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[Shockwave Pulsar]

 Hi there,

the PS3 version of DAO is coming out tomorrow and I was going to buy it right away, but reading these forums you get the impression that the game is crap on consoles.
Can anyone who has the PS3 version confirm that ? I don't want to spent 60 € on it, if it really is that bad.
I could buy it for PC and play it on the XP partition of my MacBook Pro, if the PC version is really that much better.
I would rather not though, since I've always been a console gamer and have hated the keyboard and mouse control on pretty much every PC game I've tried ( not to mention crashes, patches, slowdowns and all that )
Maybe someone here has played both versions and can enlighten me pls ? 
Cause if the game is really that much better on PC ( I don't care about slightly better graphics ) in terms of gameplay and control, I might give playing with keyboard and mouse another chance.

Modifié par Balthamoss, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:14 .

[BluesMan1956]

Balthamoss wrote...

 Hi there,

the PS3 version of DAO is coming out tomorrow and I was going to buy it right away, but reading these forums you get the impression that the game is crap on consoles...

Yes, there is no shortage of PC owners who will tell you that.

According to the ign.com video review the graphcis quality from highest to lowest is PC-PS3-360

I am playing the 360 version because I don't have a PC that can run DA:O, among other reasons.
I am thoroughlly enjoying my purchase at full MSRP price and have no regrets whatsoever.  And I am supposedly playing with the poorest graphics of the three platforms - blown up to a 47" 1080p screen so I can see whatever graphical imperfections their may be.  I have noticed a few collision anomalies with dwarven beards disappearing into their chests and the fingers disappearing into the arm when arms are folded but that does nothing to hamper my experience.

[Fatalmephisto]

BluesMan1956 wrote...

Balthamoss wrote...

 Hi there,

the PS3 version of DAO is coming out tomorrow and I was going to buy it right away, but reading these forums you get the impression that the game is crap on consoles...

Yes, there is no shortage of PC owners who will tell you that.

According to the ign.com video review the graphcis quality from highest to lowest is PC-PS3-360

I am playing the 360 version because I don't have a PC that can run DA:O, among other reasons.
I am thoroughlly enjoying my purchase at full MSRP price and have no regrets whatsoever.  And I am supposedly playing with the poorest graphics of the three platforms - blown up to a 47" 1080p screen so I can see whatever graphical imperfections their may be.  I have noticed a few collision anomalies with dwarven beards disappearing into their chests and the fingers disappearing into the arm when arms are folded but that does nothing to hamper my experience.

Yappers the only thing that is pissing me off is the Memory Leak god i hate it.

[Haexpane]

The PC version has better graphics and better controls. There are also more enemies on screen at once.



PS3 version is by far one of the better PC to PS3 ports I've played. I went w/ PS3 because my PC is in the office not in the game room.

[Chromie]

Oh yes I hate that too!

[Fatalmephisto]

Haexpane wrote...

The PC version has better graphics and better controls. There are also more enemies on screen at once.

PS3 version is by far one of the better PC to PS3 ports I've played. I went w/ PS3 because my PC is in the office not in the game room.

Better Graphics Not by much at all, look here at all 3 versions of the game being played and you will see hardly no diffenence at all, minus that textures look a little more clear and that is it.

www.gametrailers.com/video/pc-ps3-360-comparison-dragon-age/58658

[Fatalmephisto]

Dammit sorry for the double post i timed out

Modifié par Fatalmephisto, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:34 .

[BooTheHamster1]

I posted a similar thread myself.



My main concern was the gameplay on PS3. Can you pause and micro manage the combat like you can on the PC and like I used to love doing on the old Baldurs gate series?



I know you cant zoom out to the 'Baldurs gate view' on PS3 but does the gameplay suffer badly or will I be able to live with it?

[Shockwave Pulsar]

I should maybe add that this will be my first western-type RPG, I usually only play japanese RPGs like Final Fantasy because I never liked the *top-down view and mouse-click * control style (eg as in Diablo ) that most western RPGs have. So if the PC Version is played like that I might just try the PS3 one first ( it seems to be real 3rd person from the videos I saw ).

But then again every one says that the console versions are so much easier and I find it very unsatisfying if a good game is too easy...

[timmah30]

I prefer the 3rd person as well. I also have the ps3 version as well. I was never a huge rpg guy to begin with, as i have said a couple times on these forums, but if games like DA:O are being made, i may just change my mind. I tried getting into the FF series but it just doesn't hold my interest. maybe because of the subjects i'm interested in. i prefer the darker subject matter rather than the sci fi thing FF is trying to do.
But back on topic its all a matter of preference. the pc has the top view and 3rd person view.
while 360 and ps3 have the 3rd person look.
Same story, good graphics, and fun to play no matter what system your playing it on. You can't really go wrong. And there really isn't that much difference overall.
Gamespot rated it the following
PC-9.5
ps3-9
360-8.5

So if 8.5 is the lowest score out of a possible 10, thats still great over all. Its not like the scrore dramatically dropped. and like one of the posters said, it was primarily on the graphics. But, personally, as long as a game looks and plays good, the only thing that matters is if you enjoy it.

Modifié par timmah30, 18 novembre 2009 - 09:58 .

[GravityParade]

Fatalmephisto wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

The PC version has better graphics and better controls. There are also more enemies on screen at once.

PS3 version is by far one of the better PC to PS3 ports I've played. I went w/ PS3 because my PC is in the office not in the game room.

Better Graphics Not by much at all, look here at all 3 versions of the game being played and you will see hardly no diffenence at all, minus that textures look a little more clear and that is it.

www.gametrailers.com/video/pc-ps3-360-comparison-dragon-age/58658

It figures you'd post a link to gamefailers. They're the biggest console/xbox 360 fanboy website on the internet. The console versions are not even rendering the game in 1080p. The graphics comparison from console to PC is therefore, in a completely different ballpark. We don't even need to get into the various topics about framerates and anti aliasing.

Modifié par GravityParade, 18 novembre 2009 - 10:03 .

[MyPonyRocks]

Playing PC I sadly find myself 90% of the time in over the shoulder (aka 3rd). Obviously you've got a bit more menu to dig through via a radial on a console, but it can't be a deal breaker or people would be crying to high heaven

[Piellar]

I'm another buyer of the PS3 version and I'm not regretting it at all. I suggest setting your Radial Menu button to "Toggle" instead of "Hold" so that a click of L2 effectively pauses the game, and then you can use L1/R1 to switch characters and order your folks around with minimal menu navigation. Pushing direction+confirm twice gets most actions done, so I guess it's not a big difference from click+click. The gameplay is truely well-adapted to console play, IMO. Even against a lot of enemies, I haven't experienced any noticeable graphic lag with my own party of four.

The only small rant I'd give the PS3 versions is that scrolling between the SELECT menu sections has a little loading time that's just a step from "quick" but noticeable nonetheless, due to loading 3D models, etc. As someone that consults the Codex everytime I learn a scrap of lore, it is a tiny downer.

Also, the environmental textures aren't as sharp as I'd like them to, but then I just stopped playing Demon's Souls which has very pretty ones (and was made specifically for the PS3), so I'm a bit biased. The character models with their armors and all are top-notch on PS3 too.

Globally, I promise your experience on PS3 will not suffer from your choice. Unlocking trophies is also a fun task, if you're into these things.

Modifié par Piellar, 18 novembre 2009 - 11:57 .

[ShifteBoy]

I prefer the Console version. It's a fantastic game either way.

[Fredescu]

Balthamoss wrote...
So if the PC Version is played like that I might just try the PS3 one first ( it seems to be real 3rd person from the videos I saw ).

The PC version can be played any way you want. The console versions are restricted to one view. With mod support (huge), and a better interface and controls, the console versions should be considered only as a last resort. If your PC can handle it, get that version.

Modifié par Fredescu, 18 novembre 2009 - 11:50 .

[Piellar]

I don't know about "last resort"... I don't want to start fires here but many people prefer the feeling of playing on their couches with a wireless controller rather than being bent over their keyboard on a so-so home office chair. Mod support is great and all, but with the wave of too many good games coming soon on all platforms I'm ready to bet a lot of us will move on after they have beaten the game once or twice. The interface is well-adapted to console play as I mentionned earlier and there's enough buttons on a controller to do everything intuitively without doing weird button comboes. You get 6 quickslots per character and no overhead cam, that's about the only way I feel the PS3/360 loses on the PC version.

[Seifz]

You only get six quickslots? Ouch! How do you live with only six quickslots?!

Anyway, the game is too pretty on my PC for me to play the console versions ever again. I tried playing on my pal's 360 and it was just icky.

EDIT:  Though, I've heard that it's much less icky on the PS3.  It might be fine on the PS3, if you can somehow live with only six quickslots and no mouse.

Modifié par Seifz, 19 novembre 2009 - 12:19 .

[Fatalmephisto]

Seifz wrote...

You only get six quickslots? Ouch! How do you live with only six quickslots?!

Anyway, the game is too pretty on my PC for me to play the console versions ever again. I tried playing on my pal's 360 and it was just icky.

EDIT:  Though, I've heard that it's much less icky on the PS3.  It might be fine on the PS3, if you can somehow live with only six quickslots and no mouse.

It's alot easier then it looks

[Piellar]

You just don't waste quickslots on sustained abilities. Since they are activated with two button presses from the radial menu, you just fire and forget them. Health poultices require a single press, other consumables two in the radial menu. On mage characters, you just put key rotation spells on quickslots, and for the situationnal ****s (immunity bubble, large AoE spells, etc), it's two presses in the radial menu. So you can have say Walking bomb, Grease, a fire spell, two other attacks/CC and a healing spell and there you have all you need for ass-kicking. And that's assuming you're actively controlling the mage, because if you're not you can just set up good tactics.

[mastorofpuppetz]

Piellar wrote...

I don't know about "last resort"... I don't want to start fires here but many people prefer the feeling of playing on their couches with a wireless controller rather than being bent over their keyboard on a so-so home office chair. Mod support is great and all, but with the wave of too many good games coming soon on all platforms I'm ready to bet a lot of us will move on after they have beaten the game once or twice. The interface is well-adapted to console play as I mentionned earlier and there's enough buttons on a controller to do everything intuitively without doing weird button comboes. You get 6 quickslots per character and no overhead cam, that's about the only way I feel the PS3/360 loses on the PC version.

6 slots? Thats not enough just for a low level mage. Anyway trying to say that is not a pain is trying to convince themselves of that. It is a shortcoming regardless.

I hate the ignorant, Couch argument, you know, PC's can hook up to TV's right? i play on my HDTV and wireless keyboard and mouse all the time, laying back quite relaxed. What with this hunchback comment? You think everyone who plays on PC hunches over the keyboard? My chair for when i am using the monitor I can lay back and use the keyboard and mouse fine.

The graphics are A LOT better on PC, not just slightly, gametrailers is the only sight that said the difference was small (They are major console fanboys), every other site notes the PC clearly ahead and its apparent right away.  i have a PS3, and PC, the difference is big.

The PC version can be played almost any way possible, Console versions are always restricted, thats why i game 90% of the time on my PC, versatility, choice.

Modifié par mastorofpuppetz, 19 novembre 2009 - 12:33 .

[MachDelta]

The radial menu is much easier to navigate with a controller than it is with a mouse. No, seriously. With a mouse you need some kind of feedback to tell where the cursor is relative to the wheel. With the controller I know to just jam it straight down for a quick-heal, or straight right for active abilities, etc. The important stuff goes in the quickslots, and everything else is through the wheel.



As an aside, does anyone else kinda wish they had made an R2+X button for just one more quickslot? It's not like you really need TWO attack buttons... just a thought.

[hunt908]

Balthamoss wrote...

 Hi there,

the PS3 version of DAO is coming out tomorrow and I was going to buy it right away, but reading these forums you get the impression that the game is crap on consoles.
Can anyone who has the PS3 version confirm that ? I don't want to spent 60 € on it, if it really is that bad.
I could buy it for PC and play it on the XP partition of my MacBook Pro, if the PC version is really that much better.
I would rather not though, since I've always been a console gamer and have hated the keyboard and mouse control on pretty much every PC game I've tried ( not to mention crashes, patches, slowdowns and all that )
Maybe someone here has played both versions and can enlighten me pls ? 
Cause if the game is really that much better on PC ( I don't care about slightly better graphics ) in terms of gameplay and control, I might give playing with keyboard and mouse another chance.

I Have the ps3 version and I will tell you what, this game is amazing no matter what you play it on, however...I can imagine the combat system for the pc would give you a much needed ege when fighting certain mobs.  In retro spec, I wish i had gotten it for pc, but the ps3 version has proven to be just as addicting as I had hoped.

[Fredescu]

Piellar wrote...

I don't know about "last resort"... I don't want to start fires here but many people prefer the feeling of playing on their couches with a wireless controller rather than being bent over their keyboard on a so-so home office chair. Mod support is great and all, but with the wave of too many good games coming soon on all platforms I'm ready to bet a lot of us will move on after they have beaten the game once or twice. The interface is well-adapted to console play as I mentionned earlier and there's enough buttons on a controller to do everything intuitively without doing weird button comboes. You get 6 quickslots per character and no overhead cam, that's about the only way I feel the PS3/360 loses on the PC version.

You can play PC games on a couch too with the right set up. "Bent over" and "bad chair" are tired arguments. If you can't sort out your own ergonomics, that's not a fault of the platform.

From the get go mods will give you storage in your camp, which is handy even if you do have Warden's keep, difficulty balancing if you're finding the game too easy, respeccing, dexterity fixes, additional loot, and a few other things. This will no doubt ramp up quickly with texture mods and additional content. There is no downplaying mod support.

I have no doubt that some people prefer playing on consoles for a whole host of reasons. I'm sure it is a fine game on consoles too. If you're up in the air enough to ask about it on a forum though, the answer is simple. The PC version is far superior.

MachDelta wrote...

The radial menu is much easier to navigate with a controller than it is with a mouse. No, seriously. With a mouse you need some kind of feedback to tell where the cursor is relative to the wheel. With the controller I know to just jam it straight down for a quick-heal, or straight right for active abilities, etc. The important stuff goes in the quickslots, and everything else is through the wheel.

The PC version doesn't have a radial menu.

Modifié par Fredescu, 19 novembre 2009 - 12:35 .

[mastorofpuppetz]

MachDelta wrote...

The radial menu is much easier to navigate with a controller than it is with a mouse. No, seriously. With a mouse you need some kind of feedback to tell where the cursor is relative to the wheel. With the controller I know to just jam it straight down for a quick-heal, or straight right for active abilities, etc. The important stuff goes in the quickslots, and everything else is through the wheel.

As an aside, does anyone else kinda wish they had made an R2+X button for just one more quickslot? It's not like you really need TWO attack buttons... just a thought.

BWHAHAHAHA, lol, no, it is not easier, lmao. The thing is, PC does not have the radial wheel, it has a much bettr Interface as it is.