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#126
Ayanko

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Zinou wrote...

I prefer male Hawke cause he sound like a true leader.

He the man.

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Si-Shen

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Ayanko wrote...

Zinou wrote...

I prefer male Hawke cause he sound like a true leader.

He the man.

:ph34r: I suddenly have visions of He-Man running about Kirkwall... great...

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Her voice grew on me after a while into the game but I think that it sounds too snobbish/girly to be Hawke. When I thought of female Hawke I imagined a tougher (not agressive) but independent, driven, cooler sounding female voice, if that made any sense :P

Modifié par ISnowdropI, 16 avril 2011 - 08:27 .


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Ayanko

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ISnowdropI wrote...

Her voice grew on me after a while into the game but I think that it sounds too snobbish/girly to be Hawke. When I thought of female Hawke I imagined a tougher (not agressive) but independent, driven, cooler sounding female voice, if that made any sense :P

It did indeed make perfect sense, and I agree with you. Huzzah.

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I thought her voice acting was great. Of course, I did mostly sarcastic, and the accent works for that. Liked the male too, they were both great, and I felt that they were much more even than male and female Shep. Hale does some lines better than Wyatt, but Wyatt's baseline is much higher.

As for threatening, I thought she was ok. If you can't see someone with that voice as threatening then you can't, but for me, sarcastic FHawke was pretty scary sounding precisely because she didn't sound like she was taking other people's threats to her seriously. "Ho hum, I'm Hawke, if you attack me you're dead. I know it and if you don't know it, you're a moron."

As someone else noted, in real life, voices sometimes don't fit.  One of the most dangerous guys I know has a girly voice.  Completely incongruous.  Nobody mocks him for it, though.  Of course, maybe he is a badass beause he has a girly voice, compensation, and all that.

Modifié par Taritu, 16 avril 2011 - 11:21 .


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Wanted to punch her in the face every time she talked.

Cannot see myself ever being able to do a complete playthrough with her.

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The argument that "some peoples' voices don't fit" is.... Really awkward in fiction. In fiction, if the voice does not fit and you do not like it, you can CHANGE it. Because it's fiction.

And if it's a character that you are trying to connect with, it's even more awkward. The voice was one of the many, MANY things that have made it supremely difficult to connect with my Hawke. I end up skipping through a lot of her lines. Good thing I read quickly, I suppose.

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I think I remember hearing her voice in Fable 2 & 3.

It's pretty good when it comes to good and sarcastic tones, but thats about it.

Thats why my evil hawke ended up being male. B)

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I didn't mind her, but I do think that she sounds very arrogant. She sounds just like the kind of girls who talked down to me in junior high because their clothes were from Abercrombie & Fitch and mine were from garage sales.

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I wasn't impressed with male Hawke's voice at first, but after getting used to it, meh.

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For me it's the other way around, the Female Hawke's voice is one of the few things I thought was actually decent about the game, though I don't like Man-Hawke that much. Probably from playing female first.

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I sorta agree OP. Well, she's definetly *not* that annoying so I want to punch her through the screen, but I still think that Nick Boulton's delivery was MILES above her.

Also, maybe it's just me but is it a trend around here with hating on the male protagonists? With Meer sure, he does sound indeed a bit monotone, but when I see some people calling Dude Hawke the same way, I just facepalm a bit.

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Im sure that Lady Hawke is better than the dude, but no doubt she isn't up to the high standards that Jennifer Hale set. I can see why they'd want to get somebody new, but clearly Hale is talented enough to sound completely different from Shepard, so if they were set on getting somebody new just for its own sake, they really should've put more effort into finding somebody really good. Lady Hawke is entirely tolerable, but she isn't anywhere near the Hale level of greatness, and that's a shame.

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Male Hawke delivers all his basic conversation dialogue in a predictable, passionless, inhumanly monotone way. Sometimes I roll my eyes and say the line along with him by reading the subtitles as they appear, and usually I can guess exactly how he will say it. I don't even think it is his fault completely. It must be difficult to record thousands of lines of dialogue by just reading what is on a page, without being in a real conversation.

However!

In combat, he sounds incredible. I think to myself that they must have hired the VA solely based on his chills-inducing battle shouts, inspiring my team (and me) to victory.

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Peck7 wrote...
In combat, he sounds incredible. I think to myself that they must have hired the VA solely based on his chills-inducing battle shouts, inspiring my team (and me) to victory.


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#141
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I like her voice!

Sarcastic Fhawk is great!

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I actually love her voice. The accent came off as authentic enough to me, though I'm not British - but either way, her voice was a pleasure to listen to, and I think she hit all the right notes 90% of the time. It's difficult to find a VA who can play all the combinations of class, temperament, and morality that Hawke has to cover, and I think she did a great job. I've played her as good/witty, good/diplomatic, and neutral-self-interested/witty, once as a rogue and I'm on my second go as a mage, and she's hit it pretty well every time, even when I've occasionally chosen the aggressive option.

I don't understand why a lady has to have a deep, commanding voice to play a lead in an adventure/fantasy/action game. I loved Jennifer Hale's Shepard, but it was nice to see a different take, and personally, I liked how femme my Hawke could be.

But that's just me! :)

Modifié par Girl on a Rock, 17 avril 2011 - 06:56 .


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I'm with you, Girl on a Rock! "A deep, commanding voice" -- what, a light, cultured soprano can't be commanding? (Not directed at you, but at the idea you bring up.) Talk about stereotyping! Gender stereotyping, too: A woman doesn't have to sound like a man to be a leader. She can just sound like a woman.

ETA: Not all men have "a deep, commanding voice," either, so y'know. Stereotyping all the way around. Viva diversity!

Modifié par infernalserpent, 18 avril 2011 - 03:11 .


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I love her voice, its not as commanding as Boulton's but it has a wild strength to it that suits the characters.

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Ayanko wrote...

Peck7 wrote...
In combat, he sounds incredible. I think to myself that they must have hired the VA solely based on his chills-inducing battle shouts, inspiring my team (and me) to victory.


This^--


"Nothing like the smell of fresh blood!" I love how gleeful he sounds. <3

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Kas Minus One

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I'm fine with Fem Hawke's voice, but I can't stand Male Hawke's voice.  Merrill's is the best of all the characters though.

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woops wrong topic

Modifié par Nashiktal, 18 avril 2011 - 03:17 .


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Love her to bits.

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I liked the Hawkes fine. I could not stand Female Shepard....The voice was waaaay too Gruff and Butch. I like Hale don't get me wrong, but Female Shepard, man I couldn't stand that. I can also see Female Hawke's voice being a bit odd for a warrior. It fit my mage fine though.

Modifié par Warrcry13, 18 avril 2011 - 07:17 .


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Ayanko wrote...

... maybe it's because I'm british and that accent was just so "fake" it anoyyed me.


I think this is probably the main issue you have here =/. I'm American, so my main exposure to the various accents has been through movies, tv, and some BBC television. I'm only starting to recognize the Welsh accent, and it's partly because of Merrill's voice actress, who I was familiar with from Doctor Who and Torchwood. In other words, I can't really tell when it's being faked. According to wikipedia however, Jo Wyatt, femHawke's actress is English (but it IS wikipedia, so who knows.)

I actually like her voice. It fits the way I make her look (pretty much the same in all my plays), and I think Bioware did a good job of finding someone who could sound mature, yet playful (with sarcastic personality) or harsh. As a woman, I'm critical of female actresses who don't sound/look like they fit the part. Sorry, but I never got the "heart surgeon" vibe from Meg Ryan in City of Angels. Angelina Jolie however, does seem like a badass spy in Salt.

This is the gamble Bioware had to take in going the full VO route, and I'm sure they were aware of it at the time. If they had cast an actress that you like, I may not appreciate her in the same way. It just so happens that the opposite was true. People are also totally dreaming if they think their budget could fit 2 or 3 VO for each gender. Have you ever looked at the credits for DAO? There are several actors who did over 5 roles each. Even while playing, I know I heard Jowan's voice from like 10 different people.

I'll say one thing, they wil never be able to have full-voice Warden character. I can see the forums rants now...