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[Moondoggie]

silver-crescent wrote...

I love FF13 too. And if you think about it, there are A LOT of parallels between the FF13 and DA2 "situations".

Both took the respective series in new directions and were fairly experimental in some ways, both had some obvious flaws (just replace "linear" with "repetitive"). Both were well received by critics (but not as much as their predecessors), and both got some serious fan backlash, partly due too not sticking to the formula enough - a lot of people obviously wanted another Baldur's Gate/FF7.

And oddly enough, DA2 came out exactly 1 year after FF13 

I think that's the problem when a developer has such a long standing successfull formula. When you try anything new the fans more often than not hate it because they know what to expect with the regular formula and hate suprises.

[Archdemon Cthulhu]

Mirror's Edge. I realize its not hated or anything, but honestly? I feel the game is brillliant way above its 80 metacritic score or whatever it has and its a shame it didnt sell more.

[silver-crescent]

 Yeah but it does baffle me a bit that that happens, especially with FF fans. Each FF game is always quite different from the last, you'd expect people to be used to it after 13 entries, but nope. There are people still claiming that FF12 was the worst thing to ever happen to gaming too <_<
FF actually probably has the most segmented fanbase of any game series out there. I doubt there are a lot of people who actually enjoy all the games, especially with the 2 MMOs added to the mix.

[silver-crescent]

Archdemon Cthulhu wrote...

Mirror's Edge. I realize its not hated or anything, but honestly? I feel the game is brillliant way above its 80 metacritic score or whatever it has and its a shame it didnt sell more.

Mirror's Edge was REALLY good, but the "story" and the combat really brought it down. I wish they'd just taken the former further and gotten rid of the latter altogether.

[apunyfly]

Little King's Story. I bet none of you have heard of it, but it's brilliant, looks beautiful and has one of hte greatest gameplays and soundtracks in recent gaming history.
It came out in 2009, but it sold criminally few copies... Critics praised this game, but no one bought it...

[Moondoggie]

Archdemon Cthulhu wrote...

Mirror's Edge. I realize its not hated or anything, but honestly? I feel the game is brillliant way above its 80 metacritic score or whatever it has and its a shame it didnt sell more.

That game splits gamers down the middle people either love it or hate it. Even EA is split down the middle with doing a sequal. Some want to drop the franchise and the other half of the company is insanely passionate about the game and is fighting for the sequal to get greenlighted. Hopefully DICE can make a sequal that matches EA's aspirations for what the franchise could be and make a much better game.

[MrDizazta]

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Digimon World

[Druss99]

Moondoggie wrote...

Since we are going from underrated games to popular games that seem cool to bash for some gamers i'll throw Final Fantasy XIII in there. I can never understand the ammount of hatred it gets compared to some other Final Fantasy games. Has a great storyline and some great music and a neat little combat system. Plus its one of the more exciting turn based combat systems i've played usually they are very static and slow but this one moves really fast paced.

I think the majority of people are just people who jump on the bandwagon of hating XIII while humping the leg of FFVII and creaming over Sephiroth XD

You and your agenda against FF7 and all thats right in the world.

I hated FF13 for the same reason I hated FF8 and FF12. I found the characters and story to be awful with absolutely no redeeming qualities. A combination of bad VA, terrible dialogue and a story I just couldn't get into left me feeling cold and let down. I quite liked the gameplay and music, the setting was gorgeous and Lightning was ok in parts but good god the rest of the cast.....I'd kill them all given half a chance. The story may actually have been good but I dunno every time a cutscene started the only thoughts in my head were "SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!! If you say the word hero again I'm going to war with the Japanese over it!!"

[apunyfly]

FF12 pinched most of its ideas from an old PS1 game, never played it, but I guess it should be on this list : Vagrant Story, I think that's the name.

Oh, and LITTLE KING'S STORY !! Again. I can't help but feel warm and smile like a baby when I think of playing this game.

[Merci357]

Both are already mentioned, but regardless, I nominate Mirror's Edge and Alpha Protocol as most underrated games in recent years. Mirror's Edge is brilliant, and Alpha Protocol is a great game hidden under mediocre graphics.
Not exactly underrated, but at least sadly unkown outside of the german speaking region are the Drakensang games. Drakensang 2: The River of Time is a pure RPG gem.

I guess, in a few years, I could mention Dragon Age 2 here, as well.

[Moondoggie]

Druss99 wrote...

You and your agenda against FF7 and all thats right in the world.

I hated FF13 for the same reason I hated FF8 and FF12. I found the characters and story to be awful with absolutely no redeeming qualities. A combination of bad VA, terrible dialogue and a story I just couldn't get into left me feeling cold and let down. I quite liked the gameplay and music, the setting was gorgeous and Lightning was ok in parts but good god the rest of the cast.....I'd kill them all given half a chance. The story may actually have been good but I dunno every time a cutscene started the only thoughts in my head were "SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!! If you say the word hero again I'm going to war with the Japanese over it!!"

I figured Lightning would be something you like out of the game. She's just a female version of Cloud complete with a great deal of broodyness and learning a life lesson and growing up through it XD

I don't have an agenda against FFVII i just think the constant fanwank over it gets ridiculous and that it isn't any better than other games in the series.

[silver-crescent]

I might be alone in this, but out of all the FF games I played (3 (DS), 4 (DS), 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-2, 12, 13) 7 was probably my least fave. But I think it partially had to do with how, while 8 and 9 are still very much playable and still look good nowadays, 7 is just a mess. The blocks, the having to hold a button to walk, ugh.

[Druss99]

Moondoggie wrote...


I figured Lightning would be something you like out of the game. She's just a female version of Cloud complete with a great deal of broodyness and learning a life lesson and growing up through it XD

I don't have an agenda against FFVII i just think the constant fanwank over it gets ridiculous and that it isn't any better than other games in the series.

I liked Lightning because she occassionally seemed to be as annoyed by the rest of the characters as I was. Her broodyness was often comical.

Its the first game in the series alot of people played and the first RPG that alot of people played so it has the nostalgia factor.

[Leinadi]

I don't think Alpha Protocol is a perfect game by any means but it really bothered me that so many reviews and players just seemed to flat out miss the point of the game entirely. It's just a shame when I watch videos of people playing the game and they can't grasp the idea that you need to aim for a second or two to line up critical hits and so forth. Plus, the entire flow of information in the game that you may or may not uncover. But yeah, I guess it's just not a game for the masses, yet the PR was kinda trying for it.

Arcanum is certainly underappreciated I think, again, in spite of some of its flaws. It's a brilliant roleplaying game.

Mask of the Betrayer has a pretty strong following as well but I think often gets overlooked since it's an expansion. Understandable in many ways, but a shame nevertheless.

[HoonDing]

Two Worlds 1+2. Gothic 3. Risen. Divinity 2. Drakensang.

[Moondoggie]

Another one i just thought of Serial Experiments:Lain okay it's more of a visual novel than a video game but the storyline is brilliant and it has the most messed up ending to a video game i've ever seen.

[KenKenpachi]

Body Harvest on the 64. It was one of the biggest sleepers of all time, and is better than the vast majority of games that have came afterwards, and was a one of a kind game in and of its self.

[Drake Sigar]

I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but Alpha Protocol really is criminally underrated. It’s certainly up there amongst the best Western RPGs despite its flaws.

[Seagloom]

Moondoggie wrote...

Another one i just thought of Serial Experiments:Lain okay it's more of a visual novel than a video game but the storyline is brilliant and it has the most messed up ending to a video game i've ever seen.

It was probably based on the anime of the same name. One of the best series I have ever seen.

[MajorStranger]

Mirror's Edge: They tried something totally new and it was good, I hope to see a sequel one day.

[Fishy]

a game that i did not play

[Stagmar]

silver-crescent wrote...

I might be alone in this, but out of all the FF games I played (3 (DS), 4 (DS), 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-2, 12, 13) 7 was probably my least fave. But I think it partially had to do with how, while 8 and 9 are still very much playable and still look good nowadays, 7 is just a mess. The blocks, the having to hold a button to walk, ugh.

7 is almost my least favourite followed closely by 13. Only numbered FF I've played (1 (PS1), 2 (PS1), 4 (PS1), 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10-2, 11, 12, 13) that is worse is 8. As far as I've been able to tell my views on what ones were good and bad are kind of unusual. I know no one probably cares my ordering of the number Final Fantasy's from worst to best is 8, 7, 13, 10-2, 1, 2, 10, 4, 9, 12, 6.

As for other ones mentioned so far in this topic, I didn't really like Icewind Dale. I'm not really a fan of having to make a party of characters from scratch in that I like my party members to have personality without me having to make up that personality in my head. I can do it for a single character, but not when I have to do it for the party. I agree about Resonance of Fate. It had a pretty unique stroyline and interesting characters. I just wish more of the questions had been answered by the end. I don't have much of an opinion on Alpha Protocol. I picked it up during a Steam sale and never made it past the initial area. I just couldn't deal with the controls. Using the mouse causes the camera to be almost impossible to move if I remember correctly and using a controller makes all the controls reversed (like what it says should be the A button is actually one of the others like B,X,Y and moving the stick up makes him move backwards, left is right, etc.) I've read that if I get an adapter to use an actual XBox360 controller instead of an usb controller the problem goes away, but I don't feel like getting an adapter for one game. I didn’t know that Tales of Vesperia was underrated. I thought it sold quite well. I know I loved it. It was almost as good as Tales of Symphonia and Tales of the Abyss.

As for what games I think are underrated:
-.hack (I haven’t met anyone else who has played them. I personally think .hack//G.U. especially was great)
-Front Mission (mostly this is because of the horrible handling these have got outside of Japan)
-Shadow Hearts (my second favourite series)
-Shin Megami Tensei (they’ve become more popular because of Pesona 3 and 4, but for quite a while no body seemed to have heard of them which isn’t necessarily a bad thing given how the media reacts to some games)

[Shirosaki17]

FF13 and DA2 were awful.
I don't know what the deal with FF7 is. People either love it or hate it. Most people who hate it seem to just because of it's fan base and it being so popular.
I thought FF1 was awesome. It blew Dragon Warrior/Quest 1 and 2 away easily.
I just don't see why people like 9 so much. It was better than 8, but I cannot for the life of me remember what it's about, and I beat the game.

[88mphSlayer]

Fortlowe wrote...

Metroid Prime. A near masterpiece that wasn't advertised by it's publisher on an underpowered console. Damn I wish MS would just buy Nintendo.

hell no

anyways i'd go with Too Human, that game had a lot of fun stuff to do under the hood, in terms of dungeon crawler it's the most unique one i've played and overall to me was very replayable, the problem with that game is it needed to come out on PC and have an isometric view instead of the 3rd person setup they had in the game, it also needed better cutscenes and storytelling and some better level design, but it had a lot of potential for a sequel (too bad that Silicon Knights is doing X-men for Activision instead)

Modifié par 88mphSlayer, 14 avril 2011 - 02:51 .