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Resist!! Defeat Hetero-Centrism!!!


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#1
Tae Jir

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Point coming up, but first:
(Steps off soap box, puts away last century placards)
Hi y'all! thanks for stopping in to my pet peeve.

Desire Demons.
For a gay inclusive company/game these Desire Demons are a major fail.
Oh yeah! you know where I'm going with this!

I'm happilly putting the moves on Anders and Fenris, hopeing no one gets too bent out of shape jealousy wise, 'cause I just don't want to commit right now, you know? and who could choose? who would want to? these are fine dudes, OK a bit...ummm...issue burdened...but mighty fine and I have high hopes for this Saturday night at the Hanged Man if that horny sailer gal just would stop spoiling the atmosphere with those oh so inappropriate comments!

Well, to make a long story only middling long: I get Desire Demons with tittie pasties!!??

Pleeeaaasseee!!

Would it be so difficult to have a trigger that trips when a male charachter chooses to romance one of the guys? And from then on have male Desire Demons or a mix at least for goddess' sake!

And if it IS difficult well, just never mind then.

That's funny, I thought I put that soap box away.
uh, thanks for listening.

peace

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Rockpopple

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I find myself suddenly reminded of having to see Dr. Manhattan's dongle during the Watchmen and giggling every time.

Yeah, I'll pass on the Male Desire Demon. I just wouldn't be able to stop laughing.

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They don't even have it set to change based on your gender, much less your specific romance choice. Desire demons are always feminine in appearance.

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You do know that desire demons can choose any form they wish? As a matter of fact, if you play the Darkspawn Chronicles, you find out a little something interesting with Wade and Herren. ;)

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Crossroads_Wanderer

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I'm playing a straight female Hawke who gets the same desire demons, so I don't think hetero-centrism is the right term. I don't think that desire demons are supposed to be all about lust, though, so I don't think it's really an issue. In fact, *spoiler* in the Fade, the only character who is given a sexual fantasy from the desire demon is Isabella, and that isn't even the primary temptation in that scenario *end spoiler*. I think desire demons are supposed to be more about giving characters whatever it is that they want. They probably find the form of a beautiful woman useful because women are less threatening than men and some people do find their forms sexually appealing.

Also, you really only see the desire demon in its natural form when you know that its a desire demon. I'm sure plenty of people deal with a desire demon in some other form, including male forms. So, if lust is the desire the demon is trying to cater to, it can pick an appropriate form.

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I'll give it a 5/10.

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Fruit of the Doom

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KSuri wrote...

You do know that desire demons can choose any form they wish? As a matter of fact, if you play the Darkspawn Chronicles, you find out a little something interesting with Wade and Herren. ;)


WAIT... WHAT?!

LINK NAO!

EDIT: Just watched it... HOLY ****!

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 12 avril 2011 - 02:44 .


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There would only be a tiny metal clasp to cover its dangly bits! Imagine that!

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But desire "spirits" are about more than just sexual desire (hard to imagine, considering their appearance).

They take the form they do because they want to. Why are you trying to force your own wishes on them? If you want hot man desire "spirits," then you'll have to make a bargain with one. Until then, they'll look how they want. Which happens to involve nipple tassels.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

KSuri wrote...

You do know that desire demons can choose any form they wish? As a matter of fact, if you play the Darkspawn Chronicles, you find out a little something interesting with Wade and Herren. ;)


WAIT... WHAT?!

LINK NAO!

EDIT: Just watched it... HOLY ****!


That isn't canon, BTW.  Wade's only a desire demon in that DLC.

ETA: Correction.  Herren.  Not Wade.

Modifié par didymos1120, 12 avril 2011 - 03:10 .


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Ok initial and joking reaction aside it's something that would be nice to have but not worth spending significant zots on.

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with all the recycling of NPC faces, maps, areas, etc....you REALLY think they would be bothered spending the time to do this for a minority? (gays being a minority..and gay males being just a portion of that minority)

be happy BioWare decided to make everyone in Thedas bisexual. you're whining got ya that. which can at least be argued to being worthwhile. This is just whiny nitpicking stupidity.

Modifié par Suron, 12 avril 2011 - 03:02 .


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Ok, what happens with Wade? I couldn't get through it! Reveal, reveal!

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Suron wrote...

with all the recycling of NPC faces, maps, areas, etc....you REALLY think they would be bothered spending the time to do this for a minority? (gays being a minority..and gay males being just a portion of that minority)

be happy BioWare decided to make everyone in Thedas bisexual. you're whining got ya that. which can at least be argued to being worthwhile. This is just whiny nitpicking stupidity.


Yes because female players (most of whom would be heterosexual) don't have any interest in male desire demons vs the female ones we already have. -_-  

That said. If we did get some I'd want some pants. Pants are very sexy. :lol:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 avril 2011 - 03:12 .


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didymos1120

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stobie wrote...

Ok, what happens with Wade? I couldn't get through it! Reveal, reveal!


During the Denerim Market sequence of Darkspawn Chronicles, you can attempt to go after Wade and Herren.  Herren will turn into a Desire Demon when they're cornered and teleport away with Wade:



Not canon though.  There's a dev post about it somewhere: Herren's only a demon in that alternate "Darkspawn win" timeline.

Modifié par didymos1120, 12 avril 2011 - 03:16 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

stobie wrote...

Ok, what happens with Wade? I couldn't get through it! Reveal, reveal!


During the Denerim Market sequence of Darkspawn Chronicles, you can attempt to go after Wade and Herren.  Herren will turn into a Desire Demon when they're cornered and teleport away with Wade:



Not canon though.  There's a dev post about it somewhere: Herren's only a demon in that alternate "Darkspawn win" timeline.


Ohh that is who it was I just saw some one run into a corner and a demon spawned wondered what happened.

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Some fans have already done concept art for male desire demons.

I fully approve of their inclusion in-game.

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Crossroads_Wanderer wrote...
I'm playing a straight female Hawke who gets the same desire demons, so I don't think hetero-centrism is the right term. I don't think that desire demons are supposed to be all about lust, though, so I don't think it's really an issue. In fact, *spoiler* in the Fade, the only character who is given a sexual fantasy from the desire demon is Isabella, and that isn't even the primary temptation in that scenario *end spoiler*. I think desire demons are supposed to be more about giving characters whatever it is that they want. They probably find the form of a beautiful woman useful because women are less threatening than men and some people do find their forms sexually appealing.

Also, you really only see the desire demon in its natural form when you know that its a desire demon. I'm sure plenty of people deal with a desire demon in some other form, including male forms. So, if lust is the desire the demon is trying to cater to, it can pick an appropriate form.


This is correct. Desire demons are about desire and want, not simply lust. They are not succubi.

I'm all for having a male form for the desire demons-- really they are creatures of illusion and can look however they wish-- but not having a male version of their model was certainly not borne of a desire to have them only appeal to one gender or orientation.

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 avril 2011 - 03:36 .


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KnightofPhoenix

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Maybe the male desire demon can look like this

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HIM. That guy creeps me out. I wouldn't mind if there were male desire demons in the next Dragon Age game. I think he should wear pants, though.

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Sorry, no can do.  The art guys only get paid to make one gender of a fictional race.  Just ask the qunari, turians, or krogan.

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I dunno, I'm all for the 'half dressed buff young man offering me all my desires in exchange for my measly soul', but. No wait, there is no but....

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Please stop trying to shove desire spirits into your narrow, nipple-tasseless box.

Rifneno wrote...

Sorry, no can do.  The art guys only get paid to make one gender of a fictional race.  Just ask the qunari, turians, or krogan.

And dwarves.

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Avilia wrote...

I dunno, I'm all for the 'half dressed buff young man offering me all my desires in exchange for my measly soul', but. No wait, there is no but....


So, you don't want a butt?

Maria Caliban wrote...

Please stop trying to shove desire spirits into your narrow, nipple-tasseless box.

Rifneno wrote...

Sorry, no can do.  The art guys only get paid to make one gender of a fictional race.  Just ask the qunari, turians, or krogan.

And dwarves.


There's a few female dorfs.  Not as many as males but they're there.

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Rifneno wrote...

Avilia wrote...

I dunno, I'm all for the 'half dressed buff young man offering me all my desires in exchange for my measly soul', but. No wait, there is no but....


So, you don't want a butt?


Hmm, you raise a good point.  Butts all 'round!