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So... the Rachni Queen. It's gonna bite you in the behind! [Proof!]


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Zulu_DFA wrote...

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Ash was right that the Council would abandon humans. The Council claimed humans need to fix their own problems with the missing colonists.

The COuncil sends SHepard to his death fighting the Geth at the begginning of ME2.  Shepard was becoming a nuisance and no longer served their personal interests

Ash was right that the Alliance needs to strengthen itself and stop bending over for the Council.
In ME2 the Alliance can't properly act on the abducted Colonies.lack of manpower or overwhelming responsibility.

Well, and it seems she's going to get her "I told you so" moment about Cerberus in ME3.

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Me and TIM were starting to bond and Bioware just blew out the candle in our bromance

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Zulu_DFA

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jbblue05 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
Ash isn't politically correctImage IPB

Ash was right that the Council would abandon humans. The Council claimed humans need to fix their own problems with the missing colonists.

The COuncil sends SHepard to his death fighting the Geth at the begginning of ME2.  Shepard was becoming a nuisance and no longer served their personal interests

Ash was right that the Alliance needs to strengthen itself and stop bending over for the Council.
In ME2 the Alliance can't properly act on the abducted Colonies.lack of manpower or overwhelming responsibility.

Well, and it seems she's going to get her "I told you so" moment about Cerberus in ME3.

Which is going to suckImage IPB

Me and TIM were starting to bond and Bioware just blew out the candle in our bromance

Something tells me TIM has a very good reason for that.

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Opinions and assumptions are not facts nor proof.

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Proof? There is nothing in the original post that even smells like it. Who the writer is can be relevant to a story but may have nothing to do with what he or she writes about an allegedly evil species. Even if the writer gets the idea across that all rachni are evil in a convincing manner then all he could be doing was simply confuse the player. Maybe it was just an attempt to focus on the concept of genocide. We just don't know. ME3 will tell us whether the rachni are evil or not.

Whatever the reason, a lot of stories from BioWare set you on the wrong foot from time to time. It makes them more interesting.

So far all "important" decisions turned out to have no real impact. The effects were either cosmetic (like an e-mail to the Normandy or a dialogue line change) or at best a cameo (like Wrex - who would be replaced by another guy to make sure the Grunt quests would continue unaltered). That leads to believe that this is yet another of such decisions.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 14 avril 2011 - 03:49 .


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Rampant speculation and roundabouts.

I like it!

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If anything negative is going to be caused by the Rachni, it's probably going to be post-game (maybe epilogue or something).

The Rachni by their very nature can be very hard if not impossible to integrate into galactic community (no way to communicate with them unless you have a Queen in the Citadel..unlikely) and since they apparently breed very quickly, it would be hard to contain them in the long run. Unless they don't happen to need a lot of resources and space, not sure.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 14 avril 2011 - 04:02 .


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I hope that sparing the Rachni comes back to bite me in the butt - at least then one of my decisions would have actually mattered.

Modifié par Kijin, 14 avril 2011 - 04:01 .


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Kijin wrote...

I hope that sparing the Rachni comes back to bite me in the butt - at least then one of my decisions would have actually mattered.

This works best for me: If you kill something then it cannot bite you in the ass at a later time. So it is best to keep it alive. It's more fun and will get you more experience points later. ;)

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DTKT wrote...

Rampant speculation and roundabouts.

I like it!

That's the spirit!!

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kijin wrote...

I hope that sparing the Rachni comes back to bite me in the butt - at least then one of my decisions would have actually mattered.

This works best for me: If you kill something then it cannot bite you in the ass at a later time. So it is best to keep it alive. It's more fun and will get you more experience points later. ;)


I can imagine it now - it's the final epic battle between the Reapers and Sheppard's rag-tag army - and in the middle of the conflict, the Rachni show up and attack both sides.

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...
Ash isn't politically correctImage IPB

Ash was right that the Council would abandon humans. The Council claimed humans need to fix their own problems with the missing colonists.

The COuncil sends SHepard to his death fighting the Geth at the begginning of ME2.  Shepard was becoming a nuisance and no longer served their personal interests

Ash was right that the Alliance needs to strengthen itself and stop bending over for the Council.
In ME2 the Alliance can't properly act on the abducted Colonies.lack of manpower or overwhelming responsibility.

Well, and it seems she's going to get her "I told you so" moment about Cerberus in ME3.

Which is going to suckImage IPB

Me and TIM were starting to bond and Bioware just blew out the candle in our bromance

Something tells me TIM has a very good reason for that.


Poor, poor Zulu...

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jbblue05 wrote...

Ash was right that the Council would abandon humans. The Council claimed humans need to fix their own problems with the missing colonists.

The COuncil sends SHepard to his death fighting the Geth at the begginning of ME2.  Shepard was becoming a nuisance and no longer served their personal interests

Ash was right that the Alliance needs to strengthen itself and stop bending over for the Council.
In ME2 the Alliance can't properly act on the abducted Colonies.lack of manpower or overwhelming responsibility.


- The colonies were not in citadel space. If I go to another country with a few friends and we decide to establish a new, independent settlement claiming that everything within a mile around us is now ours, and then the police shows up, should I expect my country to bomb them? If war doesn't happen, is it reasonable to say that my country has abandon me?

- The council didn't know a collector ship would appear. They sent Shepard to fight Geth. Since Shepard had killed like 903480293487 Geth already, you can't really call it "sending her to her death".

- It's rather lack of jurisdiction. See the first point.

Modifié par Nyoka, 14 avril 2011 - 04:27 .


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Kijin wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kijin wrote...

I hope that sparing the Rachni comes back to bite me in the butt - at least then one of my decisions would have actually mattered.

This works best for me: If you kill something then it cannot bite you in the ass at a later time. So it is best to keep it alive. It's more fun and will get you more experience points later. ;)

I can imagine it now - it's the final epic battle between the Reapers and Sheppard's rag-tag army - and in the middle of the conflict, the Rachni show up and attack both sides.

But I agree with you about the feeling that none of such decions actually mattered. It's nice that the ME world is never true white or black, but that does not have to mean that decisions have no real impact. In the end it becomes a kind of a background noise that you will only notice when it stops. Oh... Shouldn't there be this lady at this spot? Ah... I must have killed the rachni queen. And you continue whatever it was you were doing.

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GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Poor, poor Zulu...

I am a victim of BioWare's plot holes... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

Comfort me immediately! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kijin wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kijin wrote...

I hope that sparing the Rachni comes back to bite me in the butt - at least then one of my decisions would have actually mattered.

This works best for me: If you kill something then it cannot bite you in the ass at a later time. So it is best to keep it alive. It's more fun and will get you more experience points later. ;)

I can imagine it now - it's the final epic battle between the Reapers and Sheppard's rag-tag army - and in the middle of the conflict, the Rachni show up and attack both sides.

But I agree with you about the feeling that none of such decions actually mattered. It's nice that the ME world is never true white or black, but that does not have to mean that decisions have no real impact. In the end it becomes a kind of a background noise that you will only notice when it stops. Oh... Shouldn't there be this lady at this spot? Ah... I must have killed the rachni queen. And you continue whatever it was you were doing.


I hope this changes with ME 3, I really do. ME 3 is supposed to be the last chapter in the Sheppard saga, which will hopefully mean that the Reaper threat will come to an end. This means that, if Bioware is given enough time, they could make our choices have a significant impact on the story. I don't think that every decision should matter - but certain decisions like the decision at the end of Legion's Loyalty Mission, sparing the Rachni or saving/destroying the Reaper station at the end of ME 2 should substantially change ME3. Those are not the only ones, obviously but they are the most important decisions in my eyes.

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I hope it does. That'd be awesome.

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I hope they punish Paragon in some ways because compared to my Renagade Shepard my Paragon one has always been proven right. From the Wrex to the CB from what we know thusfar about ME3.

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Elite Midget wrote...

I hope they punish Paragon in some ways because compared to my Renagade Shepard my Paragon one has always been proven right. From the Wrex to the CB from what we know thusfar about ME3.


Wrex can be saved with a renegade persuasion: www.youtube.com/watch . Nothing has bitten renegade or paragon shep in the ass in either me1 or me2

Modifié par Epic777, 14 avril 2011 - 05:40 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

I hope they punish Paragon in some ways because compared to my Renagade Shepard my Paragon one has always been proven right. From the Wrex to the CB from what we know thusfar about ME3.

letting wrex live isn't paragon, and just because Cerberus is trying to kill shepard doesn't mean that the collector base won't help stop the reapers

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Poor, poor Zulu...

I am a victim of BioWare's plot holes... Image IPB

Comfort me immediately! Image IPB


There, there Zulu. Here, take your teddy bear. You know it always makes you feel better with it's snow leapard skin.

Rub the poached fuzzy. Everything is alright.

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Elite Midget wrote...

I hope they punish Paragon in some ways because compared to my Renagade Shepard my Paragon one has always been proven right. From the Wrex to the CB from what we know thusfar about ME3.

If they went with this idea, paragons would be the only ones punished. It is a travesty that you and so many others think renegades are being punished for their choices. It's nonsense.

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Did you not play the same ME2 as I? Pretty sure my Paragorn had Cameo's coming out of his arse while my Renagede had... What did he have again?

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Well, it's happened. Zulu finally went off the deep end. $20 bucks says if we were to look at him on an average day he'd have white hair that looks like he just got shocked by lightning, and Christopher Lloyd eyes.

I love you, Zulu.

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Malanek999 wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...
Ashley always advises you against freeing the Queen.

No. Take her and Wrex.


Ashley won't argue with you if you decide to kill the queen. She makes one comment that this is the last of their species and leaves it at that.