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Mixed signals with Liara?


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Inazone

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I just finished my first play-through of ME1 (hey, I was late to the ME party) a few days ago, and it seemed that in terms of the romantic angle, I was bound to end up with Ashley.  I was friendly to Liara, but I'm 99% positive that when she asks about having a relationship with Ash, I went with the "That's private" response.  Well, apparently, "That's private" translates to "Open for business" in the asari language, because I don't recall Ash ever saying much more to me than the bit about cleaning rifles . . . but "I'd like to talk later."

I've tried restoring back to previous saves, to figure out at what point I unwittingly started down the path of romancing Liara, and I have yet to find it.  I ended up following through with the sex scene with Liara, but I honestly was still expecting another opportunity with Ash up until that point.  Once I realized that the Ilos mission would be the grand finale, I restored to my last save before the sex scene, turned Liara down, and finished the game without.  However, I did get the Paramour achievement, so presumably it means Liara was still my romantic interest.

So, did saying "That's private" end up being a positive response to Liara?  I still can't think of any other dialog option where I was in any way vague.  

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Do you remember if, just after recruiting her, you spoke to Liara before speaking to Ash? If you do so, Ash gets the wrong impression and thinks you might have been hitting on Liara - although you can correct her when you speak to her. If you didn't speak to her soon enough, she might have given up.

Its been a while since I played ME1, but it might have been something like that - you simply didn't speak to Ash frequently enough. (Note: characters get new dialogue after each mission, storyline or not). Otherwise... What was the last thing you said to Ash before she stopped talking to you?

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Golden Owl

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I'm wondering if your game glitched...Liara asks straight out if you are interested in her...my Shep chose the just friends response and that ended anything with Liara. Not romancing Ash is somewhat harder, if you tell Liara you just want to be friends, the game defaults you to have a relationship with Ash...the only way to avoid relationship with Ash is to not speak with her after you turn Liara down.

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Talking with them seems to instantly lock you into romance, its one of the major flaws with ME1 imo. I don't recall real life being such that friendly chats with no flirting or reception to their flirting gives signals that you are interested.

Only one playthrough I didn't romance anyone, and that was because I didn't talk to anyone really.

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The weird thing was that, when I restored to a point right before or after the Citadel "lockdown" and with Ilos as my only storyline mission left, Ashley said something indicating that our romance was still on, but I never got that response on my first play-through . . . and I religiously talked to all crew members after every mission.

It's definitely possible that I talked to Liara before talking to Ashley after initially recruiting her, when she went to sickbay for the first time, but I apparently overwrote that save, and don't recall how that conversation went. However, having the above results with Ash around the time the Normandy was grounded, I have this feeling that something happened later on, where I missed an opportunity to talk to Ash.

Not the end of the world, but considering that I found Liara rather annoying, pursuing a romance with her was not one of my priorities. I guess my Paragon politeness was more than she could resist.

If I turned her down (for sex) at the very end, before the Ilos mission, how will that carry over into ME2?

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 Read this post - it should help answer your question.

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Golden Owl wrote...

...the only way to avoid relationship with Ash is to not speak with her after you turn Liara down.

Or leave her on Virmire.

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I wouldn't know why you'd want to turn down a romance with Liara but I guess it is your choice... To avoid a romance with Liara answer 'I just want to be friends' or 'you were wrong' when she asks you about your feelings. You'll have to start another playthrough as she'll ask you during your 2nd conversation with her.

As for Ashley, turning her down is a little more tricky. During her first real conversation after you aquire the normandy she'll talk about being concerned about garrus and wrex having full access to the ship. Replying with 'you're out of line' at this point will stop any chance of romance with Ashley. And of course if you are in a semi romance with both of them at the same time, they'll confront you in the comm room after your next plot world (feros, noveria, therum, virmire) and force you to choose one. You'll automaticly end the romance with the other.

That's about all I can think of at the moment. Hope it helps.

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Mr Zoat wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

...the only way to avoid relationship with Ash is to not speak with her after you turn Liara down.

Or leave her on Virmire.


I do that too...:devil:

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there should be no problem. if you talked to both before starting the romance of either of them they will both ask about the other one. when liara asks and you want to be with ash say somert like she's special ( only been with liara 2 times so i cant remember exactly what she says).

but once i hit on liara first then didn't manage to dodge ashley and was forced to choose as they found out i was double dating.

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Liara owns Ash =)

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Inazone

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If I don't "consumate" the relationship with Liara, does that leave me in any way better off for ME2? Or is it potentially better to pursue NO relationship? I've deliberately avoided reading anything about ME2 since I'll probably get it in a couple of months, and don't know if I want to import my existing male Shepard, or replay ME1 as a female.

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Inazone wrote...

If I don't "consumate" the relationship with Liara, does that leave me in any way better off for ME2? Or is it potentially better to pursue NO relationship? I've deliberately avoided reading anything about ME2 since I'll probably get it in a couple of months, and don't know if I want to import my existing male Shepard, or replay ME1 as a female.


As a Liara fan I'll say ME2 feels nicer if you romance Liara in ME1. As Liara will have a large role in ME2's plot (without spoiling anything). You get some extra dialogue during the game (though not too much) but you'll be rewarded with some great scenes and dialogue in the lair of the shadow broker dlc (A must have dlc for ME2).

There are no consequences for not romancing anyone in ME1. You can always romance other characters in ME2, even though you can cheat on your ME1 LI in ME2. As of yet there are no consequences for doing so though BioWare has stated it COULD have consequences in ME3.

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It has always been my understanding the not "consummating" the relationship doesn't end it, it just says not right now, don't want to be distracted, and thus you are still technically in a ME1 relationship. If you don't have to have a carry over relationship you must stop the romance early or leave them on Virmire(Ash/Kai). There isn't a released definite consequence for "cheating" on a ME1 romance because ME3 hasn't been released or talked about by the Devs, but they have said in the past that there will be a consequence. We will just have to wait and see if anything actually happens. You do get a few lines in ME2 from Liara if you cheat on her in the LotSB.

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maybe its the dialogue choices you chose right after talkin to Anderson when you finished Eden Prime, on my 2nd playthrough I Played a renegade nd wasnt able to romance Ash (=() because Renegade Shep is a Jerk to her. just be nice and screw renegade option when talking to her, worked for me xD

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AmaZiin_HD wrote...

maybe its the dialogue choices you chose right after talkin to Anderson when you finished Eden Prime, on my 2nd playthrough I Played a renegade nd wasnt able to romance Ash (=() because Renegade Shep is a Jerk to her. just be nice and screw renegade option when talking to her, worked for me xD


It's because you told her she's out of line when talking about wrex and garrus. That (renegade) dialogue option kills any chance of romancing ashley...

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sorry to bump this but I need my question answered.

Ok so I've been trying to romance Ashley in a new play though from the first Mass Effect all the way to the end of Mass Effect 2 (getting ready for ME3), first try I ended up with Liara which is "NOT" what I wanted since I already have that in another game play.

I literally have the game on pause with Liara asking me if I have feelings for her, now I want to get to the part where you choose either Liara or Ash in the com room but I've read that where I am right now is where most ppl screw this up..........what do I say??? Yes I have feelings, I just want to be friends, or get away from me you sexy blueberry lol

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JosephCAW wrote...

sorry to bump this but I need my question answered.

Ok so I've been trying to romance Ashley in a new play though from the first Mass Effect all the way to the end of Mass Effect 2 (getting ready for ME3), first try I ended up with Liara which is "NOT" what I wanted
since I already have that in another game play.

I literally have the game on pause with Liara asking me if I have feelings for her, now I want to get to the part where you choose either Liara or Ash in the com room but I've read that where I am right now is where most ppl screw  this up..........what do I say??? Yes I have feelings, I just want to be friends, or get away from me you sexy blueberry lol


If you want to get to the threesome convo with Ash & Liara in the comm room, then I think you have to keep charming both of them for as long as you can. So that would mean telling Liara you have feelings for her.

But I'm not sure why you want to do that, if your ultimate aim is to pick Ash. Just keep showing the love to Ash, and keep Liara at arms length.

From what I understand one of the "sod off you sexy blueberry" options is slightly bugged and will take you to the threesome convo anyway (assuming you charm up Ash appropriately), but that shouldn't change things, as you can still pick Ash at the threesome convo.

EDIT: Found some interesting info here -

"be sure to tell Liara that Ashley/Kaiden is special whether you plan on romancing Liara or not. Otherwise your relationship with the human will end with that one dialogue."


http://masseffect.wi...mance#Confusion

Modifié par FemShep 4 President, 13 février 2012 - 04:41 .


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JosephCAW

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thanks, its happening right now :) :)

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JosephCAW

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...wow.......that actually hurt lol, good thing in my other play through I picked Liara :P