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Leliana, do i really need her?


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The Dead Milkman

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Leo1977 wrote...

As the topic provides, I am really not sure if I need her.  I have not found anything usefull yet in the chests that she can open.  I would rather use Morrigan.  Would I miss much if I cant open some of the chests?


You don't really NEED any character.

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I say leave the little nun back at camp and go with Zev. You really should have a rogue in your party, but I find Zev a lot more useful and entertaining than Lel. You can always give Zev a ranger subspec if you're keen on the extra pet, but I find him better with the duelist talents.

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Mikka-chan

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You most definitely don't need her. She's useful at times, but... you don't need any character. (And yeah, that includes Wynne.) If you like Morrigan more, then go with Mor.



Unless you have the hotfixed installed, she (as an archer) will not really compare to a dual-wielding rogue damage-wise. If you grab her early enough (IE, no hanging around leveling yourself up with the Duncan blood trick), though, you can just start moving her up the dual-wield track instead, though... or you can go talk with a Raven.



Trap disarming, lockpicking, and pickpocketing are all useful- the first admittedly mostly for XP (and to save your silly warriors from some stuns, occasionally) and the third for some loot. Lockpicking is better then the other two: there is a ton of XP to be made picking locks (someone who picks every lock they come across versus someone who never does will end up at least a level higher), and there is loot. The best loot isn't usually found in a pickable chest, but often an item to complete a set is, or just some money, and perhaps worse, some very nice gifts. These gifts are never the 'stop the whole party to squee over them', but quite a few 10 point gifts are locked up here and there. However, in most areas, nothing stops you from running through with your usual party, and re-jogging through the area with Lei later.



If you grab Zev early enough (or respec him), he can act as your groups lockpicker. Or, of course, your main character can, if you're a rogue. All in all, I think Lei isn't required at all... but a rogue of some kind does help. Who that rogue is should be up to you.

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valleyman88

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Leliana's job in my group was to earn me experience points by lock picking and trap disarming.



When there weren't any locks or traps around her job was to look pretty and sing me a song while Morrigan and I would light the world on fire

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I never use Leilana, but then my main character's a rogue and I also have Zevran. She really likes me though, all considering. :kissing:

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mbchudno wrote...

 Some random encounters come to mind where you have 10 or so traps you get 30-40 exp at level 7 for each.

Leliana couldn't disarm those traps when I was level 7 though, not sure what was required to disarm them, but it always failed on them all.

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Dark83 wrote...

The merchant in Lothering has a Tier 6 (or was it 7?) crossbow, for example. Even if you don't use it, that's a nice chunk of cash.

Imperium Crossbow (Dragonthorn Tier7) (Range 52 STR 30 required)

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blaalindorm wrote...
Leliana couldn't disarm those traps when I was level 7 though, not sure what was required to disarm them, but it always failed on them all.


1) The Cunning attribute (with Lethality, she can use it for damage, so it's fine to pump it a bit)
2) The Deft Hands talent line

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Jacks-Up wrote...

Leo1977 wrote...

As the topic provides, I am really not sure if I need her.  I have not found anything usefull yet in the chests that she can open.  I would rather use Morrigan.  Would I miss much if I cant open some of the chests?


No you can always go back to most areas latter an open everything with her but to use her as one of your mains no she not worth it or any rogue for that matter.

LOL you wouldn't say that to my Ass/Duelist....I swear he would have half the encounter killed before the rest of the party caught up to him when he went in stealth....and he did all my unlocking for me.  I still keep Lei just for the archery rang support.

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JabberJaww

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Leliana is part of my Dragon killing A-team. Use her as my Archer quite often




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I'd only ever keep her as an archer myself. Rogues in my experience are useless in the hands of the AI. If you micromanage them and set them up right though, they're amazing, so if you build Leliana right, there's no reason she can't be useful.



I'm going on a Rogue playthrough currently, and compared to my first playthrough, i'm definetly dying less. There's many reasons for that, but part of it is the fact that having a Rogue gives you a great scout, and gets rid of traps.


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majae

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I use her often, I actually prefer having her in my party.