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[AshleyS3]

I actually thought the Fenris scene was really good because it was genuine.

With my first Hawke, Fenris had left before this quest, Carver was dead, and Bethany was in the circle. Now her mom was dead as well and she felt alone. She also blamed herself a bit for her mother's death so she choose that "Is it my fault?" option with Fenris who of course gave the "You are looking for forgiveness but I am not the one who can give it to you" response.

This didn't really help her feel better but I thought it was a genuine response and fitting for his character and the sense of abandonment Hawke felt after he said that and left was very real. It was also something to think about, not just mindless comfort.

The second go-round I choose the "Tell me anything" option and I didn't quite like it as much even though it was a bit kinder. I just like how Fenris isn't afraid to be real and direct even when everything has gone to hell.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Saephy wrote...

You don`t get that dialogue with Fenris at all.
He shows up says "I don`t know what to say, but I am here", at which point you can tell him to leave, blame yourself for your mothers death, ask about his mother or request that he say something, anything.

If you blame yourself for your mother dying, he`ll say "You´re looking for forgiveness, but I´m not the one who can give it to you".

Ass. But no more than sarcastic Hawke's 'it's late' comment in the chantry.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

HogarthHughes 3 wrote...

How can people blame magic for Leandras death? Sure it could make sense in the same way Gamlen blames you if say you were too slow; he's just angry and upset, not actually that mad at you. Any psycho with a knife and a bit of coin could have had those flowers and a note sent, lured her out to where he could pose as some injured dude and get her to take him back to his hideout where he could kill her. True, he wouldn't have been able to keep her alive as the corpse bride, but he could have desecrated her corpse all the same.

*Edit - To remain on topic, Merrils response about the alternative to the Maker didn't seem too immature to me, but perhaps thats just my bias.  I still don't know what she said in the first line though, haven't bothered to look it up.

I put 3 sovereigns down that he actually mind-controlled her. I doubt Leandra is the one to walk into dark alleys.

[ReallyRue]

My Hawkes tend to blame themselves. Especially the one who lost her father, mother, Carver, AND Bethany.
Although picking the 'maybe magic is bad' option with Anders just makes me all wibbly inside. Considering how he feels about magic and mages, it was just so good of him to sit there and comfort Hawke regardless, without turning it into some 'how can you blame mages?!' thing.

[Sabariel]

I looked up all the LI comfort scenes on YouTube (as I haven't completed a romance yet) and I found them all to be quite... awkward.

[Rifneno]

Saephy wrote...

Well to be fair, you do have to ask him about his mother for him to give you that line, so it´s actually Hawke who´s deflecting, and he`s picking up the cue.

My initial impression was that he is trying to err... look on the bright side, in an attempt to "cheer" Hawke up.

Ahh.  My mistake then, I take back the "twisting it to be about him" remark.  Still think the "forgiveness" one was way off base but I suppose it's easily attributable to his past.  I doubt Danarius sent him to finishing school.

ReallyRue wrote...

My Hawkes tend to blame themselves. Especially the one who lost her father, mother, Carver, AND Bethany.
Although picking the 'maybe magic is bad' option with Anders just makes me all wibbly inside. Considering how he feels about magic and mages, it was just so good of him to sit there and comfort Hawke regardless, without turning it into some 'how can you blame mages?!' thing.

Agreed, very much so.  A lot of people think Justice turned him into a monster, but it's clear there that there's still a good man underneath the quasi-demon.

[Macha'Anu]

I liked Fenris' one, because he could've very easily gone on yet another rant about the evils of magic. But instead he's clearly there only for Hawke, and genuinely tries to say something to comfort you.
The dialogs that end up with him sitting beside Hawke and saying it's better if not too many words are spoken in a time like this are very touching.

(I know this is old but I want to say I agree. Fenris has lived in actual hell his entire life and for the first time in his life he feels something he's never felt before. Love. And it scares him, and while seeing the person he feels that foreign emotion for is hurting he just wants to be there. Even if he doesn't know how to comfort. I like to rp thst when he sits down and says "no words will comfort you" he just sits withave her. Maybe holding her, as she grieves. Fenris is my favorite romance simply because it's so much more complex than the others. It's like the Solas romance (though they dropped the ball on it horribly) not at all about the sex and more about the fear of letting the guard down and loving someone ) Sorry for necroing the thread.

[straykat]

I always liked this moment too. You can reiterate it in an Anders romance as well. It makes even more sense why he might've gone crazy.

 

edit: Wait, you mean the Anders moment. I thought you meant the stuff with Gamlen.

[Catilina]

That would be because Magic (specifically Blood Magic) was responsible for Leandra's death.

If he was not a mage, if he were not studying blood magic, he wouldn't have tried to assemble corpses to reanimate his dead bride. Sure he was insane and insane people can do bad things without magic. But in this particular instance it was precisely dabbling in the dark arts that caused him to do what he did.

The entire situation shows exactly what trouble mages can get into if they are free of chantry oversight. So it very much shows a need for the Templars. (Which is not the same as endorsing their abuses)

The insanity manifests itself in many ways. If Quentin would not know blood magic, his madness found a different way. The weapon is not responsible for the murder.

[straykat]

That guy was definitely a loony. I'm sure blood magic was only one of his problems.

[Illegitimus]

Oh lord, tell me he doesn't come across like it sounds in text.  Hawke's mother is brutally murdered and he twists the conversation to be about him? 

 

Be fair.  If you take that dialog option you have already shifted the conversation to be about him.