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[Fordtransit]

It would be nice to hear something from devs about this topic. My english and pc skills are getting tested here.

Umm.. what is an "X box" ?

It is a joke.

[volus is king]

sure but can it run crysis?

[EternalPink]

Arcian wrote...

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

You can reand in "Confirmed features thread", there won't be DX11. So any card from GTX260 and better will run ME3 beautifully ( and from 5770 and better)

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Most likely due to all the issues that DA2 has with dx11

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 10 septembre 2011 - 02:07 .

[Gorath Alpha]

volus is king wrote...

sure but can it run crysis?

That appeared to be a response to a joke about an Xbox console. 

From past experience, a preliminary proposal for the System Requirements won't appear any sooner than about five-six weeks before the eventual release date, and I don't mean before the release date that has been announced already.  Some slippage may still occur, and is always more desireable than a rushed release with even less than the usual minimal Beta Test screening. 

The official requirements might not be announced until only three weeks remain before the actual release. 

[jmalt4]

Will give me more than enough time to upgrade to a newer machine if I need to. May just do that next year on GP.

[Reciever80]

I'm running ME2 on a a 4650 (1 GB, but my system put an extra 1.7 GB on it, so I think that makes it a 2.7 GB video card. bwahaha > )

In the mean time, i got myself a Phenom X6, its running at 3.6 GHz right now, I'll be getting a 6870 before BF3 comes out, so ME3 should run beautifully ^.^

I've got it all planned out, its gonna be a good year for me.

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

From past experience, a preliminary version of the System Requirements won't appear any sooner than about five-six weeks before the eventual release date, and by that I don't mean before the release date that has been announced already.  Some slippage may still occur, which is always more desireable (IMO) than a rushed release with even less than the usual minimal Beta Test screening. 

The official requirements might not be announced until only three weeks remain before the actual release. 

I'm betting this thread needs to be pushed higher up so that no one decides to start a still newer one than what's already in existence on this subject. 

Well, too late, NOW there are six of them!

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 21 juillet 2011 - 07:52 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Given that it's fallen to the tenth page (I do use the large text font size version here, if that changes how many are on a page) by this morning, it may be time to renew its position in the stack, now.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 juillet 2011 - 02:25 .

[Gorath Alpha]

The author should rename this one to "Can you run ME3?"

[Brenon Holmes]

Do not bump threads, please. As per the forum rules.

Continuing discussion is ok... but... there's a line in here somewhere, I'm not sure where it is. It looks to me like you're bumping though. :happy:

Modifié par Brenon Holmes, 28 juillet 2011 - 01:57 .

[Gorath Alpha]

There have been six message threads about the same thing. Typically, it is a constantly re-asked question. ME-3 fans appear to be seriously atypical in this regard.  Here are four of the others, though: 

http://social.biowar...3/index/8050041

http://social.biowar...3/index/7805506

http://social.biowar...3/index/7562715

http://social.biowar...3/index/7555109

Personally, my definition for bumping is when I am asking a question and too anxious to wait for an answer, or commercially interested in keeping a subject refreshed. If the ME-3 fans were more normal, I would expect dozens and dozens of questions about what the PC Requirements might eventually be instead of so few , ,

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 10 août 2011 - 11:37 .

[charmingcharlie]

Gorath Alpha wrote...
Personally, my definition for bumping is when I am asking a question and too anxious to wait for an answer, or commercially interested in keeping a subject refreshed. If the ME-3 fans were more normal, I would expect dozens and dozens of questions about what the PC Requirements might eventually be instead of so few , ,

There are 208 days till the game is released that is nearly 8 months till Mass Effect 3 is released.  I have been a PC gamer for nigh on 20 years and I have never seen a developer talk about PC requirements 8 months before the game is out.  You are asking a question that no developer would answer so far away from release.

There is still a hell of lot more to do with the game and it really would be crazy for Bioware to give "specs" any time soon.  At the moment the current line from Bioware is they are "aiming" for similar specs to Mass Effect 2.  That is the most you will get out of them at the current time.

I have no doubt we will get PC specs around a month to a few weeks before release (just like other games) till then don't expect any detailed answer regarding the issue.

[Fredvdp]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...
Personally, my definition for bumping is when I am asking a question and too anxious to wait for an answer, or commercially interested in keeping a subject refreshed. If the ME-3 fans were more normal, I would expect dozens and dozens of questions about what the PC Requirements might eventually be instead of so few , ,

There are 208 days till the game is released that is nearly 8 months till Mass Effect 3 is released.  I have been a PC gamer for nigh on 20 years and I have never seen a developer talk about PC requirements 8 months before the game is out.  You are asking a question that no developer would answer so far away from release.

You're missing the point.

He's not asking a question, in fact he said the same thing you just said, that the system requirements won't be posted until weeks before release. The point of bumping this thread is because even if we are far away from release people keep posting questions about requirements. If this thread stays high on the board, less people would make new useless topics.

Personally I don't care how many topics they create because I can just ignore them.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 11 août 2011 - 08:04 .

[FERMi27]

Just relax, ME3 having considerably higher requirements compared to ME2 is unimaginable. Anything with two cores and a 128 bit memory bus will run it.
It's like HL2 and Episode One(or even less - Lost Coast). Everything that has been able to provide playable fps in the first one almost certainly has been doing the same in the second.

[Fordtransit]

Now, for a record, i was telling on other thread that i was not ok with dual core E6XXX, 1gb ddr5 gpu and win7 64bit.
I was getting mixed replays, mostly saying that it was probably win7 eating up my cores, or me being delusional.

I got reacently my hand on Intel E6750.

Of course i overclocked the quad out of it and run benchmark. As my pc runs directX11 i did 3Dmark11 basic tests.
Then i throwed in my Intel Q6600 into exactly the same machine and did the same tests again.
GPU is Asus EAH 6950, unlocked, slightly overclocked.

Now, lets remember, E6750 runs at 2,66 ghz and for the test i overcloked it to 3,7 ghz for the test.

Results are

3DMark Score P4178 with E6750 OC3695
Graphics Score 4941
Physics Score 2931
Combined Score 2750
GraphicsTest1 21 FPS
GraphicsTest2 25 FPS
GraphicsTest3 31 FPS
GraphicsTest4 14 FPS
PhysicsTest 9 FPS
CombinedTest 12 FPS

3DMark Score P4901 with Q6600 OC3600
Graphics Score 5062
Physics Score 4663
Combined Score 4220
GraphicsTest1 21 FPS
GraphicsTest2 26 FPS
GraphicsTest3 31 FPS
GraphicsTest4 15 FPS
PhysicsTest 14 FPS
CombinedTest 19 FPS

Physics and combined scores are the parts witch may need some intention, because I was getting issues with 1920 x 1080 screen and Intel EXXX dual core.

Bottom line is, you cannot assume that all is going to be ok with dual core. You maybe ok with 45 nm chip 1333 fsb, you may be not ok with 65nm 1066 fsb older chip, with bigger screen.

Modifié par Fordtransit, 14 août 2011 - 02:54 .

[charmingcharlie]

Fordtransit wrote...  Bottom line is, you cannot assume that all is going to be ok with dual core. You maybe ok with 45 nm chip 1333 fsb, you may be not ok with 65nm 1066 fsb older chip, with bigger screen.

The bottom line is Bioware stated the recommended was a DUAL CORE for ME 2 and Jesse Houston has said that ME 3 will have similar specs to ME 2 which means it will run fine on a dual core.  Now I honestly do not know why you had a problem with ME 2 on a dual core.  There are plenty that didn't have a problem with ME 2 on a dual core, I myself owned a dual core and got 40 - 50 fps on a 5 year old E6600 (stock speed) with an 8800gts.  Just because YOU had some bizarre issue with ME 2 on a dual core doesn't mean everyone else did.

So the bottom line is "if you ran ME 2 acceptably on your machine then the indications from Bioware are that you will be able to run ME 3 just as well".

[Fordtransit]

I heard it alaredy.
I am reporting an issue, that i cant explain or understand. What is yours? Saying it cannot be because it cannot be? I heard it. Thank you.
Still fact remains the same. 64 bit os + virus and firewall + other applications+ fast gpu + big screen can give you a sytem load total, what can be too much for older core duo.

What is here the point to argue? Why do you insist that with "core duo" you be ok, when you maybe not? What is this?

Edit 1: Well when i ask about specs : "Its too early" 
 -  how then on earth devs can give you assurance about core duos? 

They dont have the product, as i understand. They are just aiming for core duos. Probably they get there. I can understand that. Its public relations and advertaising. Nothing wrong with that. 

But For cruing out loud: without any other reference about someones PC, how can you say - you be ok? You dont know what other programs are installed, what hardwere, what memory busses northbridges etc etc. Its just too meny variables there, isint it?  

Right now the only way to be absolutley sure that ME3 will run on Someones core duo is  to format c: and make fresh install windows xp 32 bit, then install ME3  and nothning else,. Sure, you be okay with you core duo, no problem whatsoever. 
Right?  

Edit 2. I am done with that topic. I sayd what i had to say. Lets wait for a game and see how it turnes out.

Modifié par Fordtransit, 14 août 2011 - 06:07 .

[charmingcharlie]

Fordtransit wrote...
I heard it alaredy. I am reporting an issue, that i cant explain or understand. What is yours? Saying it cannot be because it cannot be? I heard it. Thank you.

If you have an issue with Mass Effect 2 and Dual cores then perhaps you should post in the Mass Effect 2 Tech help section .  My issue is that you are making outlandish claims that anyone with a dual core will not necessarily be able to run ME 2 just because YOU had issues.  There have been several people reporting the complete opposite of your situation yet you ignore them and make bold claims like "don't count on being able to run ME 3 on your dual core".

Fordtransit wrote...
Edit 1: Well when i ask about specs : "Its too early" 
 -  how then on earth devs can give you assurance about core duos? 

They have given an estimation as to what hardware they are aiming to run the game on.  There is still 8 months of development left and that can mean the game may increase in spec requirements or decrease slightly.  Until the game is FINISHED it would be quite idiotic of Bioware to give a cast iron "this is what you need to run a game we haven't finished yet" statement.

Fordtransit
wrote...But For cruing out loud: without any other reference about someones PC, how can you say - you be ok? You dont know what other  programs are installed, what hardwere, what memory busses northbridges etc etc. Its just too meny variables there, isint it? 

I shall REPEAT what I said shall I ?  I said if you were able to run ME 2 acceptably then you should be able to run ME 3 just as "acceptably" according to Bioware.    So if you have all that crap already running on your PC and you are playing ME 2 fine then ME 3 should play just as "fine" as ME 2 did.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 14 août 2011 - 06:26 .

[Fordtransit]

Well here we go again.

Lets cut it down to basics:

I have heard here that
- with core duo, you are gonna be alraight
- you can count on it
- because of devs talk, it is "guarnteed".

The bottom line is "You will be ok, guarnteed"

What i am saying is :
" you maybe, but maybe not, it is not guaranteed"
maybe because of other conteibuting factors, os, whatever, but its not guarnteed

What is outlandish here?

Usually there are "crap" on pc, like other programs, firewalls, virus protection whatever. PC-s are used not only for gaming.

I base this thing on my own experience that thing got sticky sometimes, not alaways, but sometimes.

Especially, because i had issues before i got here, that means i was palying game Version One. From CD. No updates, no patches, no nothing.

As i recall after installing version 2 things got better, but then i was alaredy going on quad core, downloading and installing patches and DLC-s.

I came here to this forum because i was looking for updates, patches etc.

One of bugs, as i remember, was inability of game to use dual core cpus properly on some instances.

So, who is speaking outlandish?

Lets add that Unreal Engine 3, i have read, is the engine wich uses quite a lot of cpu, not only gpu. Is this a fact or is this a outlandish?

I think big broad statements "you will be ok" are just too inacurate in this case.
And i am getting a feeling, that if we continue in this manner, there is goig to be some evil, that shuts us down quite fast.

Outlandish, yeah right.

[charmingcharlie]

Fordtransit wrote...
I have heard here that
- with core duo, you are gonna be alraight

No you haven't heard that, you have heard me say "Bioware has stated they are aiming for similar specs to ME 2".  So if you were able to play Mass Effect 2 to your satisfaction then you should be able to play Mass Effect 3 to your satisfaction.  That is what Bioware is aiming for (seriously how many times do I have to say the same thing ?)

Fordtransit wrote...
- you can count on it

No I don't say "you can count on it" I merely stated what Bioware has already said

Fordtransit wrote...
- because of devs talk, it is "guarnteed".

Again NO I never said because Bioware said it that it is guaranteed.  They have said they are AIMING for the same specs as ME 2.  They know their game better than we know their gaime so whilst it is NOT a guarantee it does indicate that they are not expecting to increase the specs that much.

Fordtransit wrote...
Usually there are "crap" on pc, like other programs, firewalls, virus protection whatever. PC-s are used not only for gaming.

Well if people have "crap" like firewalls, virus protection etc etc I would assume they had those on their PC when they played ME 2.  That is why I say "if you were able to play ME 2 on your machine satisfactorily then according to Bioware you SHOULD be able to play ME 3 at the same quality".

Fordtransit wrote...
Lets add that Unreal Engine 3, i have read, is the engine wich uses quite a lot of cpu, not only gpu. Is this a fact or is this a outlandish?

No it isn't outlandish to say that the Unreal Engine uses a fair amount of CPU as well as GPU time.  What is outlandish is the way you tried to paint that ME 2 was unplayable on a dual core.  There have been plenty of people (me included) that played ME 2 on a higher resolution than the console version with massively better frame rates.  The Unreal Engine 3 runs very well on a core 2 duo and people managed to play ME 2 with greater than 30fps on a core2duo.

Hell the graphical leap from ME 2 to ME 3 isn't even that great.  I sure as hell couldn't tell any difference from the demos.  In fact if you had asked me I would have said the demos were actually an ME 2 level the graphics looked THAT similar.  The jump from ME 1 to ME 2 was far greater but even then the "specs" didn't increase all that much and I found I got similar framerates in ME 2 to what I got in ME 1 on my core2duo

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 14 août 2011 - 09:45 .

[Fordtransit]

Well thats the point.
For me, there is a deffinete difference between;
- an assumption that you probably will be ok with core 2 duo,
and firm statement that:
- you are guaranteed that any old core 2 duo with unfair amount of system load will do

Thats the whole thing.

I am probably picky about it, because i have spent hours cleaning out a mess that was caused by misguidance in online manual.

And to be accurate, i stated that i had occasional issues, "hickups". Badly enught, thouse were happening when dealing with few hevy mechs and trying out insanaty. Plus looking for few pepole thrown inside walls, cant finish mission without them, raising thru the cealing in some missions. That kind of things.

When i looked thru discussion here, it seemed to me that assumption was stated so many times that it kind of sticks to you. "You will be okay with dual core"
Maybe yes, most probably yes, but that will not be guaranteed 100%. That is my point.

Modifié par Fordtransit, 14 août 2011 - 11:05 .

[charmingcharlie]

Fordtransit wrote...

Well thats the point.

You wanted to know what the developer had to say, I told you that Bioware has said they are aiming for the same specs as ME 2.  Now I don't I have a signed document certified by several lawyers stating it will definitely work on a low end machine ? but we do have a statement from a developer saying that they are AIMING for the same specs as ME 2.

Now I think it is a pretty safe bet that since Bioware are not expecting the specs to go up we can assume if you played Mass Effect 2 on a core2duo to your satisfaction then from hearing what Bioware are saying you should get similar performance in ME 3 (I really cannot think how to spell this out any clearer).

Fordtransit wrote... For me, there is a deffinete difference between;
- an assumption that you probably will be ok with core 2 duo,
and firm statement that:
- you are guaranteed that any old core 2 duo with unfair amount of system load will do

I never said that though, I have never guaranteed anything.  All I have done is state what Bioware has said and what the natural conclusion is to that.  Which is if you were happy with the performance of ME 2 on your PC then indications from Bioware are that ME 3 will have similar performance.

Fordtransit wrote... "You will be okay with dual core"
Maybe yes, most probably yes, but that will not be guaranteed 100%. That is my point.

The only thing guaranteed in life is birth, death and taxes.  No there is no 100% guarantee you will be able to run Mass Effect 3 on any PC.  All we have is a statement from Bioware that basically says "they are aiming for ME 3 to  have roughly the same performance as ME 2".  It isn't a guarantee but it is an INDICATION of where they are heading.

Let me put it another way, there is absolutely NO guarantee that the game will run on your quad core.  There is a pretty good chance it will but it is not 100% guaranteed.  The same can be said for dual cores if you played ME 2 satisfactorily on your PC then there is a pretty good chance you will get the same "performance" out of ME 3 based on what Bioware are saying.

[Fordtransit]

Yes.

[Gorath Alpha]

Additional new threads on this same subject ( http://social.biowar...83913/1#8297814 ) are *NOT* needed and shouldn't be started up.