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[Autoclave]

 In case you don't know what Deus Ex Machina is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina, it is a plot device whereby a seemingly inextricable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object.

Since the inception of Mass Effect, bioware repeatedly reinforced the idea how powerful reapers are.
Now that the seemingly long travel distance can no longer save galactic civilization, I basically see no plausible Science Fiction explanation how to deafeat the Reaper threat. 

You cannot win this war by killing some husks. You need to destroy the ships. And so far Mass Effect lore hasn't provided us with anything that can win us a full scale war. 

That is why I am afraid will get some Deus-Ex Machina, some reaper "switch off" button..

[Sphynx118]

"There wont just be a big reaper OFF-button that you need to press" - Casey Hudson from the interview in GI

[Kane-Corr]

No, Bioware made it apparent that at some point in the game....(middle to later half) we will KNOW or at least start to know how we can defeat the Reapers. We are just going to have to wait a little until the time is right. So...I'm not afraid.

[Autoclave]

May be I don't have good imagination, but I really cannot come up with something that will not feel like a deus ex machine.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

I anticipate a deus ex machina so when it does happen, I won't be surprised and disappointed, and when it doesn't happen, I can be excited.

[TomY90]

i can think of many ideas of doing in my head but i doubt any of them are what you call realistic for mass effect and would get people screaming bad ending etc but just have faith in bioware they are the best in the business for plots and stories they will come up with something that is logical and good not a cheesy way of ending the story

[eye basher]

probably good all time travel star trek style if so do we get a new ship cause i don't think the SR-2 upgrades came with a flux capacitor.

[Dante Angelo]

Only one thing can kill a Reaper and that's unity(not the ability)

[Da Mecca]

I just hope whatever it is makes some sense.

[TheConfidenceMan]

Shepard must find and awaken an ancient race of protectors.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory

[Rurik_Niall]

Just to be clear, do you mean an actual Deus Ex Machina or an Ass Pull? There's a bit of a difference. A Deus Ex Machina would be something like a new faction of ancient organics appearing out of nowhere and saving the day with little or no help at all from Shepard. An Ass Pull by contrast would be the Alliance whipping out some experimental new rifle that can magically destroy a Reaper with a single shot and handing it to Shepard.

I expect something more along the lines of a Chekhov's Gun, or possibly even an arsenal of Chekhov's Guns, a whole bunch of little things that weren't obviously important but their true purpose becoming clear at just the right time.

[Malanek]

I think it would be better if the story leads you down that path....and then it doesn't work. Forcing you to do it the hard way.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Nah, I expect neither an Ass Pull or a Deus Ex Machina. The way the GI interview sounds, my guess is that we'll face consistent defeat against the reapers until, after analysis of battles, tactics and technology, we discover an exploitable weakness. Not one that makes it EASY to kill Reapers, but one that at least gives us a fighting chance.

[KingNothing125]

TheConfidenceMan wrote...

Shepard must find and awaken an ancient race of protectors.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory

that is basically the definition of a Deus Ex Machina.

[KillerGuy3]

Sphynx118 wrote...

"There wont just be a big reaper OFF-button that you need to press" - Casey Hudson from the interview in GI

There wont be? aww man he just ruin my plan now humanity is lost...

[Legbiter]

A deus ex machina would be if say, a race of "good" organic spaceships just came out of the blue and defeated the Reapers.

We've seen some good Chekovs hanging prominently above the mantlepiece in acts I and II so no, I don't expect Bioware to pull a DEM on us.

Modifié par Legbiter, 14 avril 2011 - 12:33 .

[Rurik_Niall]

Rurik_Niall wrote...

A Deus Ex Machina would be something like a new faction of ancient organics appearing out of nowhere and
saving the day with little or no help at all from Shepard.

Legbiter wrote...

A deus ex machina would be if say, a race of "good" organic spaceships just came out of the blue and defeated the Reapers.

Get out of my head!

Modifié par Rurik_Niall, 14 avril 2011 - 12:28 .

[DrRedrum]

YES very yes.

I want some surprise as to how to beat them but I really don't a one hit KO like all terrible plots have.

[shnizzler93]

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

[KingNothing125]

Shoot, if a Thresher Maw can "battle" a Reaper, then I know the answer to the great Reaper question: Makos. Lots of them. War over, Humans win.

[Janus Prospero]

They use an enlarging ray on Shepard to make him/her gigantic. Then s/he takes them out with third person shooting.

[Trandoshan]

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

This.

[Bluko]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Nah, I expect neither an Ass Pull or a Deus Ex Machina. The way the GI interview sounds, my guess is that we'll face consistent defeat against the reapers until, after analysis of battles, tactics and technology, we discover an exploitable weakness. Not one that makes it EASY to kill Reapers, but one that at least gives us a fighting chance.

All Reapers have a thermal exhaust port (he he he) that if you fire a proton torpedo into will cause a chain reaction in their mass effect core, causing them to implode. Basically it'll be Star Wars/Battlestar Galactica x 100.

There has been some foreshadowing of this since Earth/Alliance forces are one of the few species to make use of Carriers, which probably means we also make heavy use of starfighters. So surprise surprise when we find out that the Reaper's biggest weakness comes from Starfighters. Afterall the Empire, I mean Reapers don't believe starfighters could pose any real threat to them.

While I'll look forward to some big fleet battles, I'm going to be a tad disappointed if it's possible for us to outgun the Reapers. I guess the hundreds of civilizations and alien species before were all too same and never did anything different. It's a bit hard to swallow that no aliens before had the means to fight back the Reapers, or that there wasn't a military empire strong enough to fight them. The Protheans were hella advanced, literally numbering in the trillions, with buildings and technology superior to our own. But look what happened to them. The only saving grace we have is that we still have control over the Relays, but you'd think the Reaper's would just invade the Citadel and solve that problem?

Either we get a Deux Ex Machina or we get the bad guys are purposely stupid so that we can win. Which is worse? Causing  really finding the Reaper's big weakness is about the same as finding their "off button". Or perhaps the Reapers are a bunch of braggarts, though Sovereign not only talked the talk, but walked the walk. Sovereign was the exception though I'm sure.

[Sphynx118]

Trandoshan wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

This.

Just wait untill they try to invade Akuze or Tuchanka. The maws will **** them up

[MarchWaltz]

TheConfidenceMan wrote...

Shepard must find and awaken an ancient race of protectors.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory

Hoping for this. Would be awesome.