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[Augustei]

Will we ever see Vampirism in the Dragon Age Franchise, would you want it in there? In origins we experienced a sub-plot based around Werewolves, and Hawke was originally suggested to be a lycanthrope so it got me thinking, what about Vampires? Im not thinking the whole Twilight crap but traditional Dracula based Vampires i'm thinking would be cool. Would you like seeing Vampires in a future installement in the Dragon Age Franchise?

Thedas seems to have just gotten their hands on Gunpowder so i'm guessing they are in their equivilent of 13th century europe, 200 years off Vlad III (Dracula) but heck by their calender they are approaching their 1st Millenium so mirrored timelines aint a big deal =D

Anyways thoughts, opinions?

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 09:44 .

[Oneiropolos]

I don't see a way they could be done that wouldn't be "wha?" I mean, we sorta had Frankenmom briefly in this last game, and we see corpses all over. In the Brecilian Forest in Origins there were also hints of ghosts. I wouldn't say something like a vampire would be -impossible- in the world of Thedas.. though I would almost say the mage entropy and death siphon were kinda everything except the already dead bit.

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

Modifié par Oneiropolos, 12 avril 2011 - 09:51 .

[silver-crescent]

Honestly I think blood magic already has the vampirism angle covered. We don't really need "real" vampires.

[SexBomb]

If done artfully, I'm sure it could be a wonderful addition. Just look at games like Oblivion, and the Witcher. However, it seems a delicate situation that could go horribly, horribly wrong, horribly, horribly quickly.

[turian councilor Knockout]

Absolutely not, okay we have ogres, skeletons and everything but i don't see how vanpires would fit in this world, Bioware should keep the monsters they have maybe add a few more but no dramatic changes like vampires it will only ruin the franchise.

[Augustei]

Yeah it seems it could be a situation easy to stuff up, but has the potential to be awesome =D at least imo

[Mistress Tasharra]

Actually, it's mentioned in the Codex that Hunger demons who take living hosts become "Vampires", though I believe it's more akin to cannibalism than the "I will drain you of blood" type.

That said, I do think Malificar have the whole bloodlust thing already going for them with its own, unique angle. I'd rather see the depths of Blood Magic explored, personally.

[Augustei]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Absolutely not, okay we have ogres, skeletons and everything but i don't see how vanpires would fit in this world, Bioware should keep the monsters they have maybe add a few more but no dramatic changes like vampires it will only ruin the franchise.

The monsters they have added in 2 are vastly different from origins though and can be considered a dramatic change. Rock wraiths for example

[Curlain]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Actually, it's mentioned in the Codex that Hunger demons who take living hosts become "Vampires", though I believe it's more akin to cannibalism than the "I will drain you of blood" type.

That said, I do think Malificar have the whole bloodlust thing already going for them with its own, unique angle. I'd rather see the depths of Blood Magic explored, personally.

This basically, vampires did exist in Origins after a fashion, but they were people possessed by hunger demons (I think that chamberlain (or similar) you kill with those skeletons near to where those possessed suits of armour were in Redcliffe castle might have been one.  I assume they function similar to the darkspawn ghoul effect.

Of course, this doesn't mean this might not be reconned, but I think it's with blood mages that you'll get the closest to it atm

[Torax]

They already have blood magic where they cut people and then use the power of their blood. Why do you want them bite them to do so? Would it change it any further? Blood Magic can also be used to lengthen one's life per Avernus. Why should Bioware bother to go more campy on the subject? Blood Magic covers it already.

[EmperorSahlertz]

They would have to go with the more bestial form of vampires like the Strigoi Vampire clan in Warhammer Fantasy. Otherwise these forums would be flooded with "we need a vampire romance!!!" threads. Trust me. It would.

[Augustei]

Torax wrote...

They already have blood magic where they cut people and then use the power of their blood. Why do you want them bite them to do so? Would it change it any further? Blood Magic can also be used to lengthen one's life per Avernus. Why should Bioware bother to go more campy on the subject? Blood Magic covers it already.

yeah but Vampires can rejuvinate and maintain youth, can fly and morph into various animals and have super strength. Way more beyond Blood Mages =D Unless they go for the classic Nosferatu thing but I doubt that would work.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 10:12 .

[Noir_Skye]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Actually, it's mentioned in the Codex that Hunger demons who take living hosts become "Vampires", though I believe it's more akin to cannibalism than the "I will drain you of blood" type.

That said, I do think Malificar have the whole bloodlust thing already going for them with its own, unique angle. I'd rather see the depths of Blood Magic explored, personally.

I agree with Tasharra.   The game has only scratched the surface of how brutal Blood Magic can be.  Several spells now drain the blood from the mage or others.  We don't need blood sucking, neck biting vampires in DA.  That elf who escaped the circle and then killed his wife is a great example of the originality of what Thedas has without standard vampires running loose.  I think  biting her and draining her would have weaken that scene and not have been more horrifying than what we saw.

[turian councilor Knockout]

XxDeonxX wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Absolutely not, okay we have ogres, skeletons and everything but i don't see how vanpires would fit in this world, Bioware should keep the monsters they have maybe add a few more but no dramatic changes like vampires it will only ruin the franchise.

The monsters they have added in 2 are vastly different from origins though and can be considered a dramatic change. Rock wraiths for example

Yes, but it is said that they are made of very corrupted dwarves so it would make sense story and lore wise but i can not think of something that have vampirism involved, werewolves are one thing but vampires i don't know honestly.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 12 avril 2011 - 10:14 .

[Augustei]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

They would have to go with the more bestial form of vampires like the Strigoi Vampire clan in Warhammer Fantasy. Otherwise these forums would be flooded with "we need a vampire romance!!!" threads. Trust me. It would.

If thats the case then Mr Gaider can just come in, flip em off and tell em' "NO!!!!!!!!!" things will die down eventually

[JabbaDaHutt30]

 how about...

vampire elves!

[Torax]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Torax wrote...

They already have blood magic where they cut people and then use the power of their blood. Why do you want them bite them to do so? Would it change it any further? Blood Magic can also be used to lengthen one's life per Avernus. Why should Bioware bother to go more campy on the subject? Blood Magic covers it already.

yeah but Vampires can rejuvinate and maintain youth, can fly and morph into various animals and have super strength. Way more beyond Blood Mages =D Unless they go for the classic Nosferatu thing but I doubt that would work.

Or they could just stick with what they have so far. Instead of trying to cater to goth idiots who want to wear black and have blood dripping from their mouth.

[Augustei]

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

turian councilor Knockout wrote...

Absolutely not, okay we have ogres, skeletons and everything but i don't see how vanpires would fit in this world, Bioware should keep the monsters they have maybe add a few more but no dramatic changes like vampires it will only ruin the franchise.

The monsters they have added in 2 are vastly different from origins though and can be considered a dramatic change. Rock wraiths for example

Yes, but it is said that they are made of very corrupted dwarves so it would make sense story and lore wise but i can not think of something that have vampirism involved, werewolves are one thing but vampires i don't know honestly.

Im sure they can think of something, Werwolves are the result of the passing on of an effect from a incarnation of a strange demon spirit of the forest. Vampires could idk.. be made by powerful Maleficarum through a spell of making an incarnation of mass pools of blood, passing on their curse as it can spread to mortals like the werwolf one. The Tevinter Imperium sucessfully done this long ago and it was a failed experiment etc etc. Sounds cool to me =D

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 10:21 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

XxDeonxX wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

They would have to go with the more bestial form of vampires like the Strigoi Vampire clan in Warhammer Fantasy. Otherwise these forums would be flooded with "we need a vampire romance!!!" threads. Trust me. It would.

If thats the case then Mr Gaider can just come in, flip em off and tell em' "NO!!!!!!!!!" things will die down eventually

They have already multiple times said no to a Qunari mage companion. Those threads still pop-up now and again. With the sheer "squeee!" effect of vampires, the threads would never die out. Unless ofcourse you make the Vampires bestial and not all that attractive/seductive..

[KnightofPhoenix]

Spirit warriors who made a pact of blood with hunger demons. Retaining parts of their sanity and will in exchange for feeding the demon blood. Maybe that could be a way to introduce vampirism.

[Torax]

Pools of blood from slaves. They use the blood for their magic. Blood Magic. The same thing you've been seeing already. Having to bite the person is not even efficient. Gut them and then your'e done as a blood mage. You do realize how long it would take for a vampire to drain a body? It's slow. Cut them in half and it's a hell of a lot faster. Stop trying to be Goth and think it's cool. The World they made is perfectly fine without Vampires.

[Torax]

bah double post.

Modifié par Torax, 12 avril 2011 - 10:21 .

[Plaintiff]

Please no. I'm so ****ing sick of seeing ****ing vampires everywhere.

[Augustei]

Torax wrote...

Pools of blood from slaves. They use the blood for their magic. Blood Magic. The same thing you've been seeing already. Having to bite the person is not even efficient. Gut them and then your'e done as a blood mage. You do realize how long it would take for a vampire to drain a body? It's slow. Cut them in half and it's a hell of a lot faster. Stop trying to be Goth and think it's cool. The World they made is perfectly fine without Vampires.

Im not goth, I hate goths lol. Still classic dracula vampires are cool. Didn't you like Bram Stroker's Dracula with Gary Oldman? Or the classic 1930 one with bela lugosi or the Christopher Lee one? C'mon dont tell me you didn't like those movies or didn't like the novel?

[Mistress Tasharra]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Spirit warriors who made a pact of blood with hunger demons. Retaining parts of their sanity and will in exchange for feeding the demon blood. Maybe that could be a way to introduce vampirism.

I always thought Reavers were the ones who made pacts with Demons while Spirit Warriors made... 'deals' with the non-demonic spirits, such as Valor, Compasion, Faith, Justice (lawl).

At least that's how I interrupted it. That said, I'm sure there's been Spirit Warriors out there who've consorted with Demons, come to think of it.

Either way, the Chantry doesn't really see a difference.