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[armass]

Thing that has made me think lately is how did human civilization in ME universe survive the 21st century, the looming end of oil, the climate change and all the conflicts that potentially rose from these?

A future that we ourselves will also face.

[AdmiralCheez]

Discovered interstellar travel at just the right time, I suppose.

[Rurik_Niall]

Cars that run on Soylent Green helped too.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Good luck.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Because that's what humanity does.

We survive.

[Da Mecca]

Prothean technology dude.

[Pwener2313]

In reality, we would have suffered the same fate as the Drell race. But then there would not have been much of a story for Humanity to go on.

[armass]

Da Mecca wrote...

Prothean technology dude.

But that thing came only at 2140s, analysts say we will run out of oil before 2080, and that is not taking into effect that India and China are growing technologically and want to use it too.

Well I guess somebody finally got hydrogen or solar energy accepted at higher corporations.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 10:37 .

[Pwener2313]

Da Mecca wrote...

Prothean technology dude.

Let's see.....

2011: We're running out of oil and other crucial minerals and politicians and CEOs don't give a damn to find alternate powers.

2137: First mining operation in Saturn is established.

In reality, we would have ran out of resources by then and died. It is never implied that humanity found alternate power means.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 12 avril 2011 - 10:40 .

[Malanek]

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

[armass]

They better find it, you cant do anything with money if youre dead. If your children are dead. If your whole world is dead. I know how crazy CEos and politicians are, but this is a fact that should have entered their brains at least once and stayed there.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 10:42 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

armass wrote...
They better find it, you cant do anything with money if youre dead. If your children are dead. If your whole world is dead.

Well at least I can die knowing I was richer than that those other poor SOBs.

[Pwener2313]

Malanek999 wrote...

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

All of that is the crap they feed you so you'd shut up and act like nothing is wrong. The reality is a grim and bleak future for humanity. Did you know that by 2016 the north pole will have no ice and that polar bears will go extinct? Did you know that by 2050 all oil reserves will be depleted? Did you know that thanks to global warming, by the 2100 almost half of Earth will be underwater?

Oh yeah, no immediate threat, non at all.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 12 avril 2011 - 10:45 .

[Hathur]

We have bigger problems than running out of oil (estimated 2050-2080 I believe)... there won't be enough fresh water in the world to sustain the population (estimated 12 billion or so by 2060).

Unless there's a huge leap in desalination technology (cost efficient and effective technology), billions will begin dying from lack of water & food within the next 40-50 years.... that's a problem I'm hoping to live long enough to see solved, just out of sheer curiosity (I'll be lucky to be alive in 40-50 yrs though.. will be a very very old man... at least if the world does go to hell in a hand basket around 2050, I'll either be dead already or so far in my twilight years that I won't care).

I won't even point out the massive food shortages occuring TODAY in the world and the mass hoarding of grain occuring by western nations (though that's motivated by profit & greed... though sadly is causing the deaths of people in 3rd world nations that need it, but can't afford it).

We are breeding faster than this world can support us.. if a solution isn't discovered within many of our (or you younger folk) life times, then the human race is going to endure a massive catastrophe in half a century or so.

Doing my part though... not having any goddamn kids  (though honestly that's motivated by my dislike at kids & marriage in general.. not because I'm a "good citizen of the world" )

Modifié par Hathur, 12 avril 2011 - 10:51 .

[Pwener2313]

You won't care, but your family will be alive and by that time it is estimated that there will be major food scarcity worldwide. In reality, humans in ME would have suffered the same fate as the Drell.... if they were lucky.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

armass wrote...

Da Mecca wrote...

Prothean technology dude.

But that thing came only at 2140s, analysts say we will run out of oil before 2080, and that is not taking into effect that India and China are growing technologically and want to use it too.

Well I guess somebody finally got hydrogen or solar energy accepted at higher corporations.

Well Earth Shep literaly grew up on the streets, so it's not unlikely that human civilization was at the very brink of collapse when they discovered the ME Drive.

[Pwener2313]

[quote]Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

[/quote]
Well Earth Shep literaly grew up on the streets, so it's not unlikely that human civilization was at the very brink of collapse when they discovered the ME Drive.[/quote]

Orphaned kids living in the street have always existed. What kind of reality do you live in?

[Garuda One]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

All of that is the crap they feed you so you'd shut up and act like nothing is wrong. The reality is a grim and bleak future for humanity. Did you know that by 2016 the north pole will have no ice and that polar bears will go extinct? Did you know that by 2050 all oil reserves will be depleted? Did you know that thanks to global warming, by the 2100 almost half of Earth will be underwater?

Oh yeah, no immediate threat, non at all.

Dat Tin Foil conspiracies

[Pwener2313]

Garuda One wrote...

Dat Tin Foil conspiracies

And this is why I find it ignorant and  funny when people ask me why I have Nihilistic inclinations. Fine, take it as a joke, hope your one of the billions to be directly affected and have to scrounge food from garbage cans.

[charmingcharlie]

If you think running out of oil is a problem then you definitely do not want to read this article :-

http://www.cracked.c...-out-of_p1.html

Thankfully Mass Effect is science fiction so it can ignore inconvenient things like "humanity probably won't survive to see the end of the 21st century".

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 12 avril 2011 - 10:52 .

[armass]

Garuda One wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

All of that is the crap they feed you so you'd shut up and act like nothing is wrong. The reality is a grim and bleak future for humanity. Did you know that by 2016 the north pole will have no ice and that polar bears will go extinct? Did you know that by 2050 all oil reserves will be depleted? Did you know that thanks to global warming, by the 2100 almost half of Earth will be underwater?

Oh yeah, no immediate threat, non at all.

Dat Tin Foil conspiracies

I can say this much, tough I have a tremendous faith in humans and their ability to survive and fix problems. IF we do absolutely nothing or just let the shortsighted lead us around, future years will resemble Mad Max to our children and their children. Or worse.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 10:58 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

armass wrote...
future years will resemble Mad Max to our children and their children.

So I'm going to miss the fun? Aww man, I was tricking out my car just for that.

[Malanek]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

All of that is the crap they feed you so you'd shut up and act like nothing is wrong. The reality is a grim and bleak future for humanity. Did you know that by 2016 the north pole will have no ice and that polar bears will go extinct? Did you know that by 2050 all oil reserves will be depleted? Did you know that thanks to global warming, by the 2100 almost half of Earth will be underwater?

Oh yeah, no immediate threat, non at all.

We can already grow biofuels, they just aren't currently economical. We have a multitude of other means of generating electricity. Way more than half the earth is underwater already.