread.

What is it with people on this board always requesting for a thread to be ended just because they don't agree with it.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

It's there. At least for me. I don't comprehend the people that say it's gone. Really. ME2 is different, but not that different in that aspect.

[marshalleck]

starmine76 wrote...

flesheatingbull wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There was no 70's feel to Mass Effect. Never. It's a theory spread by people who have no idea what 70's looked like and who don't understand what retro is.

yep. end this thread.

What is it with people on this board always requesting for a thread to be ended just because they don't agree with it.

Fanboy logic.

"Mass Effect 1 wasn't retro and anyone who liked it more than ME2 is an idiot and their threads should be closed."

Modifié par marshalleck, 12 avril 2011 - 03:08 .

[ROD525]

flesheatingbull wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

There was no 70's feel to Mass Effect. Never. It's a theory spread by people who have no idea what 70's looked like and who don't understand what retro is.

yep. end this thread.

Casey Hudson himself said they were going for a late 70's early 80's feel, and Mass Effect 1 nailed it.