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[Tennmuerti]

Dev just replied it is 15-20 minutes long for a speed run. 1 hour on average. Meh.

[Landozelig]

I hope there am lots of Ewoks in it!!

[Sloth Of Doom]

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

[Sloth Of Doom]

Tennmuerti wrote...

Dev just replied it is 15-20 minutes long for a speed run. 1 hour on average. Meh.

Coughcoughripoffcoughcough.

[LGWu]

mrotton wrote...
Maybe you can't, I certainly do.  I usually enjoy the dialog and story far more then the combat.  The combat is just something to pad out the game as I progress through the story. 

mrotton.. wow a brother.
exactly

For me its like Krondor reloaded..
Great characters
Dry humour
No post/pre parameters on morality for the  willfully stupid
Every choice even though you know it will be padded in goodness
is interesting.

Louis

[Cyjack]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

Shooting in Halo =Gameplay.

Cutscenes are not gameplay.

Thanks for trying.  Please play again.

[BGFU888]

I have to admit, 5 dollars for an hour is not particularly great value, especially by video game standards. Also, at least in my area, no good by movie theater standards either.

[Tennmuerti]

7.5 euro for a full feature length film in a cinema I understand.

5 euro for one hour of content in a single player game I do not.

[Vaelic1976]

no patch? wtf

[Tennmuerti]

Cyjack wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

Shooting in Halo =Gameplay.

Cutscenes are not gameplay.

Thanks for trying.  Please play again.

Dialogue in an RPG is gameplay for many people. I know it is for me.

[BGFU888]

Cyjack wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

Shooting in Halo =Gameplay.

Cutscenes are not gameplay.

Thanks for trying.  Please play again.

If you aren't interested in story telling (and maybe you are, I don't know), I might suggest you play a different type of game, or at the very least a differnt type of RPG. If story doesn't interest you then maybe you want a loot centered game like Torchlight. I really enjoy teh gameplay in Dragon Age, but I also come for the characters and story, and the game wouldn't interest me nearly as much without them. I love the codex all on it's own, I would love to see lots more codex entries.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Cyjack wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

Shooting in Halo =Gameplay.

Cutscenes are not gameplay.

Thanks for trying.  Please play again.

Have you ever played a bioware title OR an RPG before?   Plot abnd character development thrugh dialogue and cutscense are what you are paying for, much like when you pay for a shooter you expect shooting.

So if you can take the dialogue out of an RPG I can equate that to taking the shooting out of a shooter.

[filkertom]

Tennmuerti wrote...

Cyjack wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 it's a pretty short game. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hours game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

If you take the shooting out of Halo it is only about 15 minutes long.

What a rip!

Shooting in Halo =Gameplay.

Cutscenes are not gameplay.

Thanks for trying.  Please play again.

Dialogue in an RPG is gameplay for many people. I know it is for me.

Indeed.  The point for a lot of us is, y'know, role-playing.  You need other characters to interact with.  They have to have dialogue.  Ergo, dialogue = gameplay.

[Sloth Of Doom]

So basically...Cyjack..troll elsewhere.

[Swedefist]

GravityParade wrote...

Swedefist wrote...

boba1974 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

True we are not forced to buy it but games are not as complete as they used to be because of it.

Yeah, because 80+ hours of gameplay just screams "incomplete".


Compared to the average game Dragon Age is above and beyond in the content department.



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Not really.  If you take out all of the voice-acting and extremely long dialogues there is probably about 30 hours of actual gameplay that doesn't involve you sitting there waiting for some NPC to shut up.  I can name RPGs from the original Playstation with more content, and the whole 80+ or 100+ hours is nothing new for RPGs.  For as long as this game was in development you would expect it to have 200+ hours of gameplay.

I can't even fathom that you believe the crap you are saying. You're basically saying yea, it's an 80 hour game, but if they took out 50 hours of content, it would be a 30 hour game....


sorry to be rude but no **** shirlock.

It's actually "Sherlock."  Maybe you should read things more slowly so as to understand what is being said.

I said that the majority of the "content" that makes the game 80+ hours is spoken dialogue.  Spoken dialogue is not gameplay.  If there were an option to view the spoken dialogue as text like on many other games rather than have to sit through the voice-acting, the game would be much, much shorter.  After you've played through the game, the dialogue is not necessary, and oftentimes it gets annoying.  So you're left with about 30 to 40 hours of actually playing the game, if you choose to skip through the dialogue.  I consider this to be "fluff" and not content.  Voice-acting is nice to have, and helps with the immersion, but it is not, and never will be, gameplay.  I would rather have 0 hours of voice acting and 50 more hours of ACTUAL GAMEPLAY.  This is the point being expressed.

[vereco]

BGFU888 wrote...

Anduin335 wrote...

It isn't 80 plus hours. You can't count spoken dialog as gameplay.

If you take the dialogue out of Persona 3 and 4 they're  pretty short games, ok maybe not short, but significantly shorter than they are. Fable 2... is short WITH the dialogue. Easily beaten in 10 hours and it's replay value is far smaller than DA too.

If you take the Dialouge out of FFXII you are probalby left with a 25-35 hour game.

I beat Fallout 3 in about 12 hours as well.

I'd say that, content wise, Dragon Age is doing just fine.

And if you took the cinematics out of mgs4, it'd just be a title screen. Don't forget that.


Anyway Dragon Age has delivered a significant bang to buck ratio in comparison to recent games, as long as you're a fan of rpg's.

The dlc is all a good thing: more gameplay, expanded story, and more ways to show our love for bioware and specifically dragon age.

What they really need to do though is release the OC modules for us enterprising modders who just want to expand events within the current game >_>

Topic derailment complete, ta folks.

[Landozelig]

When you take the dialogue out of an RPG, you get ... Diablo!

[LGWu]

it?  Might be worth loking at then.

Card is Ok .. i can say this no?
I have read more SF than any person on this forum and im not pulling my own pud
i read 1984 in 1967
I watched man land on the moon through a 10 inch reflector
[and on tv]

Card does child characters very well.
This is what he was most criticised for
' children are not that smart' was the knife.. his reply, and mine.
children ARE that smart
 his geopolitical overwatch was however crappy
Hegemon my arse. its cartoon time in cards strategic world.
Louis gridley Wu and nivens ringword..
There is strategy.. The puppeteers and 'lets leave now' is exactly how it would be

[pewbz]

So, what happened? Where do I go? What's the news and where do I get it?



I don't want to scour through 15 pages, paaa-leeeaaaase, someone?

[Chris Priestly]

There is a sticky at the top of the top of the page to continue discussing the new DLC.


LOCKDOWN!

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 19 novembre 2009 - 06:19 .

[Sloth Of Doom]

pewbz wrote...

So, what happened? Where do I go? What's the news and where do I get it?

I don't want to scour through 15 pages, paaa-leeeaaaase, someone?

There is a new DLC coming out..soonish...sometime.  It is like 15 inutes lng and has phat lewtzrz.  Pay bioware 5 dollars.