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[Aklis]

My first character, back in 2007, was a Male Soldier, Spacer/War Hero with the default appearance. Since then I've played plenty of Soldiers and Infiltrators, and one engineer, with all kinds of backgrounds/reputations. I have never ever completed a playthrough as either a Vanguard, Adept or Sentinel.

Why? I just can't see Shepard as a biotic. For some reason, my Shepard just isn't biotic. I just can't wrap my head around it. For me, Shepard is definitely a Badass Normal.

http://tvtropes.org/...in/BadassNormal

What are your opinions?

Modifié par Aklis, 16 avril 2011 - 09:55 .

[Collider]

Shepard seems more suited to soldier.
Uses assault rifles in cutscenes (never biotics), bit of a brute sometimes...

[CroGamer002]

I could never see ManShep to be Biotic.

While on other hand I can't see FemShep not to be Biotic.

[darknoon5]

My main Shepard is an infiltrator, but I have no problem playing as a vanguard, sentinel or adapt as a male. Only one of my two female playthrough are biotic. I don't really see gender as a problem, maybe that's just me.

[Aklis]

I don't have any issues with Shep's gender, either. I think my problem comes from the fact that if Shepard was a biotic, it would be mentioned much more than it actually is.

[Turneyvore]

My first, of about the same time, was Anna Shepard, A Ruthless Female Spacer. Also she was an Adept. Later characters have been both male and female in about equal number and drawn from every class equally, with the exception of Engineer to whom I devote significantly fewer Shepards. Picturing a Biotic Shepard is quite easy for me. He/She is on the screen. To me Biotics aren't really super-natural. They are no more supernatural than the Mass Relays or space-flight. Although they are not super-natural they are definitely science-fiction. But, then again, so is Batman. Disregarding the comic and older batman incarnations (who used such fanciful devices as "shark-repellant) the current Batman has significantly fewer science-fiction toys. However the cell-phone system displayed in the last movie is clearly beyond the scope of current technology. While this isn't inherently part of Batman it is something he uses. However Batman also uses his prodigious intellect and wealth, both things he was born with, to overcome his foes. I see Biotics in the same light. They are inheritted gifts of a future world, not common, but not extra-ordinary.

[PrinceLionheart]

Aklis wrote...

I don't have any issues with Shep's gender, either. I think my problem comes from the fact that if Shepard was a biotic, it would be mentioned much more than it actually is.

I think the gender thing stems from the the biotic teammates. Miranda, Liara, Samara, Jack, all their biotic abilities actually play a role in their characters. The only male character who's abilities actually comes into the story is Kaidan. Wrex, Thane, and Jacob are all biotics but they never talk about it.

For my MaleShep, I can easily role play him as a Vanguard just because it's such a CQC character. But at the same time I can understand the "Badass Normal" argument. Its easier to imagine your character being this superhuman without the need of super abilities. 

[Apathy1989]

If they would have made it so all cutscenes don't have an adept holding an assault rifle, it would be more believable. They didn't really add stuff to cutscenes that make classes differentiate, which would have been nice.

eg, knock someone down with throw during convo. or your hands glow rather than you holding a gun.

Or in purgatory, you say "heh, I'm a biotic, you think you can disarm me by taking my guns?"

[Whoo71]

I started ME1 as an Adept, and I was angered that I could only have training with a pistol. So I switched to Vanguard and stayed that class in both games.

Modifié par Whoo71, 17 avril 2011 - 04:56 .

[Obvakhi]

I agree, I'm a soldier through and through. Since Shepard never uses biotics in cutscenes and is seen using assault rifles... it's obvious Shepard was meant to be a soldier.
Biotics and tech powers are better suited to a support role, which is what my squad is for.

However, the default Shepard uses biotics in one of the ME2 trailers.


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Modifié par Obvakhi, 17 avril 2011 - 09:19 .

[Zebron is reaL]

To me, it'd be weird if Shepard was NOT a biotic

[100k]

Apathy1989 wrote...

If they would have made it so all cutscenes don't have an adept holding an assault rifle, it would be more believable. They didn't really add stuff to cutscenes that make classes differentiate, which would have been nice.

eg, knock someone down with throw during convo. or your hands glow rather than you holding a gun.

Or in purgatory, you say "heh, I'm a biotic, you think you can disarm me by taking my guns?"

This. THIIIIIIIIIIS! 

DA2 had something similar, where the cutscene essentials would stay the same, but instead of being a soldier, you were a mage if you were that class.

[100k]

Obvakhi wrote...

However, the default Shepard uses biotics in one of the ME2 trailers.

The default marketing Shepard for ME2 is a Vanguard.

[cactusberry]

OP, I totally agree. My Shepard is always a soldier.

[Cypher0020]

I can only see my Sheps as biotics, male and female I roll either vanguards or sentinels for that nice mix.... I'm still trying to get used to ME2's Adept in my next run

I was hoping you could expand more with biotics... like become a biotic super sayian or something

[jamesp81]

Aklis wrote...

My first character, back in 2007, was a Male Soldier, Spacer/War Hero with the default appearance. Since then I've played plenty of Soldiers and Infiltrators, and one engineer, with all kinds of backgrounds/reputations. I have never ever completed a playthrough as either a Vanguard, Adept or Sentinel.

Why? I just can't see Shepard as a biotic. For some reason, my Shepard just isn't biotic. I just can't wrap my head around it. For me, Shepard is definitely a Badass Normal.

http://tvtropes.org/...in/BadassNormal

What are your opinions?

Yeah, I never could see him as a biotic.  To me, he was always just a soldier, doing his duty the best he could.

Of course, it could also have to do with the fact that I'm a gun nut, and firearms are something I understand very well.

My MainShep will always be a soldier, although I could almost roll with him as an Engineer or Infiltrator.  Combat Engineers are their own kind of badass, and snipers are known badasses as well.

Modifié par jamesp81, 18 avril 2011 - 12:09 .

[Unionhack]

(Yeah, it's 5 months old, but I do wanna confirm a point that I don't know to be true or not.)
My main Shep, Varos Shepard, is an inflitrator, but I don't have any trouble with seeing Shepard as a biotic.
My other two serious Shepards, Orion Shepard (Sentinel) and Rhaya Shepard (Adept) are biotics, but it doesn't make much of a difference to me.
I do remember reading something on the wiki, however, that says something along the lines that Shepard is a biotic regardless of class; with Engineers, Soldiers, and Infiltrators, he just didn't get any implants. Something along those lines. He was canonically exposed to eezo by accident as well, if I do recall correctly. Perhaps I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

[Guywhoiam]

Unionhack wrote...

(Yeah, it's 5 months old, but I do wanna confirm a point that I don't know to be true or not.)
My main Shep, Varos Shepard, is an inflitrator, but I don't have any trouble with seeing Shepard as a biotic.
My other two serious Shepards, Orion Shepard (Sentinel) and Rhaya Shepard (Adept) are biotics, but it doesn't make much of a difference to me.
I do remember reading something on the wiki, however, that says something along the lines that Shepard is a biotic regardless of class; with Engineers, Soldiers, and Infiltrators, he just didn't get any implants. Something along those lines. He was canonically exposed to eezo by accident as well, if I do recall correctly. Perhaps I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

Well, according to the Time-line on the wiki, it says that Shepard was exposed to some Element Zero, and permantent biotic inclination manifests. But that could just be in there for the biotic Shepards, or it could have meant to happen to all. It would explain why my Soldier can use Stasis as a bonus power.

From the ME Wiki:
2168 CE

Kaidan Alenko accidentally kills Commander Vyrnnus after being provoked. The diplomatic fallout with the turians results in BAaT being shut down a year later.

Shepard receives secondary exposure to element zero. Permanent biotic inclination manifests.

[Darkphalanax]

I'm starting to play as Vanguard now.. I never saw an issue with the character class specialization. As you know, Shepard can use biotic power even if you aren't a biotic specialist (for example, my first "run" was an infiltrator with barrier and reave). It's know that Shepard have biotic powers, regardless his/her class for the element zero exposure.

Speaking of what suits better for Shepard, I think is the infiltrator, for his/her status as spectre. Soldier is "too mainstream"... haha!!

[Unionhack]

I think that playing as a non-biotic is kinda inspiring... Makes Commander Shepard a potential member of the Badass Normal trope.
I do believe that perhaps some Shepards are just better biotics than others, though. Some are just better with guns.
As for which class fits Shepard best, there's none to me; the point of Shepard is that the game gives you a template for a character, and you build on that. My favorite class is Infiltrator, but I've also beat the game as a Sentinel (that was fun, too), and I'm working on Adept. I've played as all six classes though. None beat infiltrator for me.
All the classes appeal to Shepard, really.
Soldier - Makes Shepard the badass runner and gunner guy that can fire any weapon in existence.
Infiltrator - Fits well with the Spectre Status, and who wouldn't want a precise sniper leading the galaxy?
Sentinel - Unique tech/biotic mixed abilities make him a powerful combatant.
Adept - Being a powerful biotic makes him a force to be reckoned with.
Vanguard - Isn't afraid to put himself in the line of fire if it means winning the battle in a flash.
Engineer - Appeals to the hacking and bypassing minigames, and hey, he can fix his own gun

[Gallimatia]

Apathy1989 wrote...

If they would have made it so all cutscenes don't have an adept holding an assault rifle, it would be more believable. They didn't really add stuff to cutscenes that make classes differentiate, which would have been nice.

eg, knock someone down with throw during convo. or your hands glow rather than you holding a gun.

Or in purgatory, you say "heh, I'm a biotic, you think you can disarm me by taking my guns?"

One scene that comes to mind is when you wake Grunt.

Grunt: If you are worthy of your Command prove your strength and try to destroy me.

In response biotic Shepard fires a handgun. Bullets bounce. Anticlimax.

[isonadekun]

weirdopo wrote...

Unionhack wrote...

(Yeah, it's 5 months old, but I do wanna confirm a point that I don't know to be true or not.)
My main Shep, Varos Shepard, is an inflitrator, but I don't have any trouble with seeing Shepard as a biotic.
My other two serious Shepards, Orion Shepard (Sentinel) and Rhaya Shepard (Adept) are biotics, but it doesn't make much of a difference to me.
I do remember reading something on the wiki, however, that says something along the lines that Shepard is a biotic regardless of class; with Engineers, Soldiers, and Infiltrators, he just didn't get any implants. Something along those lines. He was canonically exposed to eezo by accident as well, if I do recall correctly. Perhaps I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

Well, according to the Time-line on the wiki, it says that Shepard was exposed to some Element Zero, and permantent biotic inclination manifests. But that could just be in there for the biotic Shepards, or it could have meant to happen to all. It would explain why my Soldier can use Stasis as a bonus power.

From the ME Wiki:
2168 CE

Kaidan Alenko accidentally kills Commander Vyrnnus after being provoked. The diplomatic fallout with the turians results in BAaT being shut down a year later.

Shepard receives secondary exposure to element zero. Permanent biotic inclination manifests.

i've read that too, some time ago. and if it is in the timeline, it's canon. fixed for all "shepards".

[July R. Legend]

I only see John & Jane Shepard to be Soldiers. Being anything else doesn't mix well with the personalties that you can make them out to be in the cutscenes.

Jane Shepard however could be a good role for Infiltrator though...

[saMoorai]

I can't see Shepard as being anything other then one of humanity's most powerful biotics.