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[Ahglock]

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

I face palmed so hard when I read that it became a back of my head slap.  It isn't that they floated that idea, but that they thought it was a good enough idea to show off to the press.  

[Ahglock]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

I face palmed so hard when I read that it became a back of my head slap.  It isn't that they floated that idea, but that they thought it was a good enough idea to show off to the press.  

We don't know however whether they meant a fullblown Reaper Dreadnought like Sovereign/Nazarra was, or a smaller kind, probably specialized in planetary warfare, because having a Reaper sweeptake an planet looks rather inefficient to me, something I'd guess the Reapers should be rather experienced with. Now a little Reaper designed to collct things planetside on the otherhand might very well be small enough to have trouble with a bif Thresher Maw and be big enough to be considered a rival by the latter.

It is still a big spaceship.  What is it doing anywhere near low enough when fighting ground forces for a worm to melee it.  And if you have the power to launch into space, fly at FTL speeds I don't see a worm pulling you down. It is as bad as when in various civ games a spearman would take down my fighter jets.  

[Customz]

BlackAdder117 wrote...

For all we know, the Citadel could be just one big huge 'suicidal' bomb.

You lure rhe Reapers to the Citadel, get one just in time...and... BANG!

No more Reapers...

This ^.
Have you ever noticed how the wards look like huge receptors, amassing all the energy (dark energy) at the tower in the presidium ring? The ultimate Chekhov's gun.
On a more serious note I hope it's not rachni and/or geth and/or baby giant terminator base.

[Savber100]

Kane-Corr wrote...

No, Bioware made it apparent that at some point in the game....(middle to later half) we will KNOW or at least start to know how we can defeat the Reapers. We are just going to have to wait a little until the time is right. So...I'm not afraid.

So... midway in the game, a sudden solution to the Reaper threat will suddenly present itself? That's totally not  deus ex machina. ;P

Ahglock wrote...


It is still a big spaceship.  What is
it doing anywhere near low enough when fighting ground forces for a
worm to melee it.  And if you have the power to launch into space, fly
at FTL speeds I don't see a worm pulling you down. It is as bad as when
in various civ games a spearman would take down my fighter jets.  

First, this has already been explained as CN have hinted that this is no ordinary Thresher Maw. From what we heard, this beast towers over the ordinary thresher maw.

Second from GI, it seems the Reaper was attacking a convoy that Shepard happened to be in and it was taken by surprise.

Third, who said the monsterous TM won? Read the GI article online.

Modifié par Savber100, 14 avril 2011 - 06:18 .

[Savber100]

Double Post

Modifié par Savber100, 14 avril 2011 - 06:16 .

[The Shadow Broker]

Of course, if suddenly GOKU appears and destroy all of the reapers by himself, would be dissapointing. Because i am specting an EPIC war to the end.

Deus ex machina tend to be the unluky solution to script fails.

[Ahglock]

Savber100 wrote...

Kane-Corr wrote...

No, Bioware made it apparent that at some point in the game....(middle to later half) we will KNOW or at least start to know how we can defeat the Reapers. We are just going to have to wait a little until the time is right. So...I'm not afraid.

So... midway in the game, a sudden solution to the Reaper threat will suddenly present itself? That's totally not  deus ex machina. ;P

Ahglock wrote...


It is still a big spaceship.  What is
it doing anywhere near low enough when fighting ground forces for a
worm to melee it.  And if you have the power to launch into space, fly
at FTL speeds I don't see a worm pulling you down. It is as bad as when
in various civ games a spearman would take down my fighter jets.  

First, this has already been explained as CN have hinted that this is no ordinary Thresher Maw. From what we heard, this beast towers over the ordinary thresher maw.

Second from GI, it seems the Reaper was attacking a convoy that Shepard happened to be in and it was taken by surprise.

Third, who said the monsterous TM won? Read the GI article online.

I read it in my magazine, I know what happened.  I don't care if it is the biggest thresher maw in the universe, it is still an epic fail of an idea.  It would be like if in a movie you had an elephant knock over a battleship, then explaining it by well for an elephant it was a really big elephant.  On top of being massively impalusible in the universe they created, It also feels like that lame george lucas crap he has been pulling in recent movies where big monster is chasing the heros then random other big monster suddently appears and eats the one chasing the main characters.  

[Savber100]

Ahglock wrote...

I read it in my magazine, I know what happened.  I don't care if it is the biggest thresher maw in the universe, it is still an epic fail of an idea.  It would be like if in a movie you had an elephant knock over a battleship, then explaining it by well for an elephant it was a really big elephant. It'll be more like a HUGE kraken trying to take down a battleship. On top of being massively impalusible in the universe they created, It also feels like that lame george lucas crap he has been pulling in recent movies where big monster is chasing the heros then random other big monster suddently appears and eats the one chasing the main characters.  

....Your analogy fails because a colossal TM vs. Reaper is nothing like an elephant vs. battleship. If this creature could eat freaking villages than I'm pretty sure it can put up a small fight against ONE Reaper. Have you never seen the sandworms in Dune? If Bioware is taking the TM concept from Dune then I'm positive that the sudden takedown (not K.O.) will have briefly surprised the Reaper which will allow it to be dragged down. You can compain how it seems implasuible in the universe which is tells me nothing because you're not the creator of the ME universe.

Besides, who said the TM won against the Reaper? The scene only indicated that the Reaper was taken by surprise and that didn't even seem to stop it.

Modifié par Savber100, 14 avril 2011 - 11:49 .

[lukex38]

it said in the article that the reaper gets taken down but then lasers and such start to shoot out of the ground sounds like the thresher maw just pissed it off and gives shepard or someone else enough time too kill it

[Therefore_I_Am]

Ahglock wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

I face palmed so hard when I read that it became a back of my head slap.  It isn't that they floated that idea, but that they thought it was a good enough idea to show off to the press.  

Funny because most of the people here and everywhere else are having an exact opposite reaction compared to yours. Also, the Reaper did not die, it was pinned to the ground, but did not die. Article said that lasers started to erupt from the ground soon after...

If you are getting worked up over something like this than I suggest you get some fresh air.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 15 avril 2011 - 02:19 .

[lolwut666]

Definitely.

Deus Ex Machina is used when the writer runs out of ideas.

[Soahfreako]

I would be able to stand it, if there was a HUGE loss for using the tactic. Like say they are able to hit the Reapers with the Sol system's Mass Relay and completely take out the system to take them out, along with millions of humans, I will be satisfied.

[Annihilator27]

Customz wrote...

BlackAdder117 wrote...

For all we know, the Citadel could be just one big huge 'suicidal' bomb.

You lure rhe Reapers to the Citadel, get one just in time...and... BANG!

No more Reapers...

This ^.
Have you ever noticed how the wards look like huge receptors, amassing all the energy (dark energy) at the tower in the presidium ring? The ultimate Chekhov's gun.
On a more serious note I hope it's not rachni and/or geth and/or baby giant terminator base.

I would use it.............

[XyleJKH]

I am sure it will be something similar but different from how halo 3 ended, in order to defeat the flood. Where as it will be something that is key, won't necessarily will be an off button, but something that will shift the balance significantly
It is going to be interested, I just don't understand all the negativity. I mean a colossal threshar maw fighting a reaper... thats f***ing awesome!
This is going to make me **** so much my wife will divorce me because she will think im cheating on her because I will have no juice left!

[MrDizazta]

Can the Deus Ex Machina be that the Normandy transforms into a giant robot with a burning sword?

[Fixers0]

No, that will not happen, from what i can make up out of the GI article, it's stricly firepower, you will recruit species that will involve a gameplay mechanic to see how many you have and how ''loyal' they are.

Deep plot isn't it.

[Ahglock]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

I face palmed so hard when I read that it became a back of my head slap.  It isn't that they floated that idea, but that they thought it was a good enough idea to show off to the press.  

Funny because most of the people here and everywhere else are having an exact opposite reaction compared to yours. Also, the Reaper did not die, it was pinned to the ground, but did not die. Article said that lasers started to erupt from the ground soon after...

If you are getting worked up over something like this than I suggest you get some fresh air.

Funny because my most people are different than your most people.  I know the reaper did not get killed, I read the article.  I am not getting worked up about it, but I still think it was an epic fail of an idea.  Or can I not talk about things I don't like on these threads without petty shots from people like you about me needing fresh air.  Something that used to be unstoppable, that flew through your ships of the line without scratching its paint gets pulled down by a big version of a creature you can and have taken out on foot with normal guns, and you don't see a problem with that?  It better be a really baby version of a reaper like someone suggested because if you ever saw how big just the normandy is I'd have a hard time believing a TM pulling that down without someone being asleep at the wheel.   Cool imagery should not trump making a good story.  This is why miranda can wear a catsuit in fights and nothing but a breather in space and toxic environments.  

[Therefore_I_Am]

Ahglock wrote...

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Just get a bunch of giant thresher maws to gobble all of the Reapers down...I mean, they've already confirmed one such 'battle'

I face palmed so hard when I read that it became a back of my head slap.  It isn't that they floated that idea, but that they thought it was a good enough idea to show off to the press.  

Funny because most of the people here and everywhere else are having an exact opposite reaction compared to yours. Also, the Reaper did not die, it was pinned to the ground, but did not die. Article said that lasers started to erupt from the ground soon after...

If you are getting worked up over something like this than I suggest you get some fresh air.

Funny because my most people are different than your most people.  I know the reaper did not get killed, I read the article.  I am not getting worked up about it, but I still think it was an epic fail of an idea.  Or can I not talk about things I don't like on these threads without petty shots from people like you about me needing fresh air.  Something that used to be unstoppable, that flew through your ships of the line without scratching its paint gets pulled down by a big version of a creature you can and have taken out on foot with normal guns, and you don't see a problem with that?  It better be a really baby version of a reaper like someone suggested because if you ever saw how big just the normandy is I'd have a hard time believing a TM pulling that down without someone being asleep at the wheel.   Cool imagery should not trump making a good story.  This is why miranda can wear a catsuit in fights and nothing but a breather in space and toxic environments.  

My most people are not taking things seriously. Plus you are overestimating the reapers by far, they overwhelm not by size or strength, but by sheer overwhelming numbers plus indoctrination, and we learned in the past that the individual reaper is not invincible... which in this you specifically would like them to be.
Soveriegn was just a Big MF'er, if you are going to compare him to every other reaper.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 15 avril 2011 - 04:23 .

[Skilled Seeker]

Love. A trillion voices crying out in ecstasy. Love will defeat the Reapers.

[Therefore_I_Am]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Love. A trillion voices crying out in ecstasy. Love will defeat the Reapers.

^^^ Marvin Gaye style... hehehh

[Avissel]

I dunno. I Think J.C. Denton could take Harbinger.

Not Alex though. He was lame.

[88mphSlayer]

Rurik_Niall wrote...

I'd call those McGuffins, not so much Deus Ex Machina. A Deus Ex Machina has to actually solve the problem, they only gave Shepard the information he needed, he still had to do it himself.

yeah true that's the word i was thinking of

anyways, just looking at video games alone - the most satisfying ones are always the ones where the player has to win the battle to save the day, i can't remember one i enjoyed where i didn't have to actually overcome some kind of great challenge against all odds at the end

[Ahglock]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...


My most people are not taking things seriously. Plus you are overestimating the reapers by far, they overwhelm not by size or strength, but by sheer overwhelming numbers plus indoctrination, and we learned in the past that the individual reaper is not invincible... which in this you specifically would like them to be.
Soveriegn was just a Big MF'er, if you are going to compare him to every other reaper.

Oi.  Again I am not getting worked up about this.  I just think it is really dumb. Can you understand that fairly basic concept.  And I don't know what the hell you are talking about with the reapers.  Every reaper example given was that they not only had numbers but that indiviudally were absurdly powerful.  We took down sovereign when we caused some kind of feedback when saren died while being directly controlled by Soveriegn which caused its shields to drop.  Until then, an entire fleet couldn't scratch it.    The other reaper was brought down by a super space cannon that created the great rift with a glancing blow after it shot through the reaper.  None of this screms TM's are a credible threat.