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[Torax]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

From my experience, Apostate Mages are incapable of warming their own tents.

Okay I will say that put a huge grin on my face. Well played sir.

[Thiefy]

Well it's a lot safer for the mages to live with Hawke than it is to live on their own. Anyway it's clear that Hawke is the breadwinner in all the relationships so why woudln't they want to move in? Besides the other two are optional characters that also prefer personal freedom more than anything.

[LobselVith8]

theauthority wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

theauthority wrote...

Imho, Merrill seeks somebody who would take care of her in a strange, alien world (which does not cheapen her true affection towards Hawke, there's proof enough anywhere from banter to dialogues). Even in rival romance, she knows Hawke's the only one who'll be there for her.

I don't see Hawke taking care of her, since she lives on her own in the Alienage for years before Hawke even invites her to live with him, and even then she spends a lot of time in her own house working on building the Eluvian.

That's because of game mechanics, when a romance is set it basically gets to a grinding halt, nothing more. With "squatter" LIs like Merrill is like Flirt-Engage-Get Naughty-Move to Mansion and... that's it. Isabela stops at the Get Naughty, but that's another story.
Hawke "taking care of her", like I said in my previous post, is hinted in the Rival Romance, when she asks why Hawke won't stop checking on her (flirting stage).
Merrill doesn't fully move to Hawke's until Act III if I'm right. Which doesn't add much to the romance, something's missing, Merrill's as alive as, say, Orana or Bodhan.

Game mechanics aside, how is "checking up on her" akin to "taking care of her"?

[mesmerizedish]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Game mechanics aside, how is "checking up on her" akin to "taking care of her"?

Because it confirms people's impression of Merrill as a child. Confirmation bias

[Addai]

LobselVith8 wrote...

The only problem with that assessment is we know Merrill had a friendship with the Dalish protagonist who becomes a Warden unless we choose another protagonist from a different background; it's part of the reason behind Merrill's desire to create a functional Eluvian.

I didn't get much of a sense of friendship in the dynamic, not like Tamlen.  She was there to make sure you did what you were supposed to do (irony).

[LobselVith8]

Addai67 wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

The only problem with that assessment is we know Merrill had a friendship with the Dalish protagonist who becomes a Warden unless we choose another protagonist from a different background; it's part of the reason behind Merrill's desire to create a functional Eluvian.

I didn't get much of a sense of friendship in the dynamic, not like Tamlen.  She was there to make sure you did what you were supposed to do (irony).

Merrill addresses that there was a friendship in Dragon Age 2, though (it's fleshed out if you import the Dalish Warden). I'm surprised you never heard the dialogue. I take it that your Muad'Dib Dalish Warden didn't have a friendship with Merrill?

[mesmerizedish]

Addai67 wrote...

I didn't get much of a sense of friendship in the dynamic, not like Tamlen.  She was there to make sure you did what you were supposed to do (irony).

That's... not true? How recently did you play the Dalish origin? You're only there to help Merrill find the mirror. She's not your keeper (oooh, pun!). The few dialogues you have with her suggest a concern for you greater if she were just your clanmate. And her comments in DAII confirm that she held you as a dear friend.

[LobselVith8]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I didn't get much of a sense of friendship in the dynamic, not like Tamlen.  She was there to make sure you did what you were supposed to do (irony).

That's... not true? How recently did you play the Dalish origin? You're only there to help Merrill find the mirror. She's not your keeper (oooh, pun!). The few dialogues you have with her suggest a concern for you greater if she were just your clanmate. And her comments in DAII confirm that she held you as a dear friend.

I don't think her elven kwitzach haderach was friends with Merrill.

[mesmerizedish]

LobselVith8 wrote...

I don't think her elven kwitzach haderach was friends with Merrill.

Ummm... in what way was her character a kwisatz haderach? That's a little mary-sueish.

And it doesn't matter whether or not she was friends with Merrill. Merrill was friends with her.

[LobselVith8]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I don't think her elven kwitzach haderach was friends with Merrill.

Ummm... in what way was her character a kwisatz haderach? That's a little mary-sueish.

And it doesn't matter whether or not she was friends with Merrill. Merrill was friends with her.

It's how I saw her Dalish Warden from her story, "The Wolf at the Edge of Camp." I was referencing the story she wrote as opposed to the storyline of DA2.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 16 avril 2011 - 05:05 .

[mesmerizedish]

LobselVith8 wrote...

It's how I saw her Dalish Warden from her story, "The Wolf at the Edge of Camp." I was referencing the story she wrote as opposed to the storyline of DA2.

Well, if her story contains details that contradict the game, I think we can agree on where the "truth" lies