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[Gamer Ftw]

Didn't he go crazy and kill apprentices at some point in origins?
I was totally creeped out by him having a crush on a female mage and being willing to run a sword through her at the same time.
could you imagine being a female mage stuck in the tower with this creepy eyes watching you all the time? eww.
Cullen=creepy stalker.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 15 avril 2011 - 09:10 .

[Nadya2]

well he surely is one of the most interesting characters in da2 not to mention is also the best looking male npc

[Gamer Ftw]

interesting in what way?

[Mxcl]

The way he wasn't completely spineless during The Last Straw. Standing up to Meredith? Good call.

Mostly looks though. I'm just that shallow.

[highcastle]

I never saw the appeal of him in Origins where he came off a little too close to home in comparison to a stalker I once had. But he's grown on me in DA2. Not so much that I'd want to romance him, but I at least see a bit more dimension to his character.

First, I'm not sure the slaughtering of apprentices was canon. It certainly doesn't seem like it was in DA2. Not all epilogues were canon, remember. It sounds like Cullen was sent to Kirkwall before had the chance to do much smiting of any kind.

Second, I think there's something interesting about a guy who had that much fear of mages in the first game basically become the sanest templar in Kirkwall by the end. I roll mage Hawkes pretty consistently and I side with the mages, too. At the end, Cullen always turns on Meredith, unwilling to kill my character even though Hawke's is pretty much the embodiment of his darkest fears. Plus, I compulsively talk to every NPC I pass. Cullen has quite a bit of dialogue with Hawke if you speak to him in between quests. It's interesting to watch his opinion change over the acts. He's never very comfortable with mages (indeed, in the first Act he can basically say they aren't people), but Meredith's hard line approach makes him reconsider his methods.

I think there's a bit more to his character now than there was in Origins. He seems a bit more mature (if still very repressed), and at least I didn't get the same creepy stalker vibes from him this time around.

[Plaintiff]

Cullen doesn't strike me as a creep. In the Mage Origin, he's torn between his commitment to duty and his love for Fem/Mage/Warden.

In DA2, he's been subjected to a lot at the hands of blood mages, he's seen the extent of the destruction magic can inflict in the wrong hands. But he still comes through in the end and does the right thing by turning on Meredith when she proves to be insane.

Due to the subjective nature of epilogues, I think any mention of Cullen in those should be discounted.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 15 avril 2011 - 10:58 .

[Caja]

I wrote that in another thread, so I just copy and paste out of laziness:

If I remember it correctly he only becomes... mentally instable if the warden asks the queen/the king to free the mages. But since it never happened, because the chantry said "no" to this splendid idea, Cullen remained sane.
I asked to become chancellor and I never got that epilogue slide where Cullen kills the mages.

No, I wasn't creeped out by him in Origins. I don't think he had much of a choice while he was based at the tower. His superior probably gave him the order to look after the mage warden and to do what's necassary, should she fail. Imagine how he must have felt, with having a crush on her and all.

His duty and his feelings make an interesting contrast. There's room for conflict, which I like.

Also, Cullen proofs in DA 2 that he is not unreasonable. And you can't dismiss that he may have a point: mages are dangerous. If you consider that Cullen got tortured by a demon, because of the misguided ambition of one (!) mage, it's understandable that he is very careful with mages.

I think Cullen had a lot of back luck, so I certainly have compassion for him. Furthermore it doesn't hurt that he is extremely good-looking.

Modifié par Caja, 15 avril 2011 - 11:06 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

I like Cullen because he effectively went from shy, innocent, little Templar to crazy Templar to level headed, shy, cute, Templar with enough of a back bone to stand up to a powerful, yet crazy, Templar with a Giant Red Sword of Death. All in the span of 2 games. He also isn't batballs insane in DA2. Unlike, apparently, every single Mage/Templar you come across throughout the game.

He is also the best looking Male NPC in Dragon Age 2 if you ask me.
And he's voiced by Greg Ellis.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 15 avril 2011 - 11:28 .

[Saephy]

Seem to recall Origins states, if the warden had failed her Harrowing it would mean she would have become an abomination.
That is when Cullen would have been forced to kill her, thus it´s not so creepy that he has feelings for her yet is willing to kill her as an abomination.
He does also state he would have felt terrible about it, and it does seem like he might not even have been capable of doing it had it happened.

As for killing someone who has become an abomination, Merrill asks the same of you during her "chat up the demon"-quest, and depending somewhat on how you view abominations, it could be seen as "mercy-killing" not unlike what Anders does to Karl.

Modifié par Saephy, 15 avril 2011 - 11:26 .

[Selenora]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

I like Cullen because he effectively went from shy, innocent, little Templar to crazy Templar to level headed, shy, cute, Templar with enough of a back bone to stand up to a powerful, yet crazy, Templar with a Giant Red Sword of Death. All in the span of 2 games. He also isn't batballs insane in DA2. Unlike, apparently, every single Mage/Templar you come across throughout the game.

He is also the best looking Male NPC in Dragon Age 2 if you ask me.
And he's voiced by Greg Ellis.

Wow....my thoughts exactly.

The man has balls. (Unlike another char from DAO who couldnt even take the leadership...and i do love that char but true facts are true facts).
To stand against Meredith, who can kill you by only look at you ( i have to admit they did a very good job suiting Meredith's face with her inner **** self )

And he does believe in what he stands for...if you side with the templars, there are a few mages who surrender and they ask Meredith for mercy...which she's not wiling to give them...but Cullen objects her there too...And when Meredith asks him if he will be willing to take the responcibility if these mages turn to be blood mages he says he is...for thats being a templar means...to guard and protect

[Shepard Lives]

He's a ******.

He stole the magic of Greg Ellis from Anders. Curse thee, Cullen.

[Avilia]

Shepard Lives wrote...

He's a ******.

He stole the magic of Greg Ellis from Anders. Curse thee, Cullen.

Well, technically they shared the awesome in Origins/Awakening.  Then a choice had to be made and I'm afraid the sexy Templar won 

[Gamer Ftw]

Well I think if the female mage in origins wasn't into him it would be scary and creepy.

[Knightly_BW]

First of all I don't like Cullen. I was symphatetic to him on mage warden origin but when I saw him again during Broken Tower I labeled him as nutso and moved on (I love his gone crazy and run away epilogue so much by the way).

Anyway I can think some reasons why people (*cough* ladies *cough*) find him attractive.

1- They had a chance to flirt and scare poor guy with their Origins mages. I guess this gives them a sense of superiority over poor lad.
2- He wears uniform. Most ladies love man in uniform (or guys... in my case. Tho I prefer digging Keran instead)
3- In both games he is one of the few good looking guys. If my memory serves there was very few good looking guys compared to girls in origins. While in DA 2 almost all male templars look yummy check no.1 for where his special situation comes from.

I guess ladies like to play with their preys before pin them down. *runs for cover*

[mindblanks2]

Asperius wrote...

First of all I don't like Cullen. I was symphatetic to him on mage warden origin but when I saw him again during Broken Tower I labeled him as nutso and moved on (I love his gone crazy and run away epilogue so much by the way).

Anyway I can think some reasons why people (*cough* ladies *cough*) find him attractive.

1- They had a chance to flirt and scare poor guy with their Origins mages. I guess this gives them a sense of superiority over poor lad.
2- He wears uniform. Most ladies love man in uniform (or guys... in my case. Tho I prefer digging Keran instead)
3- In both games he is one of the few good looking guys. If my memory serves there was very few good looking guys compared to girls in origins. While in DA 2 almost all male templars look yummy check no.1 for where his special situation comes from.

I guess ladies like to play with their preys before pin them down. *runs for cover*

Well then, no surprises there!

[Masako52]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Well I think if the female mage in origins wasn't into him it would be scary and creepy.

Not really! I didn't think he was stalkerish at all. I thought he was adorable. He doesn't really bring up to you the fact that he likes you, he's really shy and awkward about it. It's not like he follows you around, he admires you from afar more like.

I think it's cute because the Templars are supposed to be these tough wardens of the mages in the tower, and generally the mages just resent them and don't interact with them much. Cullen struggles with the fact that he doesn't trust mages and thinks they should be kept under lock and key, with the fact that he has a major crush on Solona.

[Beerfish]

After I saved his rump and the templars rumps for umpteenth time he only wanted to 'Arrest the Champion." at the end of the story not kill me outright. Then after I box the ears of super Meredith he bows before me (knowing full well myself and my elite group could wipe the floor with the rest of the templars in that area.) I felt like asking him to not kneel but stand (just so I could kick him in the balls.)

Modifié par Beerfish, 15 avril 2011 - 02:19 .

[mindblanks2]

Beerfish wrote...

After I saved his rump and the templars rumps for umpteenth time he only wanted to 'Arrest the Champion." at the end of the story not kill me outright. Then after I box the ears of super Meredith he bows before me (knowing full well myself and my elite group could wipe the floor with the rest of the templars in that area.) I felt like asking him to not kneel but stand (just so I could kick him in the balls.)

I thought the same thing.  I had a feeling he was only kneeling cause he knew that I could have him dismembered in one second flat.  I also liked that the kneeling comes after his plan to arrest me.  This only further proves the point.

[Eveangaline]

Saephy wrote...

Seem to recall Origins states, if the warden had failed her Harrowing it would mean she would have become an abomination.
That is when Cullen would have been forced to kill her, thus it´s not so creepy that he has feelings for her yet is willing to kill her as an abomination.
He does also state he would have felt terrible about it, and it does seem like he might not even have been capable of doing it had it happened.

As for killing someone who has become an abomination, Merrill asks the same of you during her "chat up the demon"-quest, and depending somewhat on how you view abominations, it could be seen as "mercy-killing" not unlike what Anders does to Karl.

Although, doesn't failing the harrowing include "Taking too long so they stab you even if you aren't showing any signs of having actually having lost to the demon yet"? I thought it was at least implie that ify ou happen to take longer than they want, they stab you right there.

[Selenora]

Asperius wrote...

First of all I don't like Cullen. I was symphatetic to him on mage warden origin but when I saw him again during Broken Tower I labeled him as nutso and moved on (I love his gone crazy and run away epilogue so much by the way).

Anyway I can think some reasons why people (*cough* ladies *cough*) find him attractive.

1- They had a chance to flirt and scare poor guy with their Origins mages. I guess this gives them a sense of superiority over poor lad.
2- He wears uniform. Most ladies love man in uniform (or guys... in my case. Tho I prefer digging Keran instead)
3- In both games he is one of the few good looking guys. If my memory serves there was very few good looking guys compared to girls in origins. While in DA 2 almost all male templars look yummy check no.1 for where his special situation comes from.

I guess ladies like to play with their preys before pin them down. *runs for cover*

No1: i didnt scare him. And i found the kissing mod the best. But i loved him before i discover that.
No2: True in general.
No3: he was not that good looking in DAO. But he's the best good looking male in DA2 (I like Keran too tho)

General assumption: I dont like playing with my preys....but that's just me.

[Selenora]

Beerfish wrote...

After I saved his rump and the templars rumps for umpteenth time he only wanted to 'Arrest the Champion." at the end of the story not kill me outright. Then after I box the ears of super Meredith he bows before me (knowing full well myself and my elite group could wipe the floor with the rest of the templars in that area.) I felt like asking him to not kneel but stand (just so I could kick him in the balls.)

i would want to arrest them as well, to investigate their role to that haos

[Selenora]

mindblanks2 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

After I saved his rump and the templars rumps for umpteenth time he only wanted to 'Arrest the Champion." at the end of the story not kill me outright. Then after I box the ears of super Meredith he bows before me (knowing full well myself and my elite group could wipe the floor with the rest of the templars in that area.) I felt like asking him to not kneel but stand (just so I could kick him in the balls.)

I thought the same thing.  I had a feeling he was only kneeling cause he knew that I could have him dismembered in one second flat.  I also liked that the kneeling comes after his plan to arrest me.  This only further proves the point.

Pffffffff...and i had started to like both you and Beerfish ......men.......

[NamiraWilhelm]

He's not creepy, he's endearing. Sweet innocent and obviously majorly cared for the PC, watching her from afar. Pure squee. Yes the nervousness was a bit much given how old he looked in Origins but he definitely appeals to me in the reasons i gave before. He was chosen to strike the mage down in duty and we cant blame him for that. Also, hes a handsome fellow, and a red head to boot. Nom

[SarEnyaDor]

He's blonder than Alistair or Anders and they are both called blondie LOL

But I like me some Cullen, too. Especially DA2 Cullen where he's more matured.