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[MrFob]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Narratively, If you're playing Shep as humanity's poster child, I really feel like Vanguard is the way to go. Decent biotics and impressive firepower - pretty much exactly what you'd see in our "features list" as a race. Humanity - a hot chick with telekinesis and a shotgun. Now available in Spectre!

If you're playing pure, hardcore Renegade, I think Soldier or Infiltrator is the most plot appropriate. They just seem like they would have had the kind of past that would lead to that particular attitude and worldview.

, my (mostly) paragon Shep is an Infiltrator, while my badass, pure renegade Shep is a vanguard.
Makes sense for me, the paragon guy likes to think things through, and to use violence with precision while the renegade guy likes to get into the middle of a fight and shoot everyone dead with his shotgun. I always imagine him going "Yipikayeeee m********ers!" when he goes charging in .

That said, any class makes sense, and I like the flavor they add to the story. My Engineer Shepard has a very "Oh my god, again? You guys are really inefficient about all of this 'saving the universe' stuff, you know?" attitude, like a beleaguered IT guy. There are interesting ways to look at all of them.

Agree here, it all depends on how you roleplay your Shep.

[Lunatic LK47]

Solder. Special Forces Training is freaking hard by today's standards. They have to not only deal with physical training, but have to go through psychological training as well, not to mention they're more or less expected to be 100% proficient with their guns up to the point the weapons are like a second skin to them, and that involves spending HUNDREDS of hours in the firing range.(i.e. Gotta make those shots accurate if your missions involve saving hostages.).

[atheelogos]

GodWood wrote...

My favourite class is probably Sentinel closely followed by Adept however despite this I still choose to have my canon Shepard as a Soldier simply because it seems best story wise.


Also doesn't the timeline for an Earthborn Shep and a Colonist Shep not match up if he's a biotic?

I disagree. The devs really hype up Biotics in ME. It just makes more sense to me to have Shep be a Biotic. imho of course^_^

[atheelogos]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Solder. Special Forces Training is freaking hard by today's standards. They have to not only deal with physical training, but have to go through psychological training as well, not to mention they're more or less expected to be 100% proficient with their guns up to the point the weapons are like a second skin to them, and that involves spending HUNDREDS of hours in the firing range.(i.e. Gotta make those shots accurate if your missions involve saving hostages.).

Idk. Being Special forces without being a biotic just doesn't seem that special to me. Anybody can wield a gun, but few can master biotics.

[didymos1120]

atheelogos wrote...
Idk. Being Special forces without being a biotic just doesn't seem that special to me. Anybody can wield a gun, but few can master biotics.

Yeah: few enough that they'd never be able to staff Alliance special forces with just biotics.

[CroGamer002]

classes that makes most sense for Shepard are Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard, Engineer, Adept and Sentinel.

[johnbonhamatron]

Weirdly, the class that seems most appropriate for each of my Sheps depends on gender, in my head. For my two canon ones (ie/ who I will've carried over through all 3 games), I have a male soldier and a female engineer, and it became so engrained in my head, I can't see the opposite gender playing either of those classes.

Likewise, to me, I always seem to gravitate to making female vaguards and male infiltrators.

I have precisely zero idea why they stuck in my head that way... lol

Modifié par johnbonhamatron, 13 avril 2011 - 06:38 .

[atheelogos]

didymos1120 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...
Idk. Being Special forces without being a biotic just doesn't seem that special to me. Anybody can wield a gun, but few can master biotics.

Yeah: few enough that they'd never be able to staff Alliance special forces with just biotics.

few for the moment yes, but as Biotic research advances there will be more biotics on the field mark my words.

[PseudoEthnic]

Mesina2 wrote...

classes that makes most sense for Shepard are Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard, Engineer, Adept and Sentinel.

This.

[Knightwolf15]

Sorry to necro but I feel that anything that has full weapons training would be the best choice. My 3 favorite are Soldier, Infiltrator, and Vanguard. All three can pretty much be played with any set up. Heck I did a sniper novaguard one time. It's pretty much all about sniping and charging to the farthest enemy you can. Anything with alot of guns feels very Shepardy lol

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

Luc0s wrote...

Well, the default John/Jane Shepard is a soldier, so...

I think if there is a canon Shepard, he'd be a commando soldier.

In real-life, commando's operate in small units, are capable of carrying out infiltration missions and are trained for assaults in military targets. They're good at "hit and run" tactics and are often deployed in the enemy's territory. Commando's are trained to hit the enemy where it hurts.

This sounds exactly like what Shepard does in Mass Effect (regardless of his gameplay class).


This is why my personal "canon Shepard" has the soldier class with the commando specialisation class.

Good catch! Those are my sentiments as well. Plus, Shepard is in the Alliance Navy. He's referred to as a Marine frequently. I always felt that N7 is a Special Forces branch similar to the Navy SEAL or Force Recon. (Yes I am aware that USMC and USN are two different things  )

[DarkGujji]

The Infiltrater. The Soldier seems like a very common class, judging the fact that Shepard is an intergalactic hero. The Vanguard seems like it is too much of an "in your face" class where there is no skill required on the battlefield. Every other class is fine but I think the Infiltator suits Shepard's role the best.

[JGDrummer11]

So, for me, Shepard is a Soldier through and through. I've played 2 full playthrus (ME1-3) both as Soldier and both ended up being Paragon. (I imported the same character the 2nd time around for the bonus level, items, etc. I also tried the "what would I do do" approach to decisions, and both ended up pretty full sided Paragon. Hey, I'm a nice guy I guess!) I just started my 3rd round and chose Vanguard in ME1. (I really like the vanguard classes in ME3 Multiplayer) I'm about 1/3 into the game and I feel like I should have picked soldier based on how the game portrays Shepard. So, that said - I feel like the Paragon Shepard is a true blood soldier.

So, based on the way the cutscenes and dialog portray Shepard it always sounds like he's a soldier. For instance, as I'm playing as a Vanguard (a biotic), it seems odd when Shepard asks questions like "What's an L# implant?" or many of his other infantile questions regarding the world around him. I mean, if he's a biotic, wouldn't he know what implants are? (I know the questions are there to explain things to us the player and build the universe and lore, but still). Along the same line, once you get into ME2 and meet Jack and do her loyalty mission, Shepard seems completely oblivious to all the biotic goings on in the universe. Again, strange if he was a biotic class (vanguard, adept).
Also, in ME3 there are several times (as paragon anyways) where Shepard asks questions like, "Why am I a hero, I'm just a regular soldier." I don't know if the renegade dialog is much different, but if Shepard was an extraordinary being (i.e. having unnatural biotic powers), he might be more understanding of his heroic persona.
After this playthru I plan on making a femshep thats very much renegade to see the differences. I will probably pick an infiltrator or adept class - not sure yet.

Either way (to me), it just FEELS like Shepard is one hell of a SOLDIER.

[Addictress]

 Soldier makes the most sense, followed by Vanguard. It's awkward to take away the limelight and uniqueness of Jack/Samara being an adept, and it's awkward to take away the limelight of Tali as an engineer.

[Addictress]

JGDrummer11 wrote...

So, for me, Shepard is a Soldier through and through. I've played 2 full playthrus (ME1-3) both as Soldier and both ended up being Paragon. (I imported the same character the 2nd time around for the bonus level, items, etc. I also tried the "what would I do do" approach to decisions, and both ended up pretty full sided Paragon. Hey, I'm a nice guy I guess!) I just started my 3rd round and chose Vanguard in ME1. (I really like the vanguard classes in ME3 Multiplayer) I'm about 1/3 into the game and I feel like I should have picked soldier based on how the game portrays Shepard. So, that said - I feel like the Paragon Shepard is a true blood soldier.

So, based on the way the cutscenes and dialog portray Shepard it always sounds like he's a soldier. For instance, as I'm playing as a Vanguard (a biotic), it seems odd when Shepard asks questions like "What's an L# implant?" or many of his other infantile questions regarding the world around him. I mean, if he's a biotic, wouldn't he know what implants are? (I know the questions are there to explain things to us the player and build the universe and lore, but still). Along the same line, once you get into ME2 and meet Jack and do her loyalty mission, Shepard seems completely oblivious to all the biotic goings on in the universe. Again, strange if he was a biotic class (vanguard, adept).
Also, in ME3 there are several times (as paragon anyways) where Shepard asks questions like, "Why am I a hero, I'm just a regular soldier." I don't know if the renegade dialog is much different, but if Shepard was an extraordinary being (i.e. having unnatural biotic powers), he might be more understanding of his heroic persona.
After this playthru I plan on making a femshep thats very much renegade to see the differences. I will probably pick an infiltrator or adept class - not sure yet.

Either way (to me), it just FEELS like Shepard is one hell of a SOLDIER.

This. I've thought this too. Though all his squadmates' powers can often be 'gained' once finishing their loyalty missions, even as a soldier. Even in ME3, Shepard can add powers.

[ArtyomKalashnikov]

Shepard are all of the classes, he is just too bad in the butt. Specialization are for insects!

[Sykar]

Mesina2 wrote...

classes that makes most sense for Shepard are Soldier, Infiltrator, Vanguard, Engineer, Adept and Sentinel.

This.

Addictress wrote...

 Soldier makes the most sense, followed by Vanguard. It's awkward to take away the limelight and uniqueness of Jack/Samara being an adept, and it's awkward to take away the limelight of Tali as an engineer.

And what about soldiers like Ashley or Zaheed?

Modifié par Sykar, 06 février 2013 - 02:50 .

[MathiasShepard]

atheelogos wrote...

GodWood wrote...

My favourite class is probably Sentinel closely followed by Adept however despite this I still choose to have my canon Shepard as a Soldier simply because it seems best story wise.


Also doesn't the timeline for an Earthborn Shep and a Colonist Shep not match up if he's a biotic?

I disagree. The devs really hype up Biotics in ME. It just makes more sense to me to have Shep be a Biotic. imho of course^_^

There is absolutely nothing about shepards background that suggests he is a biotic. Most characters who are biotics originate from a specific biotic schools and had to deal with the political climates of those situations... there is nothing of that in shepards past.

The soldier IS the default class... that's just the facts. If you choose the default shepard in the first game you'll be a soldier. All the origonal backgrounds show different ways in how you joined the military as a soldier.

I'm not saying that being any other class isn't viable(my favorite and first was vanguard), but if we are discussing the cannon class(which is a very loose conceptbecause this game is meant to give you the choice of all the classes)... it's without a doubt the soldier.

Modifié par MathiasShepard, 06 février 2013 - 03:39 .

[Brannon]

While I usually play soldier's, vanguard is the only other class that makes sense to me personally. I think that a spacer background is a perfectly logical as an origin for Sherpard as a vanguard. His parents, particularly his mother, being around element zero in various forms as a member of the Alliance is an easy indicator of the myriad ways that he could have developed biotic abilities. There is nothing but bare bones detail when it comes to Shepard's background anyway and no specific detail in regards to his training. 

While it is weird where Shepard asks questions about implants and the like, don't forget that Kaiden does acknowledge that Shepard is a biotic if you talk to him, so that kind of balances that out.  However, it could be suggested that a powerful biotic would be even more likely to be able to handle the mental "attack" of the beacon on Eden Prime. 

That being said, soldier followed closly by vanguard are the only two classes that make sense for me and the only two I have any real interest in playing. I feel the other classes are generally better suited for support roles, which are covered by your party members. 

Modifié par Brannon, 07 février 2013 - 01:56 .

[PsiFive]

The soldier class I see as synonymous with real world terms like "infantryman", "commando", "rifleman" etc. In much the same way someone in a real army can refer to themselves as "soldier" when the work they do, the equivalent of a game's class, is radio operator or cook I have no problem with adept, engineer, sentinel etc Sheps calling themselves soldiers.

And I'm firmly in the no particular class camp.

[Dabrikishaw]

I prefer Soldier in Mass Effect 1 then Vanguard in Mass Effect 2 and 3 for my canon sheps.

[VirtualAlex]

Soldier for sure.

I actually hate the idea of Shepard being biotic mostly because the writers dropped the ball. In ME1 they made human biotics seem like a really huge deal starting with Kaidens horrible stories of brain camp all that way to the 2-3 missions where biotics go berzerk and kidnap people or start a cult. It seems humans being biotics is pretty special, they need tons of training and implants and often lose thier minds.

If Shepard is a biotics it is hardly even mentioned. Shepard seemingly never went to brain camp, his implants (if even mentioned) have no side effects etc... It's odd because it's all Kaiden talks about, and Shepard never really feels for him.

[PsiFive]

Dealt with in codex and dialogue. Only the L2 implant biotics have serious side effects, and not all of them. And while biotics among humans are rare I'm sure someone said something about many of them choosing careers in space so Shepard as the Normandy's second biotic doesn't seem a problem. Just as well because most of my soldier Sheps with a bonus talent have either Lift or Singularity.