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#26
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Generally speaking, I save whoever is guarding the bomb. If it were a real situation, I would secure the location with the greatest strategic priority. You have 1 team that has accomplished their mission but is pinned down, and a 2nd team which is still trying to defend the bomb.

Saving the first team doesn't make any sense to me -- if I chance the bomb defender being over-whelmed, then I risk the bomb being disabled.

As far as who goes on what team: a lot of times I do this accidentally without thinking about it. So my decision is made for me most often.

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ADLegend21 wrote...
I wish you could sacrafice a different squadmate though. =/

Cut-paste that prat Carver from DA2 and sacrifice him instead :P

Modifié par Pscyon, 12 avril 2011 - 08:31 .


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My original main Shepard (named Ethan, and created before my first 360 RROD'd me) was an Earthborn War Hero Paragon Soldier, who always got along well with comrades. With the choice for Ash/Kaidan, I saved Ash due to romances, but apart from that, since I like to RP my Sheps, I thought more deeply about the choice.

I decided that Ashley and Ethan, having both been Soldiers and even trained at the same Alliance facility, would naturally have a lot in common. Added to that, the Earthborn Shep is always a former teen criminal, and without parents, wouldn't have much of an education. I decided that despite that, my Shepard would actually be as cultured as Ashley is, further giving them something in common. He'd also be religious to a degree, like Ash.

Kaidan, though, is another story-- while I'd say Ethan and Kaidan were close friends, they just didn't have as much in common-- Kaidan was a biotic, Ethan wasn't. While both were diplomatic towards other races... *shrug* I dunno, Kaidan just never seemed worth saving, even in hindsight. In addition, Ethan stayed loyal to Ash in ME2.

When I got a new 360, I remade Ethan, though the one difference was that he was a Spacer instead of an Earthborn, since I thought thet'd give him and Ashley yet another thing in common. However, I'm considering going back and remaking Ethan again to be just like the original I had, just so the Reaper attack on Earth can be a bit more... personal to him.

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I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.

Modifié par Notanything, 12 avril 2011 - 08:38 .


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I picked Ashley because I picked Kaidan the time before that. Doubt it'll affect me that much.

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- John Sheppard (Soldier, War Hero, Spacer, Paragon): Ashley because she was my LI
- Virgine Sheppard (Adept, Ruthless, Earthborn, Renegade): Ashley because as soldier she gave me the balance I needed in my team.
- Sam Sheppar (Infiltrator, Sole survior, colonist, Paragrade(ME1)/Renegon(ME2)): Kaidan because as sentinel he gave me the balance I needed in my team.

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Notanything wrote...

I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.


Kaidan's a Sentinel, though. Oh, by the way, did anyone ever feel like Sentinel and Vanguard in ME1 just... flat-out sucked when you started out. I love them in ME2; SO much better than in ME1, what with Tech Armor (though I admit it IS somewhat annoying to see it in gameplay but not cutscenes) and of course Shepard CHARGE!!! However... though I've played all classes except Infiltrator (gonna do that one soon), I have to admit my favorite class is the Soldier. What can I say? I love being in the thick of the action... blame Halo. :P

EDIT: Ah, wait you edited. LOL... my points stand, however. xD

Modifié par Urdnot Orrad, 12 avril 2011 - 08:45 .


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Saved Ash with my FemShep, least annoying of the two, wanted to nuke them both to be honest.

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Mersey wrote...

Saved Ash with my FemShep, least annoying of the two, wanted to nuke them both to be honest.


Know who I thought was most annoying out of the ME1 squad? Liara. She's cool, but just... so naive in ME1. Glad the upgraded her personality a bit in later canon.

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I chose Ash not because I thought Kaidan was boring, I actually liked Kaidan.

I just don't like seeing women get killed.

It's a thing.

Yes men do have a bias towards protecting women. That's part of the reason I saved her. The other reason is I simply preferred her chacter over Kaidan, that and it was the logical choice. Kaidan was one man at the bomb site. Ashley was with a whole team of Salarians. A group outweighs the individual.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Notanything wrote...

I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.


Kaidan's a Sentinel, though. Oh, by the way, did anyone ever feel like Sentinel and Vanguard in ME1 just... flat-out sucked when you started out. I love them in ME2; SO much better than in ME1, what with Tech Armor (though I admit it IS somewhat annoying to see it in gameplay but not cutscenes) and of course Shepard CHARGE!!! However... though I've played all classes except Infiltrator (gonna do that one soon), I have to admit my favorite class is the Soldier. What can I say? I love being in the thick of the action... blame Halo. :P

EDIT: Ah, wait you edited. LOL... my points stand, however. xD


If you insist.  Anybody with throw or lift is a good squad mate in my eyes.  There is no way to describe the joy I got from throwing enemies into orbit after slapping them with singularity, or lift.

Modifié par Notanything, 12 avril 2011 - 08:51 .


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Notanything wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Notanything wrote...

I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.


Kaidan's a Sentinel, though. Oh, by the way, did anyone ever feel like Sentinel and Vanguard in ME1 just... flat-out sucked when you started out. I love them in ME2; SO much better than in ME1, what with Tech Armor (though I admit it IS somewhat annoying to see it in gameplay but not cutscenes) and of course Shepard CHARGE!!! However... though I've played all classes except Infiltrator (gonna do that one soon), I have to admit my favorite class is the Soldier. What can I say? I love being in the thick of the action... blame Halo. :P

EDIT: Ah, wait you edited. LOL... my points stand, however. xD


If you insist.  Anybody with throw or lift is a good squad mate in my eyes.  There is no way to describe the Joy I got from throwing enemies into orbit after slapping them with singularity, or lift.


Oh I agree, it's pretty fulfilling... just not quite as much for me in ME1. ME2's biotics were much more fleshed out and a lot more fun to play with, in my honest opinion. I LOVE double-teaming enemies by having Jacob use Pull and then I either do Throw (as a Sentinel) or Charge (as a Vanguard).

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I always save Kaidan...Simple reason? I like his character better. Plus, I need some finesse on my squad since I like playing the Soldier class. He throws people into the air, I shoot 'em down.

Given a choice, I wouldn't sacrifice either, but I probably wouldn't have brought her along from Eden Prime in the first place.

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Ashley was a racist ****. Kaidan was a smart and mature guy. You get where Im going with this.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Notanything wrote...

I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.


Kaidan's a Sentinel, though. Oh, by the way, did anyone ever feel like Sentinel and Vanguard in ME1 just... flat-out sucked when you started out. I love them in ME2; SO much better than in ME1, what with Tech Armor (though I admit it IS somewhat annoying to see it in gameplay but not cutscenes) and of course Shepard CHARGE!!! However... though I've played all classes except Infiltrator (gonna do that one soon), I have to admit my favorite class is the Soldier. What can I say? I love being in the thick of the action... blame Halo. :P

EDIT: Ah, wait you edited. LOL... my points stand, however. xD

Vanguard in ME1 was OP! They had throw and warp! Much better than pull and shockwave imo

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There's a mostly thoughtful thread on the subject here: http://social.biowar...4/index/4767131

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...
Oh
I agree, it's pretty fulfilling... just not quite as much for me in
ME1. ME2's biotics were much more fleshed out and a lot more fun to play
with, in my honest opinion. I LOVE double-teaming enemies by having
Jacob use Pull and then I either do Throw (as a Sentinel) or Charge (as a
Vanguard).


I preferred when biotics would work on protected enemies, might have had a long cool down, but at least when I sent them into orbit in that game, they would die. ME2 biotics are fun, but whenever I send somebody into orbit, they don't die from the fall, and end up getting back up in some amazing miraculous feat. I do like slamming enemies though.

Modifié par Notanything, 12 avril 2011 - 09:02 .


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In my first gameplay, I saved Kaidan because he was with the bomb (and I thought it was more important). In the second one, I saved Ash because I didn't want to be involved with him >.<

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atheelogos wrote...

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Notanything wrote...

I saved Kaidan, Ashley gives me the impression of some gung-ho cowboy with barely any brains, I didn't like her at all, the only redeeming factor about her is the appearance of her armor. And not even because it's "attractive" (Some might say), just because it looks cool. Her personality fit her sitting protecting the nuclear device to the death. The only remorse I felt was because of her sister, but then I got over it because she didn't just have one.

Plus, Kaidan is one of the few Biotic users in the game series, it felt nice to have another one by my side through the game.  I already had enough gun users.  I hope he'll be a good squad mate in the third game.


Kaidan's a Sentinel, though. Oh, by the way, did anyone ever feel like Sentinel and Vanguard in ME1 just... flat-out sucked when you started out. I love them in ME2; SO much better than in ME1, what with Tech Armor (though I admit it IS somewhat annoying to see it in gameplay but not cutscenes) and of course Shepard CHARGE!!! However... though I've played all classes except Infiltrator (gonna do that one soon), I have to admit my favorite class is the Soldier. What can I say? I love being in the thick of the action... blame Halo. :P

EDIT: Ah, wait you edited. LOL... my points stand, however. xD

Vanguard in ME1 was OP! They had throw and warp! Much better than pull and shockwave imo


Warp, I like. Pull? I like. Shockwave? Pff... pansies use it. I'd rather use a maxed-out Throw with area effect myself. Also, Slam is very very VERY satisfying to use... Probably tied with Charge as my favorite biotic power.

Modifié par Urdnot Orrad, 12 avril 2011 - 09:01 .


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Ashley is my love interest, so I saved her.
Rest in peace Kaidan you glorious bastard!

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With DA, Bioware has shown that death means nothing and the person can easily return. So Kaidan and Ashley can be in ME3. Reuniting the original 3 squad.

Besides someone else escaped the nuke blast as we saw in ME2, so it's possible the one left behind actually made it out too.

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i saved ash because she a Marine chick...ive dated one...tough girls..also for the snu snu time

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Kaidan. He was with the bomb (none metagaming reason) and he was a better fit in my squad and I preferred his personality.

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sheppard7 wrote...

With DA, Bioware has shown that death means nothing and the person can easily return. So Kaidan and Ashley can be in ME3. Reuniting the original 3 squad.

Besides someone else escaped the nuke blast as we saw in ME2, so it's possible the one left behind actually made it out too.


Uh... what? Someone else escaped? If you mean Rana, that was before the bomb was even deployed, let alone active. I'd like for both Kaidan and Ash to have survived, but the area the nuke destroyed would've killed one of them, and everyone still in the vicinity. Either of them got vaporized, no way around it.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

Uh... what? Someone else escaped? If you mean Rana, that was before the bomb was even deployed, let alone active. I'd like for both Kaidan and Ash to have survived, but the area the nuke destroyed would've killed one of them, and everyone still in the vicinity. Either of them got vaporized, no way around it.

Think he's referring to how Bioware will literally just zap them in from thin air regardless of how they actually died and how (un)likely their return would be without offering any reasonable explanation if they should wish to do so.