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[Dragoonlordz]

CaimDark wrote...

I'm not sure if this guy is trolling or genuinely asking, but here goes... I always play as a male on my first playthrough, but if I like the game enough to replay it and I can choose gender I then play as a female to see the different dialogue and interactions. I always name the female character after my wife, and for some reaon she loves that, go figure...
I recently started playing WoW, and made a secondary female character (guess who I named her after...) to try a different class, and It's rather funny to see the difference in treatment. Playing as a male character, most players largely ignore me, and when they don't, it's usually to curse my poor mother's name because of my noobness. As a female, people are actually interested in small talk with me and my mother has yet to be cursed...

That's quite clever I will admit. A way to bring some harmony from relationship point of view when engrossed in a single player title at least he/she is with you in spirit in game.

Don't forget the freebies in you can quite easily get as a female toon in MMOs. With the bit I underlined make a healer class regardless of gender and that all changes.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 17 avril 2011 - 03:01 .

[Sabariel]

okrane_silver wrote...

What the hell is with all these dudes playing female characters in a Role Playing Game?

 

So they can stare at Lady Hawke's rapidly swinging... hips for 30+ hours? Just my hunch...

[Kajan451]

okrane_silver wrote...

What the hell is with all these dudes playing female characters in a Role Playing Game?

Assuming i am playing somewhere between 4 and 6 hours every day.... it kind of feels less gay to stare at a wellformed female polygon booty as it does to stare the same amount of time at some hairy guys arse.

But hey, each to their own. Some guys prefer the guys arse over the sexy female booties.

[Shazzie]

I never stare at my character's backside, so I don't really understand that argument... but I guess plenty of others do. I'm too busy looking at the environment, interactable NPCs, opponents, everything going on around me... I gain nothing by staring at my character's backside, and am more likely to miss something actually happening, if I do so. So this one has always confused me.

Nor do I really understand the 'it's a role playing game, I put myself in a different role playing a female' when...actually attempting to be and/or understand a female (even in a game) to truly play the role is the LAST thing they want to do. Not saying this fits everyone, but it does fit a few guys I personally know... most of them just want to see hot lez action (if in a single player RPG), or (if it's an MMO) try to get guys to give them freebies/treat them special.

<shrug> To each their own. Everybody has their own reasons, lumping it all into 'Why guys play female characters' will never, ever work.

I'm a female, and I never play male characters when given a choice. The character is, to me, an extension of 'me', and I'm just not comfortable playing a guy. Even if my female character acts NOTHING like me, I still need to have that 'link' somehow. I never feel like I'm truly *into* the character, if it's a guy. But that's just me, and I don't expect anyone else to be the same.

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Many people play a character that is an in-game version of themselves. I don't, I like to play a variety of different characters. For me, that's part of the fun of a Roleplaying Game. I'm not sure how any of this has to do with real life sexual preference as some seem to suggest. Do writers who write novels only write characters who are their real life gender? I sure hope not, that would lead to a ton of very boring and bizarre books.

Neither do artists only illustrate their own gender in their work. I remember taking figure drawing classes when I was sixteen and some of my non-artist friends' comments were either "oh wow, was the girl hot?" or "man, drawing other dudes naked is kind of gay." They completely missed the point that it was all about character study. To me, roleplay is about creative character study too, but less in a visual way of course. It's a psychological game, whether the media is PnP and interaction with other players or acting in a play or even the far more limiting experience of cRPGs by choosing a story, race, gender and responses as I go along playing the game.

It's everyone's choice of course to play what character they feel comfortible playing. To me, gender is just another fun variable in creating interesting characters which can open up a new perspective on a RPG. It's the game outside of what is purchased in the box at the store and sometimes it's just as rewarding to me as playing the software.

[Shirosaki17]

Shazzie wrote...

I never stare at my character's backside, so I don't really understand that argument... but I guess plenty of others do. I'm too busy looking at the environment, interactable NPCs, opponents, everything going on around me... I gain nothing by staring at my character's backside, and am more likely to miss something actually happening, if I do so. So this one has always confused me.

It's just a stupid excuse to make men who roleplay as women feel better about their choice.

[Sabariel]

Shazzie wrote...

I never stare at my character's backside, so I don't really understand that argument... but I guess plenty of others do. I'm too busy looking at the environment, interactable NPCs, opponents, everything going on around me... I gain nothing by staring at my character's backside, and am more likely to miss something actually happening, if I do so. So this one has always confused me.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm just kidding when I use the "stare-at-her-behind" argument

[Fidget6]

Kajan451 wrote...
But hey, each to their own. Some guys prefer the guys arse over the sexy female booties.

Modifié par Fidget6, 17 avril 2011 - 06:21 .

[CaimDark]

Shazzie wrote...
I'm a female, and I never play male characters when given a choice. The character is, to me, an extension of 'me', and I'm just not comfortable playing a guy. Even if my female character acts NOTHING like me, I still need to have that 'link' somehow. I never feel like I'm truly *into* the character, if it's a guy. But that's just me, and I don't expect anyone else to be the same.

Many people feel that way, but curiously, despite the fact that RPGs are by far my favorite genre, I never see my characters as an extension of "me". When I play an RPG or even something like Assassins Creed 2 I like to roleplay, get involved with the stories, characters and world, and "be" the character, but the character is always the character, not "me". Maybe I got that from starting out with tabletop RPGs and JRPGs (which at the time were simple called RPG! Man, I'm getting old!), and it was not until several years later that I played Baldur's Gate 2, the game that introduced me to the "blank slate" protagonist. That's probably why I prefer a voiced protagonist and enjoy playing as a female just as much as I enjoy playing as a male.

[silver-crescent]

I usually play as both males and females. So for the sake of variety I guess? These games are always more fun if you try different characters.

Modifié par silver-crescent, 17 avril 2011 - 08:24 .

[doloreg]

I always play as a male first, and try to insert myself into the story. After that's done, i make characters, and think what a dalish would do, or what a mage would do etc. There's no problem if that character is female.
(Plus in DA2 romancing isabela with ladyhawke is win.)

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Shazzie wrote...
I'm a female, and I never play male characters when given a choice. The character is, to me, an extension of 'me', and I'm just not comfortable playing a guy. Even if my female character acts NOTHING like me, I still need to have that 'link' somehow. I never feel like I'm truly *into* the character, if it's a guy. But that's just me, and I don't expect anyone else to be the same.

I understand. I feel the same way. I can never get into female character because I don't truly understand how female perceive and feel.  But when you paid $60 and you get a problematic AI who thinks it's better to have it's own personality and talks on it's own, how is it possible anymore to make an extension of myself through this BioWare self impose image character? Some people can pretend to be gay in their role-play when IRL they're straight. But not me. I can't stand using other people image/personality/behavior for my character for more than 20 minutes, even if they're all males. The game would end up in trash bin like Mass Effect 2, Alpha Protocol and Assassin Creed 2. All this games have great story but it's useless to me simply because of the character. I hate predefined characters. DA 2 would also end up the same way as others. But I choose not to toss anymore money into trash bins. If I can't role-play my character properly, I might as well play non player character with females like Marian Hawke. And no, Hawke is not my character. Hawke is NPC. I don't have any player character to play in DA 2 which is why it's sucks. 

[ToJKa1]

daemon1129 wrote...

ToJKa1 wrote...

daemon1129 wrote...

I would never play as a female character if I have choices. I feel like cross dressing if I play as female in rpgs.

The key to playing a character of opposite sex is not playing "as" the character, but "with" the character. Might hurt "immersion", whatever that is, but i've never been immersed by anything. Except water.

I can understand why the "with" and not "as", but that defeats the purpose for me for playing rpgs. 

And i can understand that. Personally i find playing as myself more awkaward though, mainly because there rarely is an available choice i myself would make. And "running away screaming like a little girl" is not a viable combat tactic

[k177sh0t]

Made a female Hawke and was intrigued when I thought of myself as Fenris when romancing Hawke :3

Well thats how I felt.

[Tirigon]

Otterwarden wrote...


I'm going to give it a shot at paraphrasing.  Bioware basically creates their characters based on their market segments.  For the anime watching fanbois there is weird cartoony character (Merril?Fenris?), for those really kinky there is Liara.  Isabela was thrown in because they found that a larger portion of their fans were boob influenced.  This pandering to target audiences is what "Mad Men" is all about.  Zevran was offered up to gays and the unfulfilled housewives. 

Last line is difficult to translate, but seems to have something to do with the move away from the cerebral RPG to the more action adventure style.

Eh Liara is the most innocent and non-kinky of all LIs ever created.

[Tirigon]

ToJKa1 wrote...

And i can understand that. Personally i find playing as myself more awkaward though, mainly because there rarely is an available choice i myself would make. And "running away screaming like a little girl" is not a viable combat tactic

Of course it is.

Rephrase that as "kiting" and it´s the most common tactic on nightmare, actually:wizard:

[ToJKa1]

Ah yes, you are right. That's how most combat encounters with a mage in Origins before getting Arcane Warrior and all combat in DA2 witha  mage happens Especially the "duel"

Modifié par ToJKa1, 17 avril 2011 - 11:26 .

[Tirigon]

ToJKa1 wrote...

Ah yes, you are right. That's how most combat encounters with a mage in Origins before getting Arcane Warrior and all combat in DA2 witha  mage happens Especially the "duel"

Not in Origins, though. just get Inferno and glyph of repulsion asap and you can wipe out most enemies by yourself, at least those in rooms (block the door with the glyph).

[Get Magna Carter]

The big question is if you think of the character as being "yourself" or not.
I am not a warrior, a rogue or a mage.
I would die in no time at all.
I am not Hawke.
Why should Hawke be the same gender as me ?
(Note - I understand most people who play Sega's Sonic games are not blue hedgehogs in real life)

[BY-TOR STORMDRAGON]

Third-playthrough and created a bi-babe. had it out with Isabella- that was a hoot! I played Final Fantasy X-2 and found it hysterical. I liked all 3 ladies in that game- never played as a femme' before. The ladyhawke in my game kicks ass, and I like the changing atmosphere of relationships- since all we can do is stare at Kirkwall otherwise. ((Yawn))

[TMZuk]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

I don't know. It was a study done on Fox News, about cross dressing gamers. They were able to prove that male gamers who played as women instead of men were more likely to either dress up in women's clothing or have done so in the past.

Judging by how many guys here admit to playing as women, it shouldn't take long to find the guy you're looking for.

Goodness.... I'm a crossdressing tranvestite closet-gay... and all these years I never knew..... :lol: I better get myself a new wardrobe.

[Alex Kershaw]

Nothing wrong with it!

[ToJKa1]

Tirigon wrote...

ToJKa1 wrote...

Ah yes, you are right. That's how most combat encounters with a mage in Origins before getting Arcane Warrior and all combat in DA2 witha  mage happens Especially the "duel"

Not in Origins, though. just get Inferno and glyph of repulsion asap and you can wipe out most enemies by yourself, at least those in rooms (block the door with the glyph).

Well i mostly just used Mana Clash, Glyph Explosion and Tempest, but before getting those spells life as a mage could be a bit tough.

Anyway on topic, I commonly play three female characters in all RPGs i come across: a goody two-shoes battle mage (mods that remove stast requirement from equipment allows this in DA2), a selfish unsymphatetic assassin (sarcastic default lady Hawke was nearly perfect, but couldn't be selfish enough IMO), and a mercenary type using unreasonably big weapons. And still my only interest in female clothing is in removing them

Modifié par ToJKa1, 17 avril 2011 - 01:03 .

[CaimDark]

Shirosaki17 wrote...

I don't know. It was a study done on Fox News, about cross dressing gamers. They were able to prove that male gamers who played as women instead of men were more likely to either dress up in women's clothing or have done so in the past.

Judging by how many guys here admit to playing as women, it shouldn't take long to find the guy you're looking for.

:lol::lol::lol:

If anyone has a link, I'd love to see this "study". Specially since it's on Fox. It should be highly entertaining!

[jmbrosendo]

CaimDark wrote...

I'm not sure if this guy is trolling or genuinely asking, but here goes... I always play as a male on my first playthrough, but if I like the game enough to replay it and I can choose gender I then play as a female to see the different dialogue and interactions. I always name the female character after my wife, and for some reaon she loves that, go figure...

Rofl, I did that once for the laughs, till I told her I made the character a real baddass, angry and evil all the time. The incoming slipper narrowly missed my head and hit the screen.

She never plays as a guy, but then She never plays a game more than once. I do use her expertise into shaping my characters visually oftenly, as She, for one loves doing that, then again has a much better aesthethic sense than I do.


Btw, I also hate games with bikini armors, and barbarian wearing things for that matter, sexual cutscenes (a fade to black is preferable), never have engaged in any same gender relationship on any game male or female(including Fallout2 , where you can actually marry a dude), and all the female clothing in my closet belongs to my dearest.


I distance my own persona from the character I am roleplaying, the farthest I go is setting a type of personality, attitude and go with it. If I was that much involved in reliving the setting through the character's eyes, I doubt I'd ever play a female. I have no remote idea how it feels to be a woman, and frankly am not interested.


In the end why play a female? Same reason as to why I try playing as a rogue and a mage, or dwarf, elf, instead of the standard human male warrior.

If it offers exactly the same gameplay, dialogue, I would not bother with it. In Daggerfall for instance the only difference between male or female are stats, and a portrait.