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[Pwener2313]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


That is the first time I have heard those numbers.
North Pole icefree in 2016? I seriously doubt it would be that early. Chances are it might never come that far, so much water set free changes the whole planet's climate with fairly unpredictable dimensions, that make the entire process unforeseeable.
Oil out in 2050? 2060-70 is more likely given our growth rates.
And by 2100 half the earth under water? There is no legit data suggesting it might actually come to this. It is a scenario that might occur, but is not set to be inevitable.

Were you given a research assigment to find these numbers? I did.

North Pole's current state

With all that ice melting, Erth's islands (all of them: Cuba, Haiti, Puerto Rico, Hawaii and part of Australia, ect. will disappear).

Read this if you don't want to remain like most ignorant people who think nothing is wrong.

[Mir5]

Humanity needs to learn some communal spirit and self control. Paranoia or not, nothing pisses me off more in life than the constant danger of someone ripping you off. That behaviour just ain't gonna work in the big picture on long run.
See, it's not the oil that's destroying us. It's simply human greed. Ambition and rivalry are good to some extent but some people just take it way too far.

Modifié par Mir5, 12 avril 2011 - 11:01 .

[armass]

ReconTeam wrote...

armass wrote...
future years will resemble Mad Max to our children and their children.

So I'm going to miss the fun? Aww man, I was tricking out my car just for that.

May seem funny to you, but let's see how many is laughing in the 2080 if the worst comes to pass.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 11:00 .

[ME_Fan]

Nuclear Fusion people! It's the way of the future.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I have so much I want to say regarding this topic that I have no idea where to start.Guess I should leave it for later.

[Pwener2313]

[quote]Malanek999 wrote...

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We can already grow biofuels, they just aren't currently economical. We have a multitude of other means of generating electricity. Way more than half the earth is underwater already.[/quote]

Not economical? Guy, it's tremendously economical. The reality is that big bad companies killed the whole idea because it would crush they're companies who are dependent on they're fuels that are killing the planet. That's what happened with the electric car and the oil companies, otherwise everyone would be using one.

[ME_Fan]

Reading some of the pathetic responses in this thread is p***ing me off, oh and pwener, I've done my research, and you're talking bull****. Apart from that last part perhaps.

Modifié par ME_Fan, 12 avril 2011 - 11:07 .

[armass]

Many things are possible, but people and goverments really need to do something about this before it's too late. "it's not my problem" thinking is too common and destructive in the long run.

But hey, maybe we get lucky and some aliens contact us in time and give us a free energy source. Or something like that

[Pwener2313]

Mir5 wrote...

Humanity needs to learn some communal spirit and self control. Paranoia or not, nothing pisses me off more in life than the constant danger of someone ripping you off. That behaviour just ain't gonna work in the big picture on long run.
See, it's not the oil that's destroying us. It's simply human greed. Ambition and rivalry are good to some extent but some people just take it way too far.

This reminds me of the lightbulb conspiracy. Companies (out of greed) shortened the lightbulb's lasting hours from around 3000h. to 1500h. so more would be bought faster when they go bad faster. The same thing is done with printers when a special chip is broken inside that can be easily replaced, but the chips are quicky discontinued for new models, forcing you to buy an entire new printer and toss the old one. This makes the resources used to make these products run out faster.

Watch "Story of the Stuff" in YouTube, it's an eye opener.

[Pwener2313]

ME_Fan wrote...

Reading some of the pathetic responses in this thread is p***ing me off, oh and pwener, I've done my research, and you're talking bull****.

And this is exactly how the goverment and the big corporations want you to act. You've done research? Of course you did. You know who taught me all this? My Global Society teacher and Ethical Studies teacher in college. Who told you? The internet.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 12 avril 2011 - 11:09 .

[Malanek]

Pwener2313 wrote...
Not economical? Guy, it's tremendously economical. The reality is that big bad companies killed the whole idea because it would crush they're companies who are dependent on they're fuels that are killing the planet. That's what happened with the electric car and the oil companies, otherwise everyone would be using one.

They are not currently economical. Period. Oil is still effectively cheaper than water. They can just pull it out of the ground. Producing biofuels in quantity takes land and energy. However it's getting close to a point where biofuels are becoming economical. There are thousands of research companies around the world looking to make biofuels work. The chemistry is simple, the engineering less so. The oil companies and oil rich countries are scared about biofuels but they don't have the power to suppress them.

[armass]

Concerning water, can't we turn ocean water into fresh drinking water somehow?

[ME_Fan]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

There are plenty of other forms of energy, it's just not currently economical to use them. Once the price of oil becomes prohibitive there will be more incentive to develop these. As for gloabl warming, well some areas of the planet are going to get dry, some very wet, while some will become more habitable. It's not a threat to human survival.

All of that is the crap they feed you so you'd shut up and act like nothing is wrong. The reality is a grim and bleak future for humanity. Did you know that by 2016 the north pole will have no ice and that polar bears will go extinct? Did you know that by 2050 all oil reserves will be depleted? Did you know that thanks to global warming, by the 2100 almost half of Earth will be underwater?

Oh yeah, no immediate threat, non at all.

This is biggest load of bull I've ever heard, I lol'd.

[DaVanguard]

[de-lurk]the solution is what its always has been a swift kick to the nads' so to speak is what is needed [re-lurk]

[Synobal]

Way I figure it is, our biggest threat is rich people, buying up resources and trying to sell them to me at insane prices. Thankfully ammunition is cheap so there is still a solution.

[armass]

Malanek999 wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...
Not economical? Guy, it's tremendously economical. The reality is that big bad companies killed the whole idea because it would crush they're companies who are dependent on they're fuels that are killing the planet. That's what happened with the electric car and the oil companies, otherwise everyone would be using one.

They are not currently economical. Period. Oil is still effectively cheaper than water. They can just pull it out of the ground. Producing biofuels in quantity takes land and energy. However it's getting close to a point where biofuels are becoming economical. There are thousands of research companies around the world looking to make biofuels work. The chemistry is simple, the engineering less so. The oil companies and oil rich countries are scared about biofuels but they don't have the power to suppress them.

They should be more scared about what depending on oil does in the long run. But your mind blurs when your making billions of dollars.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 11:13 .

[Polis4rule]

I'm majorly pissed off at BioWare for not accurately depicting reality and basing in game events on science!

I'm boycotting BioWare games!!

[Pwener2313]

Malanek999 wrote...

they don't have the power to suppress them.

They're losing it, I know that, but what irritates me is people who outright deny everything and say "I've done my research" when that's the real bull****. If they have done they're research, they'd be in my side.

[ME_Fan]

Pwener2313 wrote...

ME_Fan wrote...

Reading some of the pathetic responses in this thread is p***ing me off, oh and pwener, I've done my research, and you're talking bull****.

And this is exactly how the goverment and the big corporations want you to act. You've done research? Of course you did. You know who taught me all this? My Global Society teacher and Ethical Studies teacher in college. Who told you? The internet.

An ad-hominid argument? typical tree hugger response. Lol

[Pwener2313]

ME_Fan wrote...

This is biggest load of bull I've ever heard, I lol'd.

Im really sorry you feel that way. I hope that worst does not come to pass, but if it does, I hope your one of the first to be affected so you know who was right and wrong.

Thinking everything is OK and that resources are infinite is a nice little ideal, but it isn't the 50s. Wake up and smell the burning oil killing the planet.

[atheelogos]

armass wrote...

Thing that has made me think lately is how did human civilization in ME universe survive the 21st century, the looming end of oil, the climate change and all the conflicts that potentially rose from these?

A future that we ourselves will also face.

" the looming end of oil" There are other forms of energy on the horizon you know. Check out Fusion power.

" the climate change" If you read the codex this happened, but there are ways to reverse the damage. That's what Earth has been doing for the past couple of decades..... well until the Reapers attacked that is.

[Gentleman Moogle]

[Pwener2313]

ME_Fan wrote...

An ad-hominid argument? typical tree hugger response. Lol

Im a nihilistic psychology student. Thanks to people like you the planet is dying and us with it. Take it as a joke and insult me, but in a few years when there is no North Pole, you'll see who was right. But people like you are so stubborn that you'll all probably make a ridiculous excuse to why it happened.

[armass]

Nihilism is a dead end. Just my opinion.

Modifié par armass, 12 avril 2011 - 11:22 .

[Silmane]

ME_Fan, you aren't the only one. Like Fiery up top, I wanted to comment but don't know where to start. I already hate Pwener, so I guess I'll try to stay on topic. OP could've named this "post in my thread plz" because that's how this is lookin.

There is no telling what will happen by the time of Mass Effect. Since the game is based on the galaxy as a whole, how we figured out how to get past our current problems probably wasn't ontop of the writing team's priority list.

They survived. That's it.Your guess is as good as ours.