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[Raisthlin Arckon]

Ive played most recent RPG's. Oblivion, Fallout, DO:A, KOTOR, Mass Effect etc..and a lot of olders ones.

For some reason, unknowned, i never played Baldurs Gate 2 (neither the first one)

Should i play Baldurs gate 2 ?

[JfBorrego]

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).



Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.



Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

[jawlz]

Absolutely. In my opinion, Baldur's Gate 2 was the single best computer game ever made.



I'd actually recommend playing both BG1 and 2 - there were several projects in existence that would let you play both as one game (and both in the BG 2 engine) - I'd look for one of those if you could BG1 was good, but man.... BG 2, just a groundbreaking, great, great game. The pinacle of CRPGs, in my opinion (some differ and say that Planescape: Torment was the best, but for me, BG2 is head and shoulders above everything else before or since).

[chizow]

Yes, and make sure to look into the widescreen mod and get them working. A few words of warning however, as rising expectations always make it harder to go back in time no matter how great the game was received initially. Graphics are 2D and animations aren't as fluid, and while they still hold up well at higher resolutions, they're uh, 2D. Most of the game is text-based, which may come as a shock in this era of completely voice-acted titles. Text and menus will be extremely tiny on higher resolutions. Many of the simple usability/UI features you've grown accustomed to and taken for granted will stick out sorely if they're omitted.

Otherwise, they're well worth it, check out Amazon for some nice bundle prices for BG1 + Tales of the Sword Coast and BG2 + Throne of Baal. I think there's a complete edition too with all 4 releases for a reasonable price, $30 or so I think?

Here's the one I'd get from Amazon, fulfilled by Amazon so very safe/reliable:

4-in-1 Complete Edition $30 shipped

Modifié par chizow, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:05 .

[Beowulf1990]

JfBorrego wrote...

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).

Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.

Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

I'm sorry but  i think you're suffering from a bit of fanboy'ism here. The dialogue in BG2 is never better than DA, not in content and definatly not in execution. As for the cut scenes.....WTF? Seriously, how can u even compare?

[JfBorrego]

The graphics is DA:Origins are nowhere near "cutting edge" so I don;t think going back to BG would be that big of a hit.



DA:Origins graphically (to me) looks like a lot of other 4-5 year old games.

[jawlz]

Beowulf1990 wrote...

JfBorrego wrote...

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).

Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.

Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

I'm sorry but  i think you're suffering from a bit of fanboy'ism here. The dialogue in BG2 is never better than DA, not in content and definatly not in execution. As for the cut scenes.....WTF? Seriously, how can u even compare?

I disagree. Irenicus' dialogue and the voice acting for it was tremendously well done.

[JfBorrego]

Beowulf1990 wrote...

JfBorrego wrote...

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).

Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.

Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

I'm sorry but  i think you're suffering from a bit of fanboy'ism here. The dialogue in BG2 is never better than DA, not in content and definatly not in execution. As for the cut scenes.....WTF? Seriously, how can u even compare?

I'm not a fan of cut scenes to begin with - I think it's a self indulgent exercise developers do to express their "creative" side.  99% they up be kludgy, cheesey and generally look far worse than the quality of the "main" game.

BG isn't nearly as bloated as DA is in this aspect.

[Ghandorian]

They are pretty old. More like a 2d game in isometric view. Fun for the story but ancient history as far as game engine.It is like 10 years old and looks it.



Your character imports from BG1 into Bg2 as they are the same game engine.



I'd keep an eye on the DAO toolset forum and see what people start doing with this game.

[jawlz]

Oh, and come on. Minsc and Boo are irreplacable, and Jan was a riot. Nothing in DA really compares to them....

[T0rin3]

Depends on whether you can tolerate the 9 year old graphics, but otherwise yes, you should definitely play it. I would too agree that BG2+expansions was the best RPG game ever made. I replayed it at recently as about a year ago, and was not disappointed.

[Mesecina]

For almost a decade BG2 was by far my favourite game but now I actually think I prefer DA because it tells an amazing story without any "god emoting" and has a variety of even more fleshed out characters along with the well shaped world that really suffers consequences regarding to your actions which is in my opinion groundbreaking.

Still BG2 and ToB were absolutely amazing and there's also a lot of high quality fan made content that can enhance the experence greatly.

[JfBorrego]

jynthor wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Beowulf1990 wrote...

JfBorrego wrote...

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).

Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.

Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

I'm sorry but  i think you're suffering from a bit of fanboy'ism here. The dialogue in BG2 is never better than DA, not in content and definatly not in execution. As for the cut scenes.....WTF? Seriously, how can u even compare?

It's called nostalgia, and JfBorrego has super high level fantasy tastes as he has already stated that ALL crpg fantasy writing is juvenile and trash.

I will cry for him....

Ahhhhh...

I'm sure the DA:Origins fan Fiction gang will too...

[JfBorrego]

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Beowulf1990 wrote...

JfBorrego wrote...

BG is very very good (I think it was better than DA: Origins).

Less crappy dialogue and FAR less craptastic cut scenes.

Unless the "story' was your main draw for DA, I think you'd like BG.

I'm sorry but  i think you're suffering from a bit of fanboy'ism here. The dialogue in BG2 is never better than DA, not in content and definatly not in execution. As for the cut scenes.....WTF? Seriously, how can u even compare?

It's called nostalgia, and JfBorrego has super high level fantasy tastes as he has already stated that ALL crpg fantasy writing is juvenile and trash.

What's wrong with adminitting that some people have "picky" tastes in fantasy writing and others generally like it no matter what?

All I'm arguing is that the wiriting in DA:Origins is probably on par with that of any other CRPG - stating that I generally find that to be very low shouldn;t be a flam-worthy offense...

[Revik]

IMO what you should do is rather than going fully retro. Try going backwards in time and see if you like doing that.

I would first try playing NWN2+Mask of the Betrayer. If you like that try playin KotOR. If you like that go to Arcanum(from the creators of Fallout FYI). If you like this go to BG1+2. Don't forget to play fallout 1+2.

All RPG's above I totally recommend.

If you like FPS RPG's like Fallout 3 you might want to try Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines (from the creators of Fallout FYI). If you like this and want to go more retro I would suggest trying Deus Ex (Part 1 only) and System Shock 2.

[LordPaul256]

I honestly mean this in the nicest way possible, but if you are a graphics fiend or weren't playing video games when BG2 came out, then you'll probably hate the look. I was raised on Super Mario on the NES, so the graphics still seem beautiful to me to this day, but I don't need things super shiny. Shiny is nice, but it's not everything. I'm basing this on my nephew's reaction.



That being said, it is an amazing game. Probably the most important RPG ever released for the PC, and an all time top 3 contender. It's only somewhat like DA:O. DA:O is like they took BG2's epic length, interesting party chemistry, & somewhat the fantasy setting (Forgotten Realms is not quite the same), and mixed it with KOTOR's three party system, environment interaction, and vocal cut scenes. Maybe a sprinkle of the Mass Effect codex and some other things as well.

[MikeWiz]

I'd recommend it. If you can get it to run on your PC. Sometimes it's a bit difficult to get into an older game when there are so many new games to play.

[Haexpane]

BG2 is one of the best games I've ever played, and I only just played it last year.



95% of anything I say "bad" about DAO is only because BG2 showed how great BW can make a game.



I really miss a 6 person party

[jawlz]

I should also say that the end of the expansion to Baldur's Gate II (when you're reading the ending biographies/epilogues of all your party members) is one of the VERY few times (if not the only time) that I can recall actually getting a bit choked up by a game. BG 2 was just an amazing experience, full of nothing at all but win.