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[Augustei]

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

So less of the goth human stuff, and more of them just being a monster?
I suppose that could work, I'm not gonna deny vampires rock if they are done right, but it would be quite hard to slide in the idea now

Something to do with them being created by magic similiar to that Zathrian used and being guardians of Arlathan before its downfall would be cool, all knowledge being lost until recently. I mean Vartarrels just came back after 1000's of years out of the blue, Dragons came back from extinction they could introduce a new species like this.

or something more simple like, The Ancient Dwarves dug to far into the earth and discovered these monsterous and mysterious creates, that being what wiped out that thaig hawke was visiting

[Rifneno]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

For the record, I don't think Vlad was a great guy. But this is comparing a historical figure whose deeds have already passed from people's minds into history books, to a guy leading an extremist group who has probably caused a lot of problems for the mid-east. Who was worse I don't mean to object to, how they are seen differently well... I don't know much about Osama, but I'd guess they're not seen in a similar fashion.

Eh, it wasn't a well thought out comment on my part.  I do maintain, however, that Vlad the Impaler was a sadistic and brutal monster.

[Augustei]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

I'd be happy with some Vamps flying around.

Vampires could enter the story by being a secret society or some such, as a side quest or as a main quest where the protagonist deals with them rather than having the option to become one. Only problem would be the obvious Oblivion comparisons.

That concept has been around long before oblivion though, and Oblivion didn't really do anything to revolutionize vampires making them stand out in any particular way. It could be done by Bioware =D

[Curlain]

Hmm, you could have a form of blood mage lich, where a group of blood mages take the research the serial killer Quintin was doing and take it further in their quest for immortality and the secrets of life and death

[blothulfur]

To rule in the middle ages being a sadistic and brutal monster was a desired feature on your C.V. Still impaling twenty thousand does seem a little excessive, bet Mrs Tepes had been nagging him again.

"What's all that wood still doing in the courtyard Vlad, how many times have I told you to get rid of it".

[Augustei]

Curlain wrote...

Hmm, you could have a form of blood mage lich, where a group of blood mages take the research the serial killer Quintin was doing and take it further in their quest for immortality and the secrets of life and death

That'd be cool, something along those lines at least anyway. Maybe no Quintins research in particular =P

[Augustei]

blothulfur wrote...

To rule in the middle ages being a sadistic and brutal monster was a desired feature on your C.V. Still impaling twenty thousand does seem a little excessive, bet Mrs Tepes had been nagging him again.

"What's all that wood still doing in the courtyard Vlad, how many times have I told you to get rid of it".

Her commiting suicide is only park of Bram Strokers story isn't it? Or did that actually happen? lol when I picture it actually happen I for some reason picture a creepy scene of Vlad sitting in a chair drinking tea where across from him is his dead wife and him having a conversation for her and speaking on her behalf with a weird girly voice

Vlad: How was your day today honey?
His wife: ohh very good deary, how about you?

*Shudder*

[sonsonthebia07]

Plaintiff wrote...

Please no. I'm so ****ing sick of seeing ****ing vampires everywhere.

 ^ lol.

And no cat people, either. **** cat people.

[efrgfhnm_]

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

So less of the goth human stuff, and more of them just being a monster?
I suppose that could work, I'm not gonna deny vampires rock if they are done right, but it would be quite hard to slide in the idea now

Something to do with them being created by magic similiar to that Zathrian used and being guardians of Arlathan before its downfall would be cool, all knowledge being lost until recently. I mean Vartarrels just came back after 1000's of years out of the blue, Dragons came back from extinction they could introduce a new species like this.

or something more simple like, The Ancient Dwarves dug to far into the earth and discovered these monsterous and mysterious creates, that being what wiped out that thaig hawke was visiting

The ancient dwarves thing makes me think of the balrog in Lotr
I guess it would be quite cool with the elves thing, that they twisted themselves as some sort of final defence and they have been hiding for all this time.. Although if they infect people it would probably end up as a re run of the elves vs werewolves I would have thought

[Augustei]

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

So less of the goth human stuff, and more of them just being a monster?
I suppose that could work, I'm not gonna deny vampires rock if they are done right, but it would be quite hard to slide in the idea now

Something to do with them being created by magic similiar to that Zathrian used and being guardians of Arlathan before its downfall would be cool, all knowledge being lost until recently. I mean Vartarrels just came back after 1000's of years out of the blue, Dragons came back from extinction they could introduce a new species like this.

or something more simple like, The Ancient Dwarves dug to far into the earth and discovered these monsterous and mysterious creates, that being what wiped out that thaig hawke was visiting

The ancient dwarves thing makes me think of the balrog in Lotr
I guess it would be quite cool with the elves thing, that they twisted themselves as some sort of final defence and they have been hiding for all this time.. Although if they infect people it would probably end up as a re run of the elves vs werewolves I would have thought

They could be like the Striders / Varterral where they are used as a defence for elven-kind a a growing number of fanatics who want to reclaim their lost glory resort to this so it could be a human vs vampires thing

[blothulfur]

The "legend" of Vlads first wife commiting suicide Bram got spot on but he had a second wife as well.

[efrgfhnm_]

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

I have slowly grown to hate vampires after goths and Twilight, but I do admit there are some things like Dracula (the novel and the film with Gary Oldman) that are pretty cool. But seriously, I don't think there's any need or place for vampires in Thedas, we've already got werewolves and necromancy and everything like that, and blood magic basically covers the idea of gaining power from blood in a more unqiue and original way, it would be unnecesary to have some pale guys running around biting people now

Maybe make them like the thing Dracula turns into in the end of that Van Helsing movie. Giant bat like creatures resembling gargoyles

So less of the goth human stuff, and more of them just being a monster?
I suppose that could work, I'm not gonna deny vampires rock if they are done right, but it would be quite hard to slide in the idea now

Something to do with them being created by magic similiar to that Zathrian used and being guardians of Arlathan before its downfall would be cool, all knowledge being lost until recently. I mean Vartarrels just came back after 1000's of years out of the blue, Dragons came back from extinction they could introduce a new species like this.

or something more simple like, The Ancient Dwarves dug to far into the earth and discovered these monsterous and mysterious creates, that being what wiped out that thaig hawke was visiting

The ancient dwarves thing makes me think of the balrog in Lotr
I guess it would be quite cool with the elves thing, that they twisted themselves as some sort of final defence and they have been hiding for all this time.. Although if they infect people it would probably end up as a re run of the elves vs werewolves I would have thought

They could be like the Striders / Varterral where they are used as a defence for elven-kind a a growing number of fanatics who want to reclaim their lost glory resort to this so it could be a human vs vampires thing

That actually sounds like it would work
I suppose it could be like one of the secondary quests, you encounter them no matter what but you need to actively search them out to find and eradicate their recruiters or leaders

[turian councilor Knockout]

sonsonthebia07 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Please no. I'm so ****ing sick of seeing ****ing vampires everywhere.

 ^ lol.

And no cat people, either. **** cat people.

But, what about lizard people theyr'e not too bad 

[Emperor Muad-Dib]

XxDeonxX wrote...

blothulfur wrote...

To rule in the middle ages being a sadistic and brutal monster was a desired feature on your C.V. Still impaling twenty thousand does seem a little excessive, bet Mrs Tepes had been nagging him again.

"What's all that wood still doing in the courtyard Vlad, how many times have I told you to get rid of it".

Her commiting suicide is only park of Bram Strokers story isn't it? Or did that actually happen? lol when I picture it actually happen I for some reason picture a creepy scene of Vlad sitting in a chair drinking tea where across from him is his dead wife and him having a conversation for her and speaking on her behalf with a weird girly voice

Vlad: How was your day today honey?
His wife: ohh very good deary, how about you?

*Shudder*

The movie uses a fictionalized version of the events, and if memory serves Stoker's book itself leaves the event out entirely, and focuses MUCH less on the romance, and much more on Dracula as an evil mastermind.

Tepes' first wife did presumably commit suicide by throwing herself into a tributary of the Arges river, which ran alongside the Poenari fortress (which Vlad had the nobles rebuild by literally making them work themselves to death).

Academically, there seems to be no hard proof (such as letters discussing the event or the like), however local folk tradition holds that Tepes' first wife killed herself when the Turks began to surround Poenari and a local peasant (or alternatively, a turncoat member of the turkish forces who was somehow related to Tepes) warned the castle. She threw herself into the river from the fortress, claiming she'd rather have the fish eat her body than become a prisoner of the Ottomans. It was this wife who bore Tepes' first son Mihnea , who went on to rule Wallachia shortly after his father's death.

Tepes' Second wife was a relative of Hungarian King Matthias Corvinus, after his imprisonment. Her name was Ilona, and they had several rather unremarkable children.

Modifié par Emperor Muad-Dib, 12 avril 2011 - 05:30 .

[barryl89]

Well the original elves were supposedly immortal. The Tevinters buried the civilisation.

What if the Arlathan elves feasted on human blood to gain immortality? Thus when Tevinter rose, it buried the city AND the vampiric immortal elves. The elves who survive are just countryside elves but they were enslaved because of what the vampire elves did.

Maybe you are in a quest for another eluvian for Merrill or Flemeth and you stumble into Arlathan. Then you fight the vampires.

It would be an interesting twist to the rise of Tevinter, since they end up using blood to attain great power.

[Addai]

Really, why? Just because it's fantasy doesn't mean you need every fantasy trope ever used. Werewolves served a purpose in Fereldan mythology- the reason that they prize their dogs- but they're not a large feature in the world. Meanwhile as others have pointed out, you already have blood mages who drain the life force from others and can perpetuate their own lives unnaturally like Avernus. No need to get too campy with it.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Come to think of it. Thedas already got Vampires. It is people possessed by Hunger Demons, though they don't just drink blood.... So I guess that BioWare went with the more bestial vampire (yay).

[Mac100]

Vampires could exist as Templar weapons, kept under lock and key in a keeps dungeon only to be used against powerful blood mages.Not having any living blood of there own should make them immune to blood magic or i could be wrong.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Hawke was meant to be a lycanthrope?

[Augustei]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Hawke was meant to be a lycanthrope?

Yeah Matthew Goldman the art director says so in the first developer diary, Don't know if he was necessarily meant to though, I'm guessing it was more a suggested concept

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 12 avril 2011 - 05:49 .

[KyleOrdrum]

Dracula type vampire =Bloodmage/shapeshifter... sooo...my Morrigan is a vampire. The reason the vampire and werewolf tropes work in Elder Scrolls and wouldn't so well here (I thought nature of the beast did much better than I expected), is due to the nature of choice in those games that lets you do insanely stupid things because "ehhh...I felt like it."

[ReallyRue]

Blood Mages and Reavers already seem vampirey enough to me.

But vampires have been done to death so much recently that I think if I saw one in DA I'd just have to shake my head and sigh.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

if this was before that stupid movie then yes
but in this case no plz no
Twilight made vampire seems so emo emotional preppy "look at me im emo and im a vampire" very freaking annoying

WEREWOLVES FTW!!!!!!!

Modifié par GreyWarden36, 12 avril 2011 - 08:13 .

[Torax]

A shape shifting blood mage could do about all of a vampire's powers no problem. But there is no reason to need such a thing. It wouldn't even better the story.

Since it was brought up about the Elves being supposedly immortal a long time ago. The Elves believe they were once immortal. The Tevinter Imperium claimed that was never true. I think what is more likely is they could have had much longer lives in the olden days. Likely because of their ties to magic. Not Blood Magic though. If the Elves had known Blood Magic and used it to keep themselves long lived then the Magisters wouldn't have needed the Old Gods to teach them much of anything.