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Maria Caliban wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

The tevinters love sacrificing people more than just about anything.

Do they love it more than ice cream? Than cupcakes?


I dunno, those tevinters are pretty weird. Not civilized like you and I. Cupcakes are obviously the dessert of civilized folks. Clearly, they do not have their priorities straight. Though I am guessing that it's because they didn't have ice cream back then... if they did, I'm sure that they'd have created ice-cream powered war machines instead. I'd totally be doing that research if they had the option.

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I think the real question is, would they rather sacrifice the cupcakes for the ice cream, or vice versa.

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Still would kind of suggest that Meridith was either possessed or had a deal with a demon or something. Because how could she know how to use it etc. without someone telling her?


The idol corrupted all on its own. Bertrand showed that the second he got his hands on it. It haunted his dreams even years after he got rid of it. Meredith, being of stronger will, required a much longer and gradual corruption until she finally snapped and tapped into its full power.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Still would kind of suggest that Meridith was either possessed or had a deal with a demon or something. Because how could she know how to use it etc. without someone telling her?


I would guess the idol had some kind of sentience of its own, given the haunting quest.

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tmp7704 wrote...

I think the real question is, would they rather sacrifice the cupcakes for the ice cream, or vice versa.


Truly a Sophie's Choice. Though I suppose that a King Solomon's Solution would work here as well. But if you have to sacrifice ice cream, there can truly be no winners.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Still would kind of suggest that Meridith was either possessed or had a deal with a demon or something. Because how could she know how to use it etc. without someone telling her?


The idol corrupted all on its own. Bertrand showed that the second he got his hands on it. It haunted his dreams even years after he got rid of it. Meredith, being of stronger will, required a much longer and gradual corruption until she finally snapped and tapped into its full power.


The idol does communicate with it's "hosts". It did with Bartrand, and some NPC chatter implies it did with Meredith too.

Or it could be as simple as the statues drawing power from the sword by proximity alone, and obeying the will of that power source.
It might also explain why Meredith turned into a statue, the statues fed off the sword, the sword fed off Meredith.

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It's possible that the red lyrium in her sword was the key component to the animation of the statues.

Now I'm not sure it makes sense to think of statues being able to move if they haven't been crafted to move, but I'm willing to ignore it or give it the benefit of the doubt if it turns out to be related to the idol or red lyrium in a way that mostly makes sense.

Magic should make something move not because it has joints but because it resembles something that can move.

Scarecrows, gingerbread men, dolls, puppets, statues, wood carvings of animals/people, snowmen - all things that wouldn't necessarily have joints but could easily spring to life.

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I am fully prepared for Flemeth's gingerbread man army in DA3.

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I'm reminded of the scarecrow circle in the Pearl. Thanks a lot.

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The Angry One wrote...

I am fully prepared for Flemeth's gingerbread man army in DA3.


I'm Cutlass Jack and this is my favorite suggestion on the Internet.

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I don't know if this has been brought up or not but...

Super Thin Veil + Tainted Lyrium Idol + Weird Creepy Statues that might have some magical properties (not necessarily golem-like) = HolyCow those metal things are attacking!

So more like a combination of a great many different elements?  Or...could it be that statues have been possessed like the trees in the Brecillian Forest are possessed due to a super thin veil (because of the terrible war that was fought in that forest long ago)?  The idol could be like some sort of beacon for spirits...or something. 

Modifié par Village Idiot, 15 avril 2011 - 05:57 .


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The Angry One wrote...

I am fully prepared for Flemeth's gingerbread man army in DA3.


Backed by the ice cream powered war statues?

I see Flemeth as being a bit more practical.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 15 avril 2011 - 05:57 .


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The Angry One wrote...

The idol does communicate with it's "hosts". It did with Bartrand, and some NPC chatter implies it did with Meredith too.

Or it could be as simple as the statues drawing power from the sword by proximity alone, and obeying the will of that power source.
It might also explain why Meredith turned into a statue, the statues fed off the sword, the sword fed off Meredith.


On a related note... One of the things I found interesting about the fact that the idol was made of lyrium was the effect it seemed to have on people. Dwarves are noted for being much less affected by lyrium than humans; it comes from the same place their magic resistance does, as well as the fact they don't go to the fade when they dream. Because of that, I wasn't surprised that Bartrand wasn't able to fully utilize the powers of the idol, and Meredith was able to utilize more of it.

Maria Caliban wrote...

Magic should make something move not because it has joints but because it resembles something that can move.

Scarecrows, gingerbread men, dolls, puppets, statues, wood carvings of animals/people, snowmen - all things that wouldn't necessarily have joints but could easily spring to life.


Did the dwarven golems have joints? They look kind of jointy.

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I am fully prepared for Flemeth's gingerbread man army in DA3.


Or Morrigan's version of this:

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Did the dwarven golems have joints? They look kind of jointy.

They're made by pouring molten lyrium on a living person, so you'd have the joints of the person's skeleton encased in lyrium and then some sort of stone or metal covering that didn't seem to have joints.

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Filament wrote...

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Still would kind of suggest that Meridith was either possessed or had a deal with a demon or something. Because how could she know how to use it etc. without someone telling her?


I would guess the idol had some kind of sentience of its own, given the haunting quest.

So there is either a demon inside or it is a Reaper?

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AlexXIV wrote...

Filament wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Still would kind of suggest that Meridith was either possessed or had a deal with a demon or something. Because how could she know how to use it etc. without someone telling her?


I would guess the idol had some kind of sentience of its own, given the haunting quest.

So there is either a demon inside or it is a Reaper?

Yeah, something like that.

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Completelyk illed immersion, that';s probably mym ian gripe. It's like your faced with 2 tough decisions, its the final battle, its gonna be epic then EA decide that bigger is better and that their should be variation from you know, enemies dropping out of the fricking SKY so they make statues come to life. I mean the slave ones looked awesome, I loved how they slumped about but it just was such an ott situation that they threw on you, no foreshadowing no reason why. I mean in origins we learn all about the archdemon, how to kill it, it's powers etc in DA2 we see Meredith dispatch one qunari, **** at the mages then without any warning shes justl ike oh yeh i obught that idol from bartrand thus my massively big lightsaber....oh i can jump now.....and I can animate statues......and I'm going to stun everyone to monologue....except aveline......and I won't fight back when she hits me.....just have a conversation with myself.....

I have to say that was the worst ending to a game I've ever seen and I played Far Cry 2 for gods sake..

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I wouldn't say it killed my immersion. I did have a total Ray Harryhausen fangirl squee moment when it started happening, but I never felt it was horribly out of place. Meredith doing her superman thing, now that I went O_O at.

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eleridragon wrote...

I wouldn't say it killed my immersion. I did have a total Ray Harryhausen fangirl squee moment when it started happening, but I never felt it was horribly out of place. Meredith doing her superman thing, now that I went O_O at.

I never understood why people who can fly fight on the ground when they could just shoot everyone from the air. For example ... Superman. Or dragons ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 15 avril 2011 - 07:11 .


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Traction. Hard to get a good punch in when you have no leverage.

Edit: Oh right. Forgot about Superman's hilariously overpowered red death beams FROM HIS EYES. Forget I said anything.

Modifié par Rockpopple, 15 avril 2011 - 07:22 .


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those statues were so easy to take down anyways

high dragon is the real final boss of this game

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There wasn't even a point to that fight. It was stupid. They should've just let me duel Meredith sans the lightsaber, force jump, and walking statues.

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eleridragon wrote...

I wouldn't say it killed my immersion. I did have a total Ray Harryhausen fangirl squee moment when it started happening, but I never felt it was horribly out of place. Meredith doing her superman thing, now that I went O_O at.

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I originally read the thread title as, "Why are the statues shooting fire and wanking?"