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[KnightofPhoenix]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Spirit warriors who made a pact of blood with hunger demons. Retaining parts of their sanity and will in exchange for feeding the demon blood. Maybe that could be a way to introduce vampirism.

I always thought Reavers were the ones who made pacts with Demons while Spirit Warriors made... 'deals' with the non-demonic spirits, such as Valor, Compasion, Faith, Justice (lawl).

At least that's how I interrupted it. That said, I'm sure there's been Spirit Warriors out there who've consorted with Demons, come to think of it.

Either way, the Chantry doesn't really see a difference.

Reavers drink dragon blood I think.
But they are close to vampires anyways.

[Perles75]

I don't really feel the need for them

[Torax]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Torax wrote...

Pools of blood from slaves. They use the blood for their magic. Blood Magic. The same thing you've been seeing already. Having to bite the person is not even efficient. Gut them and then your'e done as a blood mage. You do realize how long it would take for a vampire to drain a body? It's slow. Cut them in half and it's a hell of a lot faster. Stop trying to be Goth and think it's cool. The World they made is perfectly fine without Vampires.

Im not goth, I hate goths lol. Still classic dracula vampires are cool. Didn't you like Bram Stroker's Dracula with Gary Oldman? Or the classic 1930 one with bela lugosi or the Christopher Lee one? C'mon dont tell me you didn't like those movies or didn't like the novel?

I liked the novel and the movies but Vampires have no ****ING place in Thedas. I had to give them enough slack on the whole Werewolves. I don't want vampires walking around in a world with Blood Magic already. Vampires make so sense in a world where they already can take your blood by slashing your belly. Biting them to get the same result in pointless. Move on.

[blothulfur]

They just need to make a good blood mage encounter, almost all of the classic vampiric bases are covered by a well presented blood mage. That lass in the blooming rose could have been developed so much more and shown us the true power of blood magic, hell they could have made the brothel into a hotel california kind of place.

[Mistress Tasharra]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Spirit warriors who made a pact of blood with hunger demons. Retaining parts of their sanity and will in exchange for feeding the demon blood. Maybe that could be a way to introduce vampirism.

I always thought Reavers were the ones who made pacts with Demons while Spirit Warriors made... 'deals' with the non-demonic spirits, such as Valor, Compasion, Faith, Justice (lawl).

At least that's how I interrupted it. That said, I'm sure there's been Spirit Warriors out there who've consorted with Demons, come to think of it.

Either way, the Chantry doesn't really see a difference.

Reavers drink dragon blood I think.
But they are close to vampires anyways.

This is true. You get the specilization from drinking the blood of a High Dragon. That said, the specilization itself says that it can be taught by Demons as well, so I guess that's where I got that connection from.

Either way your point is valid. Both Reavers and Blood Mages are close, hence why I'd love to blood magic explored more. Oh the possibilites.

That said, you all should realize there's nothing wrong with Vampires when they are done right. The problem is comes from when Vampires done wrong gains a bunch of media attention.

Bad **** happens then. =.=

[Danjaru]

XxDeonxX wrote...

yeah but Vampires can rejuvinate and maintain youth, can fly and morph into various animals and have super strength. Way more beyond Blood Mages =D Unless they go for the classic Nosferatu thing but I doubt that would work.

You just described Flemeth

But really. Vampires would fit in Dragon Age as little as it would fit in LotR.

Modifié par Danjaru, 12 avril 2011 - 10:40 .

[Augustei]

Danjaru wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

yeah but Vampires can rejuvinate and maintain youth, can fly and morph into various animals and have super strength. Way more beyond Blood Mages =D Unless they go for the classic Nosferatu thing but I doubt that would work.

You just described Flemeth

But really. Vampires would fit in Dragon Age as little as it would fit in LotR.

There are vampires in middle earth lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 10:44 .

[Augustei]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Spirit warriors who made a pact of blood with hunger demons. Retaining parts of their sanity and will in exchange for feeding the demon blood. Maybe that could be a way to introduce vampirism.

I always thought Reavers were the ones who made pacts with Demons while Spirit Warriors made... 'deals' with the non-demonic spirits, such as Valor, Compasion, Faith, Justice (lawl).

At least that's how I interrupted it. That said, I'm sure there's been Spirit Warriors out there who've consorted with Demons, come to think of it.

Either way, the Chantry doesn't really see a difference.

Reavers drink dragon blood I think.
But they are close to vampires anyways.

This is true. You get the specilization from drinking the blood of a High Dragon. That said, the specilization itself says that it can be taught by Demons as well, so I guess that's where I got that connection from.

Either way your point is valid. Both Reavers and Blood Mages are close, hence why I'd love to blood magic explored more. Oh the possibilites.

That said, you all should realize there's nothing wrong with Vampires when they are done right. The problem is comes from when Vampires done wrong gains a bunch of media attention.

Bad **** happens then. =.=

Yeah Like in Dracula 2000 and Twilight.. They sucked there

[Rifneno]

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

[Danjaru]

XxDeonxX wrote...

There are vampires in middle earth lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire

Those seem more like flying creatures than the Charming and Smooth Dracula.

big Vampire Bats would probably fit. But the whole Pale Human thing would probably be weird.

Unless they do it like Nosferatu, twisted creatures that barely resemble humans anymore, that would maybe be true.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that out there.

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 12 avril 2011 - 10:57 .

[Rifneno]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

[Augustei]

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

Yeah but he didn't help repell the invasion of an extremely powerful empire.. And his focus was soldiers not innocents

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 11:02 .

[LyndseyCousland]

*cough* Elder Scrolls *cough*

I'm fine without vampirism to be honest, unless they could truly make it their own.

[efrgfhnm_]

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

[Augustei]

LyndseyCousland wrote...

*cough* Elder Scrolls *cough*

I'm fine without vampirism to be honest, unless they could truly make it their own.

The Ash warriors are also borderline vampires so they did it twice! =D

Vampires are awesome in TES, they could be awesome in Thedas as well

[Rifneno]

XxDeonxX wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

Yeah but he didn't repell the invasion of an extremely powerful empire.

And that has what to do with the face his home thinks he's awesome?  We're talking about a guy who had one of his own servants torturously executed as a joke.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

That's doubtful. Vlad Tepes fought off the Turks; Osama Bin Laden started a war he lost and deliberately targeted civilians to provoke a response. Vlad Tepes is known as a historical figure of note in Romanian history; Osama Bin Laden is known to lead an extremist group. How many people from Islamic countries really see Osama as a national hero, instead of a terrorist who caused a needless war? 

I don't think many of them would want to be associated with him at all.

[Augustei]

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Rifneno wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

Yeah but he didn't repell the invasion of an extremely powerful empire.

And that has what to do with the face his home thinks he's awesome?  We're talking about a guy who had one of his own servants torturously executed as a joke.

Are you from the Mid-east? I find it a bit offensive that you think Islamic countries want to be associated, let alone hail Osama as a national hero.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Rifneno wrote...
And that has what to do with the face his home thinks he's awesome?  We're talking about a guy who had one of his own servants torturously executed as a joke.

They had it coming.

[Augustei]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

That's doubtful. Vlad Tepes fought off the Turks; Osama Bin Laden started a war he lost and deliberately targeted civilians to provoke a response. Vlad Tepes is known as a historical figure of note in Romanian history; Osama Bin Laden is known to lead an extremist group. How many people from Islamic countries really see Osama as a national hero, instead of a terrorist who caused a needless war? 

I don't think many of them would want to be associated with him at all.

This

Plus Osama doesn't have a bust lol

[efrgfhnm_]

Rifneno wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

Yeah but he didn't repell the invasion of an extremely powerful empire.

And that has what to do with the face his home thinks he's awesome?  We're talking about a guy who had one of his own servants torturously executed as a joke.

He allowed a country to keep its independence in the face of a huge threat, so of course he is going tobe seen as a hero
That doesn't make him a nice guy, but they were much more brutal times, and there have been loads of rulers who were much more sadistic then him

[efrgfhnm_]

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

So less of the goth human stuff, and more of them just being a monster?
I suppose that could work, I'm not gonna deny vampires rock if they are done right, but it would be quite hard to slide in the idea now

[JabbaDaHutt30]

XxDeonxX wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Vlad Tepes wasn't a pleasant fellow, but Elizabeth Bathory's acts were much more horrific and debated to be equally an inspiration for Stoker's Dracula. It's just Vlad had the cool name. I'd ALMOST argue vampires would be...so...not impressive in DA. It'd be like "Huh, you live off of blood and you were once dead? That's nice. Look, I need to go take care of the -real- problems now."

I don't know, tough call.  Both of them are so evil they make you hope that hell exists.  Bathory killed in much more horrible fashion (not to say Vlad wasn't a sadistic monster), but Vlad's body count was far higher.  Then again he was fighting a war, she was just in it for the giggles.

You do realize that Vlad Tepes is regarded as a national hero in his country of origin... ? Just wanted to throw that there.

So is Osama bin Laden.

That's doubtful. Vlad Tepes fought off the Turks; Osama Bin Laden started a war he lost and deliberately targeted civilians to provoke a response. Vlad Tepes is known as a historical figure of note in Romanian history; Osama Bin Laden is known to lead an extremist group. How many people from Islamic countries really see Osama as a national hero, instead of a terrorist who caused a needless war? 

I don't think many of them would want to be associated with him at all.

This

Plus Osama doesn't have a bust lol

For the record, I don't think Vlad was a great guy. But this is comparing a historical figure whose deeds have already passed from people's minds into history books, to a guy leading an extremist group who has probably caused a lot of problems for the mid-east in recent memory. Who was worse I don't mean to object to, how they are seen differently well... I don't know much about Osama, but I'd guess they're not seen in a similar fashion.

And I know I'm being off-topic so I'll just shut up now! 

Modifié par JabbaDaHutt30, 12 avril 2011 - 11:17 .