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[Syrellaris]

an awsome game, all the way true, but shamefully the real final decision is not there shame on you bioware.

Seriously, were is the decision to dump  your entire war party, betray every army you recruited and let ferelden swallowed by the blight? The decision to either side with the arch demon or become the archdemon itself?

Were is my ultimate evil ending? i kinda feel sad.

[Haasth]

Well... You could... get yourself killed and pretend the Darkspawn dragged you underground?

But yes. I doubt you, as a human, elf or dwarf, would like to become a mindless Darkspawn.

[Appolo90]

Evil endings make me a sad panda



Especially since the characters were so convincing.

[Fudzie]

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

[Mage Dan]

Fudzie wrote...

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

Power.

[jimmyw404]

Mage Dan wrote...

Fudzie wrote...

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

Power.

The arch demon does not share power.
http://upload.wikime...ndalf600ppx.jpg

Modifié par jimmyw404, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:43 .

[Jacks-Up]

Syrellaris wrote...

an awsome game, all the way true, but shamefully the real final decision is not there shame on you bioware.

Seriously, were is the decision to dump  your entire war party, betray every army you recruited and let ferelden swallowed by the blight? The decision to either side with the arch demon or become the archdemon itself?

Were is my ultimate evil ending? i kinda feel sad.

I agree with this I felt cheated that I never got my due for being Evil.

I was hoping for an ending like TOB or Warcraft 3 the Frozen Throne

Instead all I got was to make some demon baby God thing that got the power.  F that I wanted it.


IMO the best Ever ending was Frozen Throne

Modifié par Jacks-Up, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:48 .

[Jacks-Up]

jimmyw404 wrote...

Mage Dan wrote...

Fudzie wrote...

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

Power.

The arch demon does not share power.
http://upload.wikime...ndalf600ppx.jpg

No sharing needed just take it from him.

[RunCDFirst]

Sigh.



'You' would not survive being possessed by an archdemon. People don't survive being possessed by mere rage demons.



But you're right, there is not Chaotic Stupid ending. BioWare! Why can't I completely and irrevocably act in a manner that is neither logical nor purposeful! Why can't I have a Darkspawn Origin?!?!

[ricecows]

Fudzie wrote...

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

The Warden gets emotional after Morrigan breaks up with him, decides he want to bring the world his pain.

[Syrellaris]

Fudzie wrote...

Here's the real question: what could possibly give your character the motivation to do such a thing?

Power, pure power.

In my opinion, there should be an option of being tempted by the archdemon itself, several options should apply, one of them being that you can kill the archdemon and take its essance as you did witht he tainted blood. In doing so, you yourself become a new archdemon. (the argument of surviving it would be moot, as you have proven yourself to slay nearly all demons with ease and even carry the tainted blood in you that makes Darkspawn, if you would not survive being a archdemon, you would simply not have survived the blood drinking ritual at ostagar.

At the early part of my life as a dalish elf, i made clear i did not wanted this job as a grey warden, instead i was told i would not survive without it and thus forced. As so, I got forced in saving ferelden. The conversations with certain characters during my travels made me realise i want power, pure power. I decided to tag along and do there bidding, while my plan unfolds itself in the background, specially when talking to flemeth.

Eitherway, this option should simply be avaible, or atleast something similar to cater to us Chaotic evil characters.

[RunCDFirst]

Syrellaris wrote...
In my opinion, there should be an option of being tempted by the archdemon itself, several options should apply, one of them being that you can kill the archdemon and take its essance as you did witht he tainted blood. In doing so, you yourself become a new archdemon. (the argument of surviving it would be moot, as you have proven yourself to slay nearly all demons with ease and even carry the tainted blood in you that makes Darkspawn, if you would not survive being a archdemon, you would simply not have survived the blood drinking ritual at ostagar.

I believe, by the magical properties of the Joining, that all Grey Wardens are incapable of housing the Archdemon. If the power passes into them, they die whether one desires otherwise or not. The only apparent way to obtain the Archdemon power is to have a child born with it.

[GmanFresh]

hmmm your the good guy no matter what. like shepard. sure you can be a hardass but your still saving the world.

[Syrellaris]

GmanFresh wrote...

hmmm your the good guy no matter what. like shepard. sure you can be a hardass but your still saving the world.

Exactly and thats the whole problem. I am missing the option at the end to betray everyone and let the world succumb to the blight.

[Taleroth]

RunCDFirst wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...
In my opinion, there should be an option of being tempted by the archdemon itself, several options should apply, one of them being that you can kill the archdemon and take its essance as you did witht he tainted blood. In doing so, you yourself become a new archdemon. (the argument of surviving it would be moot, as you have proven yourself to slay nearly all demons with ease and even carry the tainted blood in you that makes Darkspawn, if you would not survive being a archdemon, you would simply not have survived the blood drinking ritual at ostagar.

I believe, by the magical properties of the Joining, that all Grey Wardens are incapable of housing the Archdemon. If the power passes into them, they die whether one desires otherwise or not. The only apparent way to obtain the Archdemon power is to have a child born with it.

The joining makes them a target for the Archdemon.  They die by virture of being human.  Child is an exception, you can presume because at such an early stage it does not have a human soul yet.  But that's a debate for another thread.

[Syrellaris]

not to mention the player during the blood drinking ritual that makes a grey warden, drinks not only darkspawn blood, but also a drop of the archdemons blood. As told by the grey warden in arl deanoms house, after rescueing him from arl howe's dungeon..

[Eshaye]

Riorden makes it clear that because Grey Wardens are already tainted by the blood the archdemon's soul trying to possess one will be destroyed along with the warden's own soul. IF the person to slay the archdemon is a normal humanoid then it is possible for the archdemon to take possession of that body and become an archdemon on two legs, which looks to be the archdemon's ultimate goal.

[AtreiyaN7]

Well, I don't think the Archdemon is the power-sharing type. It seems to be more like the kill anything smaller than it is type of demon.

[sugasugaki]

I agree that there should've been a really evil option. The game for all its "dark" and "grittiness" pretty much forces you to be a hero anyways.



As for why letting the world succumb to the blight, there can be plenty of reasons.

1) Hedonism: I don't care that the world is going to end, I'm going to have fun and profit off people's misery while it lasts.

2) Bitterness: I didn't sign up for a taint that only gives me 30 years to live, screw the Grey Wardens.

[Syrellaris]

Eshaye wrote...

Riorden makes it clear that because Grey Wardens are already tainted by the blood the archdemon's soul trying to possess one will be destroyed along with the warden's own soul. IF the person to slay the archdemon is a normal humanoid then it is possible for the archdemon to take possession of that body and become an archdemon on two legs, which looks to be the archdemon's ultimate goal.

yes but that is only when it forces it upon you, What if you can become one by taking in its blood like you did with the tainted darkspawn. First you kill it, then drink whatever remains and thus gaining incredible powers and could control the darkspawn.

it would be the most evil option, which this game lacks. Like others already said, this game is all about choice, yet it forces you to be the good guy in the end. Not my thing.

[KalosCast]

Syrellaris wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

Riorden makes it clear that because Grey Wardens are already tainted by the blood the archdemon's soul trying to possess one will be destroyed along with the warden's own soul. IF the person to slay the archdemon is a normal humanoid then it is possible for the archdemon to take possession of that body and become an archdemon on two legs, which looks to be the archdemon's ultimate goal.

yes but that is only when it forces it upon you, What if you can become one by taking in its blood like you did with the tainted darkspawn. First you kill it, then drink whatever remains and thus gaining incredible powers and could control the darkspawn.

it would be the most evil option, which this game lacks. Like others already said, this game is all about choice, yet it forces you to be the good guy in the end. Not my thing.

Well, except for the part where the Archdemon's power is destroyed.. you know.. BY YOU KILLING IT. Its power goes into a Grey Warden/Godbaby's sould and is DESTROYED. There is no more power. Pay attention to the game you're playing some time, hun.

There's also no choice to challenge the Archdemon to a poetry slam either... because it would be retarded. WAHH IT'S NOT A FREE SYSTEM.

The Darkspawn's goal is to kill -everything- they give you the choice to be evil, not a moron.

[Jacks-Up]

2) Bitterness: I didn't sign up for a taint that only gives me 30 years to live, screw the Grey Wardens.

The path I would of took.

[Syrellaris]

KalosCast wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

Riorden makes it clear that because Grey Wardens are already tainted by the blood the archdemon's soul trying to possess one will be destroyed along with the warden's own soul. IF the person to slay the archdemon is a normal humanoid then it is possible for the archdemon to take possession of that body and become an archdemon on two legs, which looks to be the archdemon's ultimate goal.

yes but that is only when it forces it upon you, What if you can become one by taking in its blood like you did with the tainted darkspawn. First you kill it, then drink whatever remains and thus gaining incredible powers and could control the darkspawn.

it would be the most evil option, which this game lacks. Like others already said, this game is all about choice, yet it forces you to be the good guy in the end. Not my thing.

Well, except for the part where the Archdemon's power is destroyed.. you know.. BY YOU KILLING IT. Its power goes into a Grey Warden/Godbaby's sould and is DESTROYED. There is no more power. Pay attention to the game you're playing some time, hun.

There's also no choice to challenge the Archdemon to a poetry slam either... because it would be retarded. WAHH IT'S NOT A FREE SYSTEM.

The Darkspawn's goal is to kill -everything- they give you the choice to be evil, not a moron.

Actually, that would be one of my goals as a chaotic evil person.

as for the rest of the game, the evil choices were kind of pathetic. None of them made you feel evil at all. In fact in some of them, no matter what you picked, you were quickly set good again. You pick, what would be a evil answer and the npc tells you, nope sorry cant do that. Not a single persuade or intimidate offer there either, just a nope sorry. Redcliff would be a good example of this.

This game, even though its dark and still a great game, it lacks real evil but has plenty of good and neutral.

Modifié par Syrellaris, 19 novembre 2009 - 02:29 .

[Reiella]

Syrellaris wrote...

an awsome game, all the way true, but shamefully the real final decision is not there shame on you bioware.

Seriously, were is the decision to dump  your entire war party, betray every army you recruited and let ferelden swallowed by the blight? The decision to either side with the arch demon or become the archdemon itself?

Were is my ultimate evil ending? i kinda feel sad.

It's right next to the have hot cyborg on cyborg action with Saren option.  Surprised you don't see it, stands out alot.

[FFLB]

Why would the essence of the Archdemon even want a human/dwarven/elven body? It's already got the body of a DRAGON GOD. Compared to a little humanoid form with no wings, that's like taking a couple thousand steps backwards.