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[BadgerladDK]

Whereto wrote...

Larg_Kellein wrote...

Hmmm, wonder how many minerals would be required to outfit the Normandy with a thresher maw launcher...

Well a start would be to collect a thersher maw... GL

It's worse than that... Need at least two Thresher Maws, and a suitable habitat to start a breeding program so we don't run out of ammo. No plan is perfect, though. I still see possibilities here...

[mmmu]

Deux ex machina is not necessarily a bad thing.

[Severyx]

The secret is a pyjack. I'll let you sit on that for a while.

[Aramintai]

I very much doubt that even with all forces combined the galaxy's species will be able to defeat the Reapers, who seem to be vastly superior technologically and by sheer number of battle ships. Just look at how many ships were lost to destroy a single Reaper. And there's a whole swarm of them coming in ME3. I think that deus ex machina will certainly be present in some form or another, be it some unexpected powerful allies, newly found/invented weapon of "DeReaperization" that will allow allies to get the upper hand, or some knowledge that convinces Reapers not to destroy organics.
My only hope that it won't steal the spotlight from Shepard - he\\she still has to play the key role, not some plot device. And, please, no viruses or microbes a la "War of the Worlds" and no benevolent beings of light from some higher plane of existence who can derez a Reaper as easy as pie. That would be just..very bad, to say the least.

Modifié par Aramintai, 14 avril 2011 - 12:39 .

[Whereto]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

I would actually be a little disappointed if the game really ended with a definite result concerning the Reapers.
This trilogy after all is about Shepard's story, not ultimately the Reapers. Who says the Reaper will be defeated in this very trilogy? What I want is Shepard to do the impossible and provide the Galaxy with a means to fight (note the "fight", not ultimately "defeat") the Reapers. Whether s/he even should survive said finale is not even decided in my own books, but I recon the Reapers being a force so experienced and technologically superiour that they shouldn't be defeated of the course of one and a half game.

I think that wouldn't give them their due as the excellent antagonists (if they even are as such) they are and is just too Hollywood'ish in my opinion.

By far the Reapers are one of the most believable threats in gaming history as far as I can tell and defeating them in one single game would be like if WW2 ended just after people decyphered the German encodings. It sure is a vital step, and surely Shepard would be able to provide such crucial steps forward, but it shouldn't make the ensueing war any easier in terms of fighting a superiour force.

I have to agree with the bold, i seriously dont see one game ending the reapers

[Splinter Cell 108]

I hope not. In my opinion the fight against the Reapers should be won normally and by normally I mean as in no superbombs, no weaknesses that can destroy the Reapers in one shot, no disabling buttons, etc. That's overrated and boring.

[Autoclave]

Whereto wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

I would actually be a little disappointed if the game really ended with a definite result concerning the Reapers.
This trilogy after all is about Shepard's story, not ultimately the Reapers. Who says the Reaper will be defeated in this very trilogy? What I want is Shepard to do the impossible and provide the Galaxy with a means to fight (note the "fight", not ultimately "defeat") the Reapers. Whether s/he even should survive said finale is not even decided in my own books, but I recon the Reapers being a force so experienced and technologically superiour that they shouldn't be defeated of the course of one and a half game.

I think that wouldn't give them their due as the excellent antagonists (if they even are as such) they are and is just too Hollywood'ish in my opinion.

By far the Reapers are one of the most believable threats in gaming history as far as I can tell and defeating them in one single game would be like if WW2 ended just after people decyphered the German encodings. It sure is a vital step, and surely Shepard would be able to provide such crucial steps forward, but it shouldn't make the ensueing war any easier in terms of fighting a superiour force.

I have to agree with the bold, i seriously dont see one game ending the reapers

If you terminate the reapers in ME3, there will be no major threats in any other post ME3 games. You will be fighting some merc groups and rogue organizations. That's just borring. 

[Reapersgonnareap]

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[Pwener2313]

Casey Hudson has said that ME3 will have an "X factor" that will be introduced and it will change and evolve or decay and fail depending on how the game is played and what choices are made.

It doesn't look like a Deus Ex Machine, more like a long term solution. Deus Ex Machinas don't evolve or change, they're just introduced and implemented.

[Aramintai]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Casey Hudson has said that ME3 will have an "X factor" that will be introduced and it will change and evolve or decay and fail depending on how the game is played and what choices are made.

That's not exactly what he said. He said that at first the fight against the Reapers will seem hopeless, but at some point an "X" factor will be presented which will give a reason to believe otherwise. Also he said that Shepard's plan to defeat the Reapers will start with some idea (probably - gather allies), then evolve and adapt to accomodate the information he\\she uncovers along the way.

So nothing he said eliminates the possible introduction to some deus ex machina along the way. For example, it may as well mean that during Shepard's missions to recruit races he finds a new unexpected ally (Rachni? Geth? Blue Energy Orbs?...), or some badass technology with which he\\she will equip those allies.

Modifié par Aramintai, 14 avril 2011 - 01:36 .

[BlackAdder117]

For all we know, the Citadel could be just one big huge 'suicidal' bomb.

You lure rhe Reapers to the Citadel, get one just in time...and... BANG!

No more Reapers...

[sponge56]

while a deus ex machina might be slightly disappointing, if handled well it might be good. After all, there's a deus ex machina in WW2, the atom bomb.

Modifié par sponge56, 14 avril 2011 - 02:50 .

[MajesticJazz]

Autoclave wrote...

 I basically see no plausible Science Fiction explanation how to deafeat the Reaper threat. 

. And so far Mass Effect lore hasn't provided us with anything that can win us a full scale war. 

Dark Energy?

[_mgd00]

I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!



More Serial than ever guys.

[VolusNamedBob]

Sphynx118 wrote...

"There wont just be a big reaper OFF-button that you need to press" - Casey Hudson from the interview in GI

That's a relief.

[Uszi]

Hopefully the battle between the Thresher Maw and the Reaper on Tuchanka will lead to the development of the Thresher Maw canon.

TheConfidenceMan wrote...

Shepard must find and awaken an ancient race of protectors.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory

So... a Deus ex machina?

MarchWaltz wrote...


Hoping for this. Would be awesome.

Disagree. 

[RTalon235]

TIM does point out that his science team found the ancient mass accelerator weapon. If I'm not mistaken, they traced it's shot trajectory and that's how they found the derlict reaper to begin with.

Problem is, with the reapers actually being planetside, I can't imagine them using it even if they figured out how.

[Uszi]

RTalon235 wrote...

TIM does point out that his science team found the ancient mass accelerator weapon. If I'm not mistaken, they traced it's shot trajectory and that's how they found the derlict reaper to begin with.

Problem is, with the reapers actually being planetside, I can't imagine them using it even if they figured out how.

If the reapers were theoretically cornered with super mass accelerators and were hiding on a planet to avoid being shelled, I would just fire on the planet.

Even if it was Earth.

[HunterX6]

TheConfidenceMan wrote...

Shepard must find and awaken an ancient race of protectors.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Klencory

thats what i thought too, but maybe is just a little lore thing that bioware made, and even if you had to find them some people will consider this a ex deus w/e, point is that if we dont win by space battle some people will be whining (like they always do) about being a "ex deus cry me a river" solution, i personally dont care as long as its awesome and amazing. but the being of lights would be quite a amazing thing to find. some ancient biengs created in the beggining of time. otherwise you can just try to win the war without searching for them, it should be a matter of choice.

Modifié par HunterX6, 14 avril 2011 - 04:15 .

[R3MUS]

Well, the Turians have developed a new weapon from the debris taken from Sovereigns corpse.

Thanix cannons, you use one of those against the Collector ship at the end, and it explodes kinda fast and easy. So i think the Thanix cannon technology can stop the Reapers.

With enough hits we will be able to take one down.

[Ahriman]

Will you be dissapointed if Reapers will be nerfed in order to be defeatable by hundred of dreadnoughts?

[Ahriman]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Define nerfed.

Sovereign was destroyed by simultaneous attack of it's avatar and itself. If single Normandy will be dangerous for a Reaper I will call it "nerfed".