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[MajesticJazz]

I always found Tali annoying in ME1 as everytime you talked to her it was Quarians this, Quarians that, my Pilgrimage this......and so on.

Then it really irked me how Bioware brought her back in ME1 (And Garrus) simply because of Fanservice.

I mean think about it. Isn't it a bit too convenient that the FIRST potential squadmate besides Jacob/Miranda we encounter IS Tali? Isn't it a bit too convenient that the first ME1 squad member that appears in ME2 IS Tali?

Then there is the Tali romance. I don't mind Tali being a character that can be romanced. What irks me is how it appears that Bioware gave special treatment to the Tali romance while all the other ME2 romances including Garrus seemed like last minute add ons. It seems like you get more dialog in the Tali romance compared to the Jack and Miranda romance.

Again, Fan Service.

[Pwnisher]

I didn't really believe that image when I saw it. Besides that, I to really care for Tali that much, especially when I did my Cerberus playthrough and killed off all of the aliens on my crew with my shepard.

[Rurik_Niall]

MajesticJazz wrote...

I always found Tali annoying in ME1 as everytime you talked to her it was Quarians this, Quarians that, my Pilgrimage this......and so on.

Then it really irked me how Bioware brought her back in ME1 (And Garrus) simply because of Fanservice.

I mean think about it. Isn't it a bit too convenient that the FIRST potential squadmate besides Jacob/Miranda we encounter IS Tali? Isn't it a bit too convenient that the first ME1 squad member that appears in ME2 IS Tali?

Then there is the Tali romance. I don't mind Tali being a character that can be romanced. What irks me is how it appears that Bioware gave special treatment to the Tali romance while all the other ME2 romances including Garrus seemed like last minute add ons. It seems like you get more dialog in the Tali romance compared to the Jack and Miranda romance.

Again, Fan Service.

I disagree, this is one of the reasons I like Bioware, they actually pay attention to us. "You guys love Minsc and Imoen huh? Alright, sure, we'll bring them back." "You want Tali and Garrus? We can do that."

[Kandid001]

MajesticJazz wrote...

It seems like you get more dialog in the Tali romance compared to the Jack and Miranda romance.

Again, Fan Service.

She's a fragile Quarian who can suffer fatal diseases from the very presence of a human being. Most of the "extra romance dialogue" is about her predicament.

Meanwhile Miri literally "built" Shep, and was specifically instructed to watch him and send reports, leading into some sort of Nightingale syndrome I guess. And Jack... Jack is Jack.

[The Fan]

 I never fully understood these "mancing" arguements. Its pathetic. 

[The Fan]

 Now this is turning into a gathering place for Tali haters. 

[JKoopman]

If it were to be confirmed that Tali wasn't going to have a significant presence as a squadmate/LI in ME3, I wouldn't even buy it. That's all I'll say. No Tali = no sale.

[Maj.Pain007]

Hopefully Quarians are pretty fugly underneath the mask.

[Kasai666]

Sylvianus wrote...

People said that about Leliana and Zevran in Dragon Age as well. /images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

Mass effect's team has never allowed such inconsistencies. A dead character is a dead character . Thank for the love of god. Because we are stupid but not so much I hope.

If Tali died in M2, she will be dead in M3, she will not return.

Leliana, if you killed her in DAo, returns no matter what in DA2. David Gaider claims there some mysterious reason, but it will be very difficult to swallow for me because my warden cut Leliana's head, he'll have to explain how she was able to pick up her head with the rest of the body.

For Zevran it was a bug, normally if you killed him, he doesn't return.

I have only one thing to say about this: Sheppard died. He came back. That is all.

[Mylene]

^^^so the whole suicide mission is meaningless?

[Sylvianus]

Mass Effect is science fiction. It is capable of making clones, one is able to indoctrinate, to make many things, but not to revive someone from mysterious reaper's material ? Are you serious ?

Otherwise you do not understand the problem. David Gaider decided simply to ignore the player's decision because he wanted and that it could be used for other stories. This is not an issue prepared scenario, consistency between the sequel. It's not follows a plotlines.

He did the same with Anders. And the fact that he says he is ready to start again if necessary, makes me want to vomit.

Tell me what character I killed, and came back in Mass effect please? I am ready to hear everything.

so the whole suicide mission is meaningless?

Why do you say that ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 avril 2011 - 10:07 .

[Mylene]

Sylvianus wrote...

so the whole suicide mission is meaningless?

Why do you say that ?

Cerbrus has succeded in bringing the dead back to life!!
So, in theory,cerbrus can revive any organic being that has been dead
so,any squadmate who's dead during SM can be brought back the same way shepard did.
It could actually happen in the ME universe given the shepard reborn plot,but i'm sure that bioware wouldnt revive dead squadmates.
therefore,once tali is  dead,tali is dead.

well, in fact,all i want to say is the reborn of shepard plot is silly.

oh,sorry for my english since i'm not a native speaker.

[Sylvianus]

Yeah it's true.

Cerberus has succeded in Bringing the dead back to life!

We don't know how they did it (I suspect Reaper' s materials), and who has an interest to revive Tali ?

That said, we can revive it with a mechanical part, or create a clone from her dead bodie.

But which player would accept that ? See its decision ignored in the sequel ? This is especially the most important thing.

If we are offered the opportunity to kill someone, it is not to see him in top form and with no explanation as Leliana. She did not even mention my attempt to kill her.

Why? Because it has been ignored, ousted from the story as if it never existed. That's what's wrong.

Flemeth had returned, but it does not bother me, because history has taken into account in our decision, it has survived because it has anticipated our decision to kill her with Morrigan.

oh,sorry for my english since i'm not a native speaker.

Haha, I forgive you because it' my case !!!! Do not worry  

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 avril 2011 - 10:57 .

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

This should be stickied

[Jebel Krong]

JKoopman wrote...

If it were to be confirmed that Tali wasn't going to have a significant presence as a squadmate/LI in ME3, I wouldn't even buy it. That's all I'll say. No Tali = no sale.

that's both sad and pathetic.

[xSTONEYx187x]

Mylene wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

so the whole suicide mission is meaningless?

Why do you say that ?

Cerbrus has succeded in bringing the dead back to life!!
So, in theory,cerbrus can revive any organic being that has been dead
so,any squadmate who's dead during SM can be brought back the same way shepard did.
It could actually happen in the ME universe given the shepard reborn plot,but i'm sure that bioware wouldnt revive dead squadmates.
therefore,once tali is  dead,tali is dead.

well, in fact,all i want to say is the reborn of shepard plot is silly.

oh,sorry for my english since i'm not a native speaker.

It would cost way to much though. It cost Cerberus 4 billion credits alone to bring Shep back. Multiply that by 12, you really think Cerberus would invest all that in a few former employees and mercenaries? 

Also the Tech was destroyed when the Lazurus Station was destroyed. 

Modifié par xSTONEYx187x, 14 avril 2011 - 01:45 .

[The_Illusive]

^BW just have to push a button and amazing stuff will happen

[darknoon5]

Jebel Krong wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

If it were to be confirmed that Tali wasn't going to have a significant presence as a squadmate/LI in ME3, I wouldn't even buy it. That's all I'll say. No Tali = no sale.

that's both sad and pathetic.

Yep, this. If people buy the game for one character, then their opinion on the game itself is worth nothing.

[Mylene]

xSTONEYx187x wrote...
It would cost way to much though. It cost Cerberus 4 billion credits alone to bring Shep back. Multiply that by 12, you really think Cerberus would invest all that in a few former employees and mercenaries? 

Also the Tech was destroyed when the Minute Man Station was destroyed. 

Whether Cerbrus will bring back dead crew member dosent really matter,what really matter is that a dead person should remain dead in the ME universe no matter he/she is shepard or not since every squadmate can die in the end and the shepard reborn plot makes the final mission look like a joke.