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[naughty99]

FEGuy wrote...

Naughty, I got a feeling its going to be even worse when that new Elder Scrolls comes out.

You ain't lyin.

There are certainly some hardcore nostalgia goggles wearing TES fans. And the level of excitement for Skyrim is so high people are going to be disappointed if it turns out that the game was not beamed directly from Jesus into Todd Howard's mind..

Modifié par naughty99, 15 avril 2011 - 12:26 .

[Grovermancer]

Seena wrote...

Eurypterid wrote...

Not everyone that posts criticism or their dislike of the game is a 'hate-mongering troll'.

True, but one has to ask, why does the OP feel a need to apologize for liking the game?

That alone says something.

Yes, it says they know the game is inferior, chalk full of flaws, but they like it anyhow. 

It's also a subtle way of stifling discussion or criticism of their opinion, cause then you're the big-bad meanie for ruining candyland.
Or maybe cause they wanted to lay out some flame-bait, and start more bickering.  Ironic, huh?



Or maybe they're just playing the victim, like the poster seems to be:

FEGuy wrote...

Same here. I had too apologize for loving it too. Of course, I got ragged for it but,oh well.

FEGuy wrote...

Looks like we are going to continue to get ragged for loving the game guys.

FEGuy wrote...

Now you know thats not going to happen Eterna5. They cant help themselves.

FEGuy wrote...

Why is he apologizing? Because he's
probably like me, he knows he's going to be ragged for it and that alone
is not right. What is so wrong about liking this game?

FEGuy wrote...

I think naughty hit it right but, my
question is; why cant I say I enjoy playing this game without someone
throwing it back in my face with some rude remark? Its like Im saying
something bad about them personally.

For the record, I'd give DA2 a 6.5.  Could have easily been much better.

I'd say that's "moderate" enough.  And generous enough to this game.

Modifié par Grovermancer, 15 avril 2011 - 12:00 .

[plokoon9619]

I am glad you like DA2, but however you will hate DA3 if Bioware goes back to true RPG style instead of hack n slash with twilight love stories, and a unfinished ending.

[FabianGrey]

mrcrusty wrote...

Meh. I don't like the game personally, but there's nothing wrong with others enjoying the game.

It's how I feel with Alpha Protocol. I enjoy the game but recognise objectively, that there are issues and problems with it. Not perfect, far from it, but enjoyable. I'm sure many Dragon Age 2 fans feel the same way about this game. Besides, it's not like it makes the games I enjoy worse.

Exactly. And people seem to be caught up in an absolutistic "either or" kind of scenario, where there isn't room for anything other than ultimate praise or ultimate trashing.

It's ok to enjoy a game, like say Alpha Protocol, even love it, and still not close your eyes to the problems the game might have - bugs, graphics, what have you. The story might simply appeal to you so much that the apparent flaws of the game were merely initial obstacles to overcome.

This doesn't mean that these flaws shouldn't be addressed and brought to attention!

Modifié par FabianGrey, 15 avril 2011 - 12:02 .

[DraCZeQQ]

mrcrusty wrote...

Meh. I don't like the game personally, but there's nothing wrong with others enjoying the game.

It's how I feel with Alpha Protocol. I enjoy the game but recognise objectively, that there are issues and problems with it. Not perfect, far from it, but enjoyable. I'm sure many Dragon Age 2 fans feel the same way about this game. Besides, it's not like it makes the games I enjoy worse.

There is a difference between AP and DA2 ... AP was Obsidians experiment (new IP, new ruleset, new engine, etc.) on the other hand with DA2 Bioware had everything + feedback from DA:O flaws ... not to mention fact that they butchered lore in DA2 and copied ideas from AP ...

* smallprint - yes im Black Isle / Obsidian fanboi 

Modifié par DraCZeQQ, 15 avril 2011 - 12:48 .

[Ballaorf]

Woah this thread took lots of turns! lol I posted it before I left work and just got home after class and see I have a lot to answer

Yes, I was using "Sorry," as an expression - Sorry (literally) for the confusion. No, I was not trying to "start something" by doing so. I just saw a lot of negative threads about the game (with some pretty mean posts) and I thought it would be nice if the devs saw a thread praising their work.

Honestly, I LIKED Origins, but something about it always made me feel a little disconnected from it. I thought I would like it more than ME2, but I ended up liking ME2 way more - which is weird for me because I'm not typically into Sci Fi or FPS.

Everwarden wrote...
Hello, Mr. Laidlaw.

I do not know what that means, sir.

Bostur wrote...
Don't be sorry. What are your most memorable moments so far?

Gosh, the first time I got to experience combat as a rogue, I had to pause the game! So much more to do than the original, feels more twitchy. The combat animations are super smooth and I am just loving the skills!

DraCZeQQ wrote...
Let me ask you one thing. Would you like the game MORE if it would have no recycled areas, less repetetive combat, more choices that have impact, more companion interaction, non-combat quests, riddles, puzzles and story that dont ignore lore?

In order of asking:
Probably wouldn't affect my enjoyment.
I don't find the combat repetitive, I enjoy it.
Nah.
YES! Companion interaction are my favorite parts of Bioware games. So far I'm not disappointed by the amount in DA2, but I can never get enough! I often have to go back and replay BG 1 and 2 just because I MISS the characters, if you can believe that!
Hm.. I can't say yet. Right now, I'm enjoying the new quest structure, but I don't know if the balance changes significantly in later acts.
Honestly, lore isn't my thing, so I probably won't even notice if any of the riddles / puzzles / story details break lore. And if the question was "Would [I] like more puzzles and riddles" - nah.

[Bostur]

Ballaorf wrote...
Gosh, the first time I got to experience combat as a rogue, I had to pause the game! So much more to do than the original, feels more twitchy. The combat animations are super smooth and I am just loving the skills!

Yeah rogues fit well into the feel of the game. They have some smooth animations, and the flow and pace seems to match that of combat in general.

Having played a rogue on both DAO and DA2, they did get some significant loving. Melee rogues felt a bit awkward in DAO.

[nekhbet]

I liked DA:O, I liked every BioWare RPG I ever played (well, NWN was a bit bland storywise). I liked DA2, as well. Must be something wrong with me.

[PlumPaul93]

Eeh it's alright, gets insanely boring somewhat by act 3, way below the quality of DAO and the ME series. But it's decent enough.

[Teredan]

I personally find DA2 very average. It's also extremely hard to like when doing multiple playthroughs because so many things stay the same...

Modifié par Teredan, 15 avril 2011 - 02:22 .

[Cutlass Jack]

FEGuy wrote...

Naughty, I got a feeling its going to be even worse when that new Elder Scrolls comes out.

It will be worse but on the ME3 forums that comes out at nearly the same time.

[Volourn]

"Lowest rated Bioware game of all time - just throwing that out there ^.^"

Please don't be a lemming troll. If I based my likes and dislikes on what toehrs liked I'd be hating some awesome games and liking games people hate.

Unpopular Games I Like: ARC, BL, and TW

Popular Games I Dislike: ES series and TW

[Cobrawar]

Ballaorf wrote...

I just picked up DA2 a couple of days ago and I'm loving it. I love the combat change, so far I'm loving the character interactions, the banter, the dialogue, no more awkward-PC-Stare... I am, honestly, enjoying it more than DA:O.

So, here's one happy Bioware fanboy. Thanks for the great game, guys!

you proably eat garbage lol

[Monica83]

mh.... if you like it its ok..... but..... i really think is a garbage sequel

[Tirigon]

ReallyRue wrote...

Good for you. I like it too.
Sometimes I feel bad for Bioware having to read everyone's complaints.

They wouldn´t have to if they had made a good game.

That being sad....


STOP APOLOGIZING FOR LIKING A GAME, EVERYONE! IT´S A MATTER OF OPINION!!!!!!!



Edit: And with regards to some posts above mine: Stop insulting others. There is nothing wrong with having different tastes, and - BIG SURPRISE!!!! - that stays true if it´s bad tastes we´re talking about.

Modifié par Tirigon, 15 avril 2011 - 03:26 .

[John Epler]

Considering the number of complaints I see about the 'biodrones' or 'fanboys' shouting down everyone with a negative opinion by labeling them as a troll, it's rather disheartening to see the opposite happening here.

If you don't share someone's opinion, that's fine, but insults and attacks are, and always have been, completely unacceptable.

Civility and politeness cost you absolutely nothing.

[Siansonea]

I like DA2, I'm on my third playthrough. Each playthrough has been different enough that it keeps me interested. I didn't ever really get into Origins though, I started a mage playthrough with it, and the graphics and silent protagonist made me put it aside. I am definitely not 'old school' when it comes to games. I like a cinematic and emotionally engaging experience, and for the most part I would say that Dragon Age 2 delivered that for me. There is certainly room for improvement and expansion, of course, but the same could be said for any game. I like what's there, even if there were a few WTF moments here and there. There were several of those moments in the Mass Effect games too, and I loved those games.

The bottom line is that although we are all playing the same games, we are not all playing the same games. Yeah, we have the same discs/downloads, but the experiences, what we think and feel as we're playing, varies from person to person. Yes, that's obvious, but when we start berating people for not seeing their point of view, we should really be looking at ourselves because we are clearly not seeing their point of view either. We should be saying "I liked this, but I didn't like this" without feeling like it's a personal attack if someone has the complete opposite opinion/experience.

[LeBurns]

It is a little odd. I don't like DA2, but then I don't like liver and onions either. But you know what, I can accept that some people do. And you know what, I'm never going to talk someone out of liking liver and onions if they do. Fact.

Now I do want to make my opinion heard however, in hopes that what the loyal fanbase wants really does matter to BW. Just maybe, maybe they mean it. Enough people like me want a change for the next game and we just might get it. If I never said anything I have no one to blame but myself if every game BW makes from here on out is just like DA2.

[doloreg]

This is the internet, with freedom of speech and complete anonymity. Of course people will be offensive if it comes without consequences.
But then again i don't like this, and salute people like trigon, who, despite their obvious hatred for the game, don't attack those who like it, and respect the difference of opinions.
It shows that while they have the ability and "reason" to bash people, they behave nicely. Too bad many here can't behave like that.

[brgillespie]

The bottom, bottom line is that a lot of people need to get laid. A perceived disappointment in a game is nothing to rage about.