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[Legbiter]

I can see Anderson dying in ME 3, possibly at the start.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I think he's too old and has been out of fighting world too long to be a believable combat squadmate. Maybe he can be an NPC that talks to you on the Normandy but I don't see him picking up a gun and fighting side by side with Shepard.

[Guanxii]

Much as he complains... he's too old to go chasing the across the galaxy [and fighting on the frontline(s)], right?

Source: Anderson himself.

Modifié par Guanxii, 15 avril 2011 - 02:06 .

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Mind expanding on that, Saphra?

In Retribution Anderson betrayed the Systems Alliance, humanity, and the galaxy, by going after Cerberus. He did it all to save a petty criminal who Kahlee had a crush on. His actions were treasonous and frankly downright stupid. He was perfectly aware at the time that Cerberus was working to stop the Reapers (the only group in the galaxy trying to do so) and he still helped the turians to try and destroy him.

His actions weakened the Alliance, Cerberus, and damaged relations with the turians (whilst making the turians stronger).

No way in hell I want him on my team. I want him dead or locked up. He's a liability.

Hmmm, considering the fact that if Anderson hadn't backed my play in ME1 everyone - and I do mean everyone - would be dead and there would be no ME2 - your petty gripes look, well, petty. In ME2, he actually helps keep the Council and Alliance off my back (as well as Hackett) thus letting Shep save millions of humans from Collector Strawberry Reaper Blend. Anderson did this knowing Shep was working with Cerberus at that moment.  So again, your gripes look even MOAR petty.

Anderson on my squad?  That would be awesome. 

[darknoon5]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Hmmm, considering the fact that if Anderson hadn't backed my play in ME1 everyone - and I do mean everyone - would be dead and there would be no ME2 - your petty gripes look, well, petty.

BS. All Anderson did was punch a guy in the face and hack a computer. I could have sent a squadmate to do that. Regardless, one good deed does nothing to undo the terrible damage he did in Retribution. He betrayed the human race and endagered the galaxy. His actions were self-rightous, selfish, and just plain stupid. I don't need a man like that on my side.

Oh, shut up, please. You've  taken things so far out of proportion. He told the Turians about the Alliance (which is, according to you, humanity:blink:) having problems with cerberus, which the Turians already knew to some extent. Whilst it did make the Alliance look weak going for aid, it's not liek Anderson revealed anything that will permenantly damage the alliance. And how, exactly, does severely crippling an extremist, violent and prejudice organization, nearly managing to imprison it's founder, and killing a reaper possesed avatar endanger the galaxy? Sounds to me like he helped protect the galaxy...

Also, you needed your squad with you. Plus, seeing as they were some of Shepard's known accomplices, do you think they would'nt have been tracked? Anderson wasn't known to be as close. The point still stands that Anderson put himself into the line of fire for the greater good then.

Modifié par darknoon5, 15 avril 2011 - 02:14 .

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Hmmm, considering the fact that if Anderson hadn't backed my play in ME1 everyone - and I do mean everyone - would be dead and there would be no ME2 - your petty gripes look, well, petty.

BS. All Anderson did was punch a guy in the face and hack a computer. I could have sent a squadmate to do that. Regardless, one good deed does nothing to undo the terrible damage he did in Retribution. He betrayed the human race and endagered the galaxy. His actions were self-rightous, selfish, and just plain stupid. I don't need a man like that on my side.

He gets shot in mine and arrested for treason in my games.  And of course you just brushed of the millions of lives he helped save by keeping the Alliance out of my face in ME2.

Why so much anger and bitterness for a guy who's helped save literally trillions of lives?

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Oh, shut up, please. You've completey taken things out of proportion.

No, I haven't. I have taken a rather straight-forward view of what he did and so have a lot of other people. Anderson caused a diplomatic incident that hurt the Alliance and damaged our relations with the turians. Such an incident will breed resentment and distrust on both sides, not cooperation. If you think otherwise you are naive and need to gain a little better understanding of how the world works.

The turians used this excuse to arrest Alliance personnel with connections to Cerberus. Do you really think the turians will just grill their prisoners for Cerberus secrets? Of-course not, they'll grill them for everything they know about the Alliance too and use that info to gain an advantage. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

Hmmm, may wanna review points 2 &3 of the Site Rules there, angry one.

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Why so much anger and bitterness for a guy who's helped save literally trillions of lives?

Hackett did more than Anderson did. He hasn't saved trillions of lives, but he has endangered them.

So, Anderson getting shot and sent to prison on my behalf so I could go to Ilos - not equals helping save trillions of lives? Did Anderson help? Or not?  Easy question.

[darknoon5]

Saphra Deden wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Oh, shut up, please. You've completey taken things out of proportion.

No, I haven't. I have taken a rather straight-forward view of what he did and so have a lot of other people. Anderson caused a diplomatic incident that hurt the Alliance and damaged our relations with the turians. Such an incident will breed resentment and distrust on both sides, not cooperation. If you think otherwise you are naive and need to gain a little better understanding of how the world works.

The turians used this excuse to arrest Alliance personnel with connections to Cerberus. Do you really think the turians will just grill their prisoners for Cerberus secrets? Of-course not, they'll grill them for everything they know about the Alliance too and use that info to gain an advantage. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

Wait, how did it damage our relations with the Turians? Seems to me like they both worked together towards a common goal.

I don't doubt the Turians will try to get the prisoners to reveal alliance secrets, but I seriously doubt the Turians will attack the Alliance just because they can, that is if they even have the prisoners. You're assuming that the Turians have all of the prisoners captive, when for all we know, they all ended up in the hands of the Alliance. Even if the Turians did get some information on the Alliance, I think it was a justifiable cost to stop Cerberus from continuing their operations.

Oh, and you ignored the part about Anderson crippling cerberus and destroying a reaper-possesed avatar that was a threat to the galaxy. Surely that is good?

Also, ironic telling me to figure out how the "world" works. Which one? After all, this is a sci-fi.

Modifié par darknoon5, 15 avril 2011 - 02:23 .

[darknoon5]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Why so much anger and bitterness for a guy who's helped save literally trillions of lives?

Hackett did more than Anderson did. He hasn't saved trillions of lives, but he has endangered them.

So, Anderson getting shot and sent to prison on my behalf so I could go to Ilos - not equals helping save trillions of lives? Did Anderson help? Or not?  Easy question.

Apparently it doesn't matter because "somebody else could've done it.":innocent:
Ridiculous reasoning, really. Somebody else could've liberated the indian people, or campaigned for black rights in America. Ghandi helping India achieve independece and Luther King getting the vote for other ethnicites is unimportant because somebody else could've done it, right?

[Lapis Lazuli]

Shep took Garrus on a top secret mission called ME1 in which much was revealed about cerberus underhanded dealings. Surely Shep is causing a diplomatic incident...

[Sajuro]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Why so much anger and bitterness for a guy who's helped save literally trillions of lives?

Hackett did more than Anderson did. He hasn't saved trillions of lives, but he has endangered them.

I know, he endangered them when he created a Reaper Avatar to see what would happen without installing any failsafes.... oh wait. At least Cerberus was able to destroy it before it could get information on all of the Alliance's biotics in the Ascension program and kill several peo.... oh wait. They didn't make it worse by lieing to Aria about Grayson's condi- no ummm they didn't sabotage the biotic program with their own exp- no.....

[GodWood]

I'd rather Kai Leng

[N085]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know, he endangered them when he created a Reaper Avatar to see what would happen without installing any failsafes....

There were failsafes, but Anderson and his turian buddies undid them.

So having a reaper avatar running around is a good thing? Well i guess i'll let the reapers win in ME3 then lol.

[darknoon5]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know, he endangered them when he created a Reaper Avatar to see what would happen without installing any failsafes....

There were failsafes, but Anderson and his turian buddies undid them.

By failsafes, you mean Kai Leng, and yeah, Kai Leng would've stood a great chance against reaper Grayson.

[Lapis Lazuli]

Any Turian Spectre will run into all kinds of secrets about every species in the galaxy just in the course of day to day operations.

[Jarlan23]

I really hope he's a squadmate. He's one of my favorite characters.

[Seboist]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Hmmm, considering the fact that if Anderson hadn't backed my play in ME1 everyone - and I do mean everyone - would be dead and there would be no ME2 - your petty gripes look, well, petty.

BS. All Anderson did was punch a guy in the face and hack a computer. I could have sent a squadmate to do that. Regardless, one good deed does nothing to undo the terrible damage he did in Retribution. He betrayed the human race and endagered the galaxy. His actions were self-rightous, selfish, and just plain stupid. I don't need a man like that on my side.

If my femshep has her way in ME3 Anderson will swinging from a noose for what he did in Retribution.

Modifié par Seboist, 15 avril 2011 - 04:52 .

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Why so much anger and bitterness for a guy who's helped save literally trillions of lives?

Hackett did more than Anderson did. He hasn't saved trillions of lives, but he has endangered them.

So, I'll ask again, since you've failed to answer and you're cherry-picking which Anderson actions to judge...

So, Anderson getting shot and sent to prison on my behalf so I could go to Ilos - not equals helping save trillions of lives? Did Anderson help? Or not?  Easy question.

[CroGamer002]

Don't you mean Councilor/Admiral?