So I bought this game and played through it, and more often than not the game would get stuck on a loading screen. It wouldn’t freeze; it would become an infinite loading screen. The game also had problems rendering character models right. After downloading the first patch those infinite load screens would freeze and after my second play through I couldn’t start a new game, it would always freeze right before I get to customize Sheppard. Downloaded the second patch and it’s the same ****in thing.
Should I try deleting everything and reinstalling? And even if that works I hear there is some kind problem involving the comic thing with the new patch, is that correct ?
can anyone explain
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manbearpig_23
, avril 15 2011 09:43
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Posté 16 avril 2011 - 12:21
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That is what I would try, yes. I have not experienced these kinds of freezes with any regularity except for the first time I ran unpatched (before the first patch came out). My 2nd time running unpatched (deleting the DLC/patch data and reinstalling the DLC, and refusing the patch after 1.02 came out), I only got this issue once and not since.
I never experienced this loading screen freeze while running 1.01 or 1.02.
So, yes, assuming all things equal, delete your game data and DLC/patch data (or better yet, FIRST use your PS3's backup data ability to backup your data to an external USB HDD.... this will take several hours as it backs up ALL your data, not a specific data file only) and reinstall.
Also, a few diagnostic questions:
1) What model PS3 are you running (original or slim? If original, is it one of the newer ones which all had PS2 backwards compatability removed or one of the original generation? this is to know about how old the system is).
2) What HDD are you running in it? Size? Is it the one which came with the PS3? How long have you had it? If it is an aftermarket, what is its capacity and brand (seagate, western digital, maxtor, etc.). How much data do you have total on it? That is, how full is it?
With physical storage media, if a bit is flipped or a sector is gone bad, these can cause isolated issues or widespread issues with data access or regular or irregular failures to load.
If this is a particularly full or well-used older drive, you could be running into an issue of the drive simply starting to wear out.
I'm looking specifically at your hardware because while this error is NOT unknown to myself and others running the game, the frequency disturbs me and is telling my intuition that it could be something besides code which is the problem. It could be a hardware issue which is exacerbating an underlying minor instability. And the weakest link, and main player in the PS3 for ME2 as far as data loading and access is, is the harddrive.
That is, assuming, that you are handling your PS3 properly and have it in a location where air can circulate.
I'd also recommend putting in a quiet, but high throughput fan blowing towards the air input vents of the PS3, and flowing past the output. This helps shuttle cooler air INTO the PS3, and push the hot exhaust (for lack of a better term) away. One design criticism I have of the PS3 is that, like it is with compact electronic devices... cooling is limited to an exhaust fan... that is, the only physical air mover is a small internal fan (or fans) that is trying to push hot air OUT. This helps leave hot air hanging around the device, increasing the ambient external temp of the air that is flowing to the zone of slightly lower air pressure. Whereas an input fan which is pulling air INTO the system is actively pulling in the air and pushing it over the components needing cooling.
Yes this affects game performance. Heat in processors IS a noise factor. When the processor is running fast, it has to discern smaller changes in voltages on the transistors for changing transistor states. Heat adds a noise layer to this, and as heat rises, and a few errors happen, the system tries to compensate, but still, sometimes errors slip through.
The thermal cutoff switch in the PS3's electronics is for protecting the physical hardware from a meltdown. Beforehand, however, the heat CAN interfere with stable operation of software.
I experienced this chiefly with FO:New Vegas. The game was simply more stable with the fan running. I observed the same thing but to a lesser extent (the problem was nowhere near as pandemic) with ME2.
Anyway, I hope my suggestions and musing here help you with the issue.
I never experienced this loading screen freeze while running 1.01 or 1.02.
So, yes, assuming all things equal, delete your game data and DLC/patch data (or better yet, FIRST use your PS3's backup data ability to backup your data to an external USB HDD.... this will take several hours as it backs up ALL your data, not a specific data file only) and reinstall.
Also, a few diagnostic questions:
1) What model PS3 are you running (original or slim? If original, is it one of the newer ones which all had PS2 backwards compatability removed or one of the original generation? this is to know about how old the system is).
2) What HDD are you running in it? Size? Is it the one which came with the PS3? How long have you had it? If it is an aftermarket, what is its capacity and brand (seagate, western digital, maxtor, etc.). How much data do you have total on it? That is, how full is it?
With physical storage media, if a bit is flipped or a sector is gone bad, these can cause isolated issues or widespread issues with data access or regular or irregular failures to load.
If this is a particularly full or well-used older drive, you could be running into an issue of the drive simply starting to wear out.
I'm looking specifically at your hardware because while this error is NOT unknown to myself and others running the game, the frequency disturbs me and is telling my intuition that it could be something besides code which is the problem. It could be a hardware issue which is exacerbating an underlying minor instability. And the weakest link, and main player in the PS3 for ME2 as far as data loading and access is, is the harddrive.
That is, assuming, that you are handling your PS3 properly and have it in a location where air can circulate.
I'd also recommend putting in a quiet, but high throughput fan blowing towards the air input vents of the PS3, and flowing past the output. This helps shuttle cooler air INTO the PS3, and push the hot exhaust (for lack of a better term) away. One design criticism I have of the PS3 is that, like it is with compact electronic devices... cooling is limited to an exhaust fan... that is, the only physical air mover is a small internal fan (or fans) that is trying to push hot air OUT. This helps leave hot air hanging around the device, increasing the ambient external temp of the air that is flowing to the zone of slightly lower air pressure. Whereas an input fan which is pulling air INTO the system is actively pulling in the air and pushing it over the components needing cooling.
Yes this affects game performance. Heat in processors IS a noise factor. When the processor is running fast, it has to discern smaller changes in voltages on the transistors for changing transistor states. Heat adds a noise layer to this, and as heat rises, and a few errors happen, the system tries to compensate, but still, sometimes errors slip through.
The thermal cutoff switch in the PS3's electronics is for protecting the physical hardware from a meltdown. Beforehand, however, the heat CAN interfere with stable operation of software.
I experienced this chiefly with FO:New Vegas. The game was simply more stable with the fan running. I observed the same thing but to a lesser extent (the problem was nowhere near as pandemic) with ME2.
Anyway, I hope my suggestions and musing here help you with the issue.
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Posté 16 avril 2011 - 01:26
manbearpig_23
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SirBrass wrote...
That is what I would try, yes. I have not experienced these kinds of freezes with any regularity except for the first time I ran unpatched (before the first patch came out). My 2nd time running unpatched (deleting the DLC/patch data and reinstalling the DLC, and refusing the patch after 1.02 came out), I only got this issue once and not since.
I never experienced this loading screen freeze while running 1.01 or 1.02.
So, yes, assuming all things equal, delete your game data and DLC/patch data (or better yet, FIRST use your PS3's backup data ability to backup your data to an external USB HDD.... this will take several hours as it backs up ALL your data, not a specific data file only) and reinstall.
Also, a few diagnostic questions:
1) What model PS3 are you running (original or slim? If original, is it one of the newer ones which all had PS2 backwards compatability removed or one of the original generation? this is to know about how old the system is).
2) What HDD are you running in it? Size? Is it the one which came with the PS3? How long have you had it? If it is an aftermarket, what is its capacity and brand (seagate, western digital, maxtor, etc.). How much data do you have total on it? That is, how full is it?
With physical storage media, if a bit is flipped or a sector is gone bad, these can cause isolated issues or widespread issues with data access or regular or irregular failures to load.
If this is a particularly full or well-used older drive, you could be running into an issue of the drive simply starting to wear out.
I'm looking specifically at your hardware because while this error is NOT unknown to myself and others running the game, the frequency disturbs me and is telling my intuition that it could be something besides code which is the problem. It could be a hardware issue which is exacerbating an underlying minor instability. And the weakest link, and main player in the PS3 for ME2 as far as data loading and access is, is the harddrive.
That is, assuming, that you are handling your PS3 properly and have it in a location where air can circulate.
I'd also recommend putting in a quiet, but high throughput fan blowing towards the air input vents of the PS3, and flowing past the output. This helps shuttle cooler air INTO the PS3, and push the hot exhaust (for lack of a better term) away. One design criticism I have of the PS3 is that, like it is with compact electronic devices... cooling is limited to an exhaust fan... that is, the only physical air mover is a small internal fan (or fans) that is trying to push hot air OUT. This helps leave hot air hanging around the device, increasing the ambient external temp of the air that is flowing to the zone of slightly lower air pressure. Whereas an input fan which is pulling air INTO the system is actively pulling in the air and pushing it over the components needing cooling.
Yes this affects game performance. Heat in processors IS a noise factor. When the processor is running fast, it has to discern smaller changes in voltages on the transistors for changing transistor states. Heat adds a noise layer to this, and as heat rises, and a few errors happen, the system tries to compensate, but still, sometimes errors slip through.
The thermal cutoff switch in the PS3's electronics is for protecting the physical hardware from a meltdown. Beforehand, however, the heat CAN interfere with stable operation of software.
I experienced this chiefly with FO:New Vegas. The game was simply more stable with the fan running. I observed the same thing but to a lesser extent (the problem was nowhere near as pandemic) with ME2.
Anyway, I hope my suggestions and musing here help you with the issue.
to answer your questions:
I bought my ps3 brand new when it first came out and i bought the smaller 20g version. Its almost always full, i usually have to delete another game when i get a new game. Also, i beleive mass effect 2 takes up the most space on my ps3 (i thinks its over 4 gigs)
And also, thanks for your help.
Modifié par manbearpig_23, 16 avril 2011 - 01:27 .
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Posté 16 avril 2011 - 07:17
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Yeah, I think it could very well be a HDD issue. My 1st gen 60GB PS3 gave up the ghost with a permanent YLOD back in January (a day after I'd bought ME2). I'd upgraded the HDD, though, to a 320GB HDD.
Good news: these aftermarket HDDs don't have to cost all that much. I think you can get a 320GB 7200rpm SATA2 model by Seagate or Western Digital from BestBuy or NewEgg for about $60. Sony provides instructions on how to upgrade the HDD on their playstation support site.
I'd recommend doing a data backup to an external HDD (FAT32 formatted), so when you install the new drive, you can then do a data restore. The main expense is time. That's it.
Good news: these aftermarket HDDs don't have to cost all that much. I think you can get a 320GB 7200rpm SATA2 model by Seagate or Western Digital from BestBuy or NewEgg for about $60. Sony provides instructions on how to upgrade the HDD on their playstation support site.
I'd recommend doing a data backup to an external HDD (FAT32 formatted), so when you install the new drive, you can then do a data restore. The main expense is time. That's it.
