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[Gamer Ftw]

I am conflicted between liking her her and being frustrated she is so daft.
I mean she is sweet but she gets lost after 3 years in the same place?
And you live in the city now buy some freaking shoes.
Also the Demon is not your pet please stop playing hopscotch with him.
I mean I feel bad because she lives in a horrible slum and everything I hate feeling bad for people.
and her situation never gets better it's depressing.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 16 avril 2011 - 10:49 .

[frustratemyself]

It's Kirkwall, elves aren't allowed to have shoes.

[Knight of Dane]

Go into one of the Merrill threads, the people in there beat me to argument for her, i have all but given up following their pace ^^

[Sarcastic Tasha]

My Warden made deals with demons all the time, never did her any harm (demons that look like cats can't be evil right?). My Hawke also made a deal with the sloth demon and that turned out splendidly (yay 6 attribute points).

Easy solution for feeling bad about Merrill living in a hovel, invite her to move in with Hawke.

[frustratemyself]

Gotta admit it's a pretty spacious hovel.
If you want to feel sorry for it her it should be because she looks like a praying mantis. That and the naivety.

[Gamer Ftw]

I would have liked to ask her to move in but i didn't want to romance her.

[Nerdage]

I thought Merrill was wiser than Anders when it comes to spirits (including demons), she knows that you can't fully trust *any* spirit, whereas Anders still seems caught in this romantic idea that you can take a spirit at face value. Though she doesn't put it into practice very well sometimes, the banter between her and Andres where she talks about how the dalish don't see the fade as the home of their gods had me going "Exactly!".

Modifié par nerdage, 16 avril 2011 - 02:51 .

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I liked the Merrill romance, but I did like Isabela too. Can't decide who I like best. I don't think Merrill minds living in the alienage, muggings are exciting. I do wish she'd made some friends in the alienage though, from playing the city elf origin in the first game I feel like she was missing out on the sense of community city elves have.

[frustratemyself]

She also says about the demon she has been dealing with that their relationship is strictly platonic. To me that says she is blindly ignoring that demons will play on a persons desires & motivations in order to strike a bargain and gain access to a mortal body.
She thinks that she can get what she wants/needs while avoiding the danger of becoming an abomination. So did Anders and look what he does in the name of good intentions.

[jaybee93]

I actually adore Merrill in DA2 but having just re-played the Dalish origin scenes I have to say, she certainly has changed. There's a hint of future Merrill in there but the original is much more... um... confident, coherent... and she wears shoes.

[Eternal Phoenix]

I hate her. This is one of the many flaws of DA2 - they don't allow us to kill her. Why would my mage hating templar warrior who sided with the templars want anything to do with her? B*tch was responsible for her clan's death too.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 16 avril 2011 - 03:10 .

[Masako52]

I was replaying the Dalish Origins the other day to compare Merrill, and noooo, DA2 Merrill is superior in every single way. Has anyone made a mod to make DAO Merrill look more like DA2 Merrill? Bonus points if Welsh accent is included!!

[SleepyBird]

frustratemyself wrote...

Gotta admit it's a pretty spacious hovel.
If you want to feel sorry for it her it should be because she looks like a praying mantis. That and the naivety.

Every time I visited her in act one, I'd get annoyed when she complained about her house.  I wanted to shout at her that it was so much better than the one I was sharing with my whole damn family.  She has a nice comfy looking bed, and even a bathroom of sorts!  Of course Fenris never offered to let us move in to one of his spare twenty rooms, either, preferring to let the corpses rot undisturbed for seven years.  No wonder humans hate elves in this game.  Greedy not-sharing-their-houses bastards...

[pimple]

I second everything said by SleepyBird.

[LobselVith8]

frustratemyself wrote...

She also says about the demon she has been dealing with that their relationship is strictly platonic. To me that says she is blindly ignoring that demons will play on a persons desires & motivations in order to strike a bargain and gain access to a mortal body.

Because she made a joke?

She does plan for the possibility of her death and addresses that all spirits are dangerous (and the distinction between spirits and demons is Andrastian), so I respectfully disagree.

frustratemyself wrote...

She thinks that she can get what she wants/needs while avoiding the danger of becoming an abomination. So did Anders and look what he does in the name of good intentions.

Merrill asks Hawke to kill her if Audacity takes her over, so I dont agree with your assessment.

[Fieryeel]

Frankly, I was really surprised by how large Merrill's Alienage home was.

Wait a sec, how did she even get a house?

[Fruit of the Doom]

Fieryeel wrote...

Frankly, I was really surprised by how large Merrill's Alienage home was.

Wait a sec, how did she even get a house?

Enchantment!

[Inzhuna]

Fieryeel wrote...

Frankly, I was really surprised by how large Merrill's Alienage home was.

Wait a sec, how did she even get a house?

Exactly. This bugged me for a while. Her house is like 1/4 of the Alienage.

[lanmao]

Inzhuna wrote...

Fieryeel wrote...

Frankly, I was really surprised by how large Merrill's Alienage home was.

Wait a sec, how did she even get a house?

Exactly. This bugged me for a while. Her house is like 1/4 of the Alienage.

She's a blood mage.  Would you refuse to give her your house?

[Paper420]

LOL, she looked better on DAO

[TheAwesomologist]

Fieryeel wrote...

Frankly, I was really surprised by how large Merrill's Alienage home was.

Wait a sec, how did she even get a house?

I always figured that was Varric's doing considering how much he looks out for her.

[frustratemyself]

LobselVith8 wrote...

frustratemyself wrote...

She also says about the demon she has been dealing with that their relationship is strictly platonic. To me that says she is blindly ignoring that demons will play on a persons desires & motivations in order to strike a bargain and gain access to a mortal body.

Because she made a joke?

She does plan for the possibility of her death and addresses that all spirits are dangerous (and the distinction between spirits and demons is Andrastian), so I respectfully disagree.

frustratemyself wrote...

She thinks that she can get what she wants/needs while avoiding the danger of becoming an abomination. So did Anders and look what he does in the name of good intentions.

Merrill asks Hawke to kill her if Audacity takes her over, so I dont agree with your assessment.

I'm not sure Merrill has that much of a sense of humour, I took it that she genuinely meant that statement. Although playing mostly as mages I haven't gotten out with much so I haven't gotten to know her too well.

It just seems like a ridiculously dangerous path to go down for little or no result. It may turn out great or I may become a monster that you'll have to kill. Even if it had all gone how she planned I don't think she would have gotten what she really wanted which was to restore Dalish/elven culture to what it was before the fall of Arlathan.

Maybe it's time for the Dalish to stop looking backwards and start looking forward.

[Shacary]

I didnt hate her but I have to say the Mother Hen like personailty in DAO was way more appropiate for a would be keeper. but that being said , I really just kinda took her in DA2 like a NEW character cuz whatever she was in DAO wasnt there in DA2. That being said I didnt dislike her in DA2, I thought she was kinda ditzy but funny, sweet and when she raged kinda reminded me of my kid niece!

[LobselVith8]

frustratemyself wrote...

I'm not sure Merrill has that much of a sense of humour, I took it that she genuinely meant that statement. Although playing mostly as mages I haven't gotten out with much so I haven't gotten to know her too well.

You've never heard her talking to Bethany about "Feathers" then.

frustratemyself wrote...

It just seems like a ridiculously dangerous path to go down for little or no result. It may turn out great or I may become a monster that you'll have to kill. Even if it had all gone how she planned I don't think she would have gotten what she really wanted which was to restore Dalish/elven culture to what it was before the fall of Arlathan.

Maybe it's time for the Dalish to stop looking backwards and start looking forward.

It seems ridiculous to you, but it's clearly important to her. Merrill understands the dangers involved, and is willing to pay with her life. Anders also assumes that she doesn't understand the risks, but she clarifies this point when she says, "Anders... there's no such thing as a good spirit. There never was. All spirits are dangerous. I understood that. I'm sorry that you didn't."

The philosopher George Santayana would disagree. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[Gamer Ftw]

I don't think Merrill understood she wasn't the only one she is putting at risk.