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[Apathy1989]

Just curious if this has changed for everyone else, but previously you had to keep these skills active to use group heal or revive.

Now they can be used at any time, despite their descriptions saying otherwise.

Maybe my game is just bugged, I do have a few mods installed.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

I've patched my save game that I started prior to the patch being released. In it Panacia must be active for Anders to use his healing line spells.

[Waltzingbear]

You won't be able to actively use them but if you set it via tactics he can still for example use Aid Allies without Panacea being active.
This has always been that way. I was kinda hoping they'd fix it.

[ezrafetch]

I remember reading somewhere that they avoided really tampering with tactics for the first patch, because they had more pressing issues to resolve first (which I think is fair and probably deserved). It should be fixed with the next patch, but who knows?

[aethernox]

I would kind of be bummed out, honestly. It would be a huge Anders nerf. I think that Vengeance needs to be re-worked a bit. -50% damage resistance could be fair, immune to conventional healing could almost be fair, but both of them at once makes Vengeance really, really bad in my opinion. Panacea... isn't very good, either.

[Waltzingbear]

aethernox wrote...

I would kind of be bummed out, honestly. It would be a huge Anders nerf. I think that Vengeance needs to be re-worked a bit. -50% damage resistance could be fair, immune to conventional healing could almost be fair, but both of them at once makes Vengeance really, really bad in my opinion. Panacea... isn't very good, either.

Only if you're doing it wrong. Anders is pretty strong even without exploiting the system. Using Blood of My Enemy allows you to self heal without deactivating Vengeance.

[aethernox]

Yeah, but it's really weak in the encounters where he would need the healing most. It's great if he has dozens of critters to Cone of Cold, but in boss fights/end-of-quest-gauntlets I find it to be quite underwhelming.

Anders is only pretty strong without exploiting the system due to his spell selection and the lack of other competent mages. His specialization, as written, is actually quite weak, due to the conflicting nature of the trees and the horrid drawbacks of each sustain.

[naughty99]

Apathy1989 wrote...

Just curious if this has changed for everyone else, but previously you had to keep these skills active to use group heal or revive.

Now they can be used at any time, despite their descriptions saying otherwise.

Maybe my game is just bugged, I do have a few mods installed.

I have confirmed in my Patch 1.02 playthrough (Nightmare) it is not possible for Anders to cast group heal or revive unless Panacea is active.

[aethernox]

naughty99 wrote...
I have confirmed in my Patch 1.02 playthrough (Nightmare) it is not possible for Anders to cast group heal or revive unless Panacea is active.

Did you try to cast them manually, or did you allow for an ally to die while Ander's panacea was inactive and his tactics were set to Ally: Dead > Regroup?

You've never been able to cast them manually, but the tactics worked as of 1.01. Mind clarifying/doing a bit more testing? I'm actually more interested in whether or not this also fixed Martyr, but one fix would imply the other.

[Waltzingbear]

You're welcomed to try this yourself. I wouldn't have posted any information if I haven't tested it myself first.

[naughty99]

aethernox wrote...

naughty99 wrote...
I have confirmed in my Patch 1.02 playthrough (Nightmare) it is not possible for Anders to cast group heal or revive unless Panacea is active.

Did you try to cast them manually, or did you allow for an ally to die while Ander's panacea was inactive and his tactics were set to Ally: Dead > Regroup?

You've never been able to cast them manually, but the tactics worked as of 1.01. Mind clarifying/doing a bit more testing? I'm actually more interested in whether or not this also fixed Martyr, but one fix would imply the other.

The only tactics I have ever used in DA2 is to activate a few sustained modes like Mabari Warhound and Lyrium Ghost.

For Anders, I have never used any tactics in the game so far, so everything is manual.

I will try testisng the tactics, however.

[naughty99]

I tested this and confirmed.

If you use tactics to have Ander casts regroup upon party member death, he does it without first activating Panacea.

Posted this issue in the Patch 1.03 - PC Technical Self Help thread.

[E l i t e D 9 6]

Tested this today, Anders used Group Heal without Panacea active. I'm only level 8 though, haven't gotten Regroup yet to test that.