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[totertot]

So I know everyone is tired of hearing about how great most women think Alistair is. Allow me to relate my experiences in maybe a slightly different way so that I get flamed for an entirely different reason.
I really love this game. I loved it before I started romancing Alistair. I played a female noble rogue, so I did Zevran's and what's-her-name's romances first. I became truly obsessed with this game when Alistair fell in love with my PC. We all know how charming, funny, and sweet some people find him. The thing is, I find myself blushing furiously and getting fluttery when he talks to my PC. Am I a little in love with a video game character?
Let me say now that I am a happily married grown up lady. I realize this is a fictional persona, and I even looked up the guy that does the voice on IMDB and he looks nothing like Alistair. I don't even find him attractive. So what's my problem? I feel like a total loser, thinking about a video game guy while I'm not playing the game.
I suppose I got the best ending on my first playthrough: made Alistair king and myself queen, did the ritual, got the charming little "I can't wait to be alone with you" line at the end. *sigh*
Then, because I'm a total stalker, I have been reloading from Landsmeet to see what happens when you go through that part differently. He dumps you if you make him king without you? "I love you so much, but we have to end it"?! Seriously. I kept picking "I won't accept this, Alistair", but does he ever change his mind? I have yet to beat the game so he sacrifices himself, but it makes me feel ridiculously gooey when you tell him you love him before you head into Denerim at the endgame and he says he loves the PC back, always.
How do I get over Alistair? I'm considering starting a new game with a male PC. But he'll still be so charming! BTW, is there any way to be made queen if you play a female Dalish rogue or warrior? I think the guide says there is a harder persuade check- can anyone confirm this? Otherwise I will start over again with another human...
So Bioware has finally made the perfect RPG. I think all the characters, except maybe Sten, are extremely realistic and you get very very involved emotionally. It's not just Alistair. I wanted everyone in my party to be happy. Especially Shale! I would love to see some of these characters back in the sequel. but I feel like that isn't going to happen. Everyone goes their own ways at the end, and it seems final, even when it says that we haven't seen the last of the hero of Ferelden. I feel like for a sequel to have Alistair or Wynne or Zevran, it would have to take place very soon after this game. Especially since Grey Wardens don't live long anyway.
Pardon my rambling. I am really obsessed with this game. My husband is tired of hearing about it. It's my new favorite game evar, and this is coming from a die-hard Final Fantasy fan. Please help me get over Alistair, he's so damn cheeky and charming! Gah!

[Godzilla vs Xenu]

AGAIN - SPOLIERS
Wonderful rambling, if that's what it is. : ) I can fully relate. I had a similar experience with Leliana - wound up becoming unexpectedly charmed by her and was floored when the "choice" between her and Morrigan thing happened during the game. Then at the final battle I decided not to bring her because I wrongly assumed I would see her again. I wound up pursuing the sacrifice choice because I stupidly had this fantasy that Morrigan would swoop in and save the day (why did I think she was going to pull a Han Solo, lol - I have no idea) or something. Foolish me. I felt unbelievably lonely at the close of the game - it really hurt to not be able to talk to any of my party again and to never have any dialogue with Leliana about the future we had talked about together. I really was not expecting to become so emotionally involved in the game, but by the end when the party lines up to say their last words before the battle I actually cried. I was so upset when my dog gave a sad whine to my comment about it being too dangerous for him to come with me that I had load a previous save and get the happy bark response or I couldn't continue. For the playthrough I did, Allistar wound up being more of a pain in the ass than anything at the end (I didn't want to take him with me and I hated that he insisted on killing Loghaine - I almost let him leave but I suspected if I did my end options would become fewer). But in my second playthrough I plan to max his approval out as he and Zevran are the only two I haven't slept with. A fully agree with you about the game - without a doubt it affected me emotionally far more than any game I have played to date, and that is a credit to the exceptional writing, voice acting and game design. It really is something of a masterpiece.

Modifié par Godzilla vs Xenu, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:34 .

[jimmyw404]

I'd probably beat my girlfriend if I every found out she made a post like this.



No offense.

[LdyShayna]

totertot wrote...

How do I get over Alistair?

I'm afraid I can't help ya with this one. 

 

BTW, is there any way to be made queen if you play a female Dalish rogue or warrior? I think the guide says there is a harder persuade check- can anyone confirm this? Otherwise I will start over again with another human...

No, but you can become his secret mistress if you are harsh during the Goldanna  (sp?) side quest, causing him to be a bit more cynical.

[Patriciachr34]

You are not Alone! I too am a happily married lady (12 years and counting) and I'm absolutely besotted with Alistair. I finally got the happy ending (me queen and him king) on my second play though. I think he has most of the qualities a lot of us ladies look for in a man. He's boyishly charming, handsome, and absolutely attentive. I'm not sure how to help you get over him. I've found a vigorous work out helps. You should see how nice my abs look after two weeks playing the game! Also, initiating a little romance with the real life hubby seems to work.

[Laurelinde]

I know just how you feel! My advice is to not really try, just to wait it out - I expect it is like any sort of silly, 'unattainable' crush (say, on a movie star) and in a few weeks you'll have forgotten about it for the most part and moved on with your life. But I know what you mean, I was literally giddy and giggly when he gave me the rose, and I am far too old and married to still be getting giddy and giggly, good grief! I thought Zevran was going to be the romance I picked before I started playing, but Alistair just blindsided me.



Alternatively, come join a bunch of us at http://community.liv...wooping_is_bad/ and bask in the glow of our reflected mutual crazy.

[GmanFresh]

i think its the adventure. sif you travel the world go through hell and back you are gonna be closer to the people you started the adventure with. that being allsitar

[RunCDFirst]

jimmyw404 wrote...

I'd probably beat my girlfriend if I every found out she made a post like this.

No offense.

Probably why your girlfriend would make a post like this .

Just sayin'.

[LeandraNyx]

I completely relate to your post. I feel like I could've written it! I'm also a happily married woman, but also totally crushing over this video game character... which makes me feel silly but also giddy. I'm probably driving my husband crazy as well; I have to hold myself back from talking about yet another cute thing Alistair said or whatnot. And despite all of his awesomeness it seems impossible to romance him without tragedy or heartbreak of some sort -- though I'm not sure if that makes it worse, or better. More interesting, anyhow, as it adds a more complex emotional component -- I was pretty torn up when Alistair died to kill the archdemon (and protect me from dying). My husband is playing the game too but he has only just finished rallying his allies, so I can't even discuss any of those story points with him because it would spoil things. Thank goodness there are these forums to satisfy my DA:O obsession and find support from other ladies also suffering from post-traumatic-Alistair-syndrome!

[OneBadAssMother]

My wife hated his guts when he... *spoiler*



... Dumped her city elf rogue after making him King. She was going "Why can't he eventually over time elevate her class and station and that of the elves as King?"



To be honest I'm actually glad she chose Alistair though, back in Jade Empire and Mass Effect, she kept choosing the ladies and I secretly wondered if my wife was actually bi. Heh

Anyways I doubt there is any room for jealousy, these are media characters, same thing with celebrities, human beings will always have their secret crushes.

[Cammy2709]

GmanFresh wrote...

i think its the adventure. sif you travel the world go through hell and back you are gonna be closer to the people you started the adventure with. that being allsitar

That is actually a really good point there. I think that's the case with many people. Seeing as most of the time they are undoubtably more interested in either Alistair ( for the gals), and Morrigan ( for the guys) because they have been there from the start. Begging pardon that this is not always the case but it seems that way so far.
As for the OP I would love to say the same thing about Morrigan's character but sadly  I can't because she is a cynical megalomaniac witch who has a penchant for betrayal.
At first I was trying to feel sympathy for her but now I just see that It aint gonna happen. After having romanced Leliana in another play-through her romance seems so much more real, so to speak.

Anyways, as an answer to the original qustion, just simply don't. Don't get over him. Video-games should always be like this, causing emotions and feeling for characters even though they aren't real. We pay for entertainment after all. Films, books, music etc. all stir up the ol' heartstrings no reason why a game shouldn't. And I realise I probably sound like a total-panzy here but in all fairness It's the truth. It just shows you how well this game was made.

[AtreiyaN7]

Ooooh, wait - it's the guy from Crossing Jordan - no WONDER he sounded vaguely familiar. My mom loved that show. Anyhow, yes, pathetically I'm still not over Alistair yet, even though I have a significant other out-of-state atm (he visited earlier this year, but it ain't easy). I must admit that I replay certain, umm, scenes repeatedly (and I don't necessarily mean the tent scene ). Yes, I know how pathetic that is. Hmm, now that I've heard about the threesome thing & staying on as Alistair's mistress, I must admit that that's piqued my interest despite having done massive work to get to the happy ending. *hunts down that save in Denerim...* Ahem, yeah, I guess it'll wear off...eventually...I hope.

[LeandraNyx]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...
 I must admit that I replay certain, umm, scenes repeatedly (and I don't necessarily mean the tent scene ). Yes, I know how pathetic that is. .

Haha, you are not alone.  I actually have various save games at different points in the relationship so that I could go through and try all the different conversation options even on mundane conversations.  :-D  Not picking the mean choices, obviously, but there are soooo many different amusing things he'll say depending on which conversation options you pick.  If you're pathetic then I'm pathetic too, lol...

Modifié par LeandraNyx, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:36 .

[taffetta]

Well I guess I'm glad in a 'shared misery' kind of way that I'm not the only one going through hell over Alastair endings.

/Off the chest on:

I never expected a happy ending, there was enough foreshadowing that I was expecting one or both of us to die. I knew there would be problems because of the succession thing - if you make the choice for a bloodline (choosing Alaistair over Anora) then it figures that being unable to procreate is going to be a problem.

What I was not expecting was for the bastard to dump me like a hot potato in a room full of people 2 minutes before the final 3 hour battle. Way to motivate your troops. I was beyond furious - he couldn't wait 3 hours to see if   I was dead???? First time I played through I told him he was an ass and didn't speak to him again and didn't include him in the group and I played to the end screaming obscenities at the screen and then he had the nerve to whisper he would miss me over my tomb. When my brother appeared I kept screaming - kill him for me!!!

Then I spent a couple of hours having Wynne 'cone of cold' him in earlier battles and let mobs shatter his ass while I made the rest of the party stand round and look at trees.

Finally I decided I to suck it up and tell him he would be a good king and I understood - he stops loving me and is 100 friendly instead and says stuff like 'it is an honour to fight beside me!!! Anyone who has ever been dumped knows how this 'lets be friends' cr*p feels. More cone of colding with a few blizzards and infernos thrown in.

I tried choosing Anora even though it felt wrong to put a scheming power-mad bitca on the throne but it seems to be bugged and Alaistair still thinks he is king.

I do actually have the option as a human noble persuadey type to pick the 'and I will be queen' thing but I just don't think I would, its too selfish and anyway now I hate him sooooo much I just want to stick a toy golem up his er... nose.

So although I'm not looking for a happy ending I can't even find an unhappy one that doesn't make me want to spit.

/off the chest off

Maybe with time and therapy I will get over it but for now I never want to play this game again despite it's awesomeness.

[veryalien]

Allister isn't real. He's made up.

[simpatikool]

I think its great that some of you ladies like Alistair! I had no idea.



I think its cute!

[Xaila]

I'm sort of glad I'm not alone in post-Alistair dumping syndrome. Hell, I'm not even an overly romantic person and it almost stung me as much initially as my last real-life breakup.



I kinda sulked about it and avoided the game for a few days. Then I reloaded a save before Landsmeet and have been chilling with Loghain. I wish I could romance him a little. Nothing like getting revenge by fraternizing with the enemy!

[Sable Rhapsody]

I like the fact that you get to see Alistair at his best and his worst. He can be a real hypocrite about the duty and honor thing--he dumps your behind if you make him king for his duty to the throne, then proceeds to throw himself at a giant dragon with no regard for the consequences unless you keep his royal butt locked up at camp. He also throws a hissy fit of epic proportions over Loghain no matter how good your reasons are for sparing him and runs off before the final battle when he's one of the, ya know, three remaining Grey Wardens. Very honorable, Alistair.



Alistair is a fascinating character because he's realistic and human, warts and all. Anora's line about Maric's boys being cute, but not very bright definitely applies He's sweet and adorable and hilarious, but also insecure and easily manipulated. Yay for him.

[Mezzidriel]

Can't help you get over Alistair, I'm in the same boat. Cheers, sister!

[Forumtroll]

OneBadAssMother wrote...

My wife hated his guts when he... *spoiler*

... Dumped her city elf rogue after making him King. She was going "Why can't he eventually over time elevate her class and station and that of the elves as King?"

To be honest I'm actually glad she chose Alistair though, back in Jade Empire and Mass Effect, she kept choosing the ladies and I secretly wondered if my wife was actually bi. Heh
Anyways I doubt there is any room for jealousy, these are media characters, same thing with celebrities, human beings will always have their secret crushes.

If you wife ever runs off in search of a legendary artifact with most of your family, then you can start worrying.

[Creston918]

It looks like David Gaider has again written a male character that all the ladies swoon over. Good job, David!

[andybuiadh]

Yes. I have the exact same thing with Leliana. I even sent a message to her voice actress to congratulate her on doing a good job.

[Maria Caliban]

andybuiadh wrote...

Yes. I have the exact same thing with Leliana. I even sent a message to her voice actress to congratulate her on doing a good job.

Only Leliana doesn't dump your ass so she can [snuggle]  the queen.

[Ghrelt]

First of all, I agree with the Alistair love. When Duncan sent my PC to find him, I had this mental image of a man in his seventies, with a long beard and grey hair. When she found him, it was love at first sight.

But I got my perfect ending. I backed the queen from before the landsmeet. She wanted it, Alistair didn't. End of story. Told Morrigan what she could do with herself, cause Alistair would rather sleep with Shale than that *expletives deleted*! When it came down to the dragon slaying, my PC told him she wouldn't let him sacrifice himself. He responded with, "I'm sorry. Did you think you had a choice in the matter?" and with an adorable half-grin, ran off and sacrificed himself. I got weepy. It was very sad, but the ending felt right. I hereby gladly join the ranks of patheticness. I am glad to be in such good company.