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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Lumek wrote...

Whereto wrote...

I like the soldier class for one reason only- and this is the reason why its on my main- because if he or she is a soldier it means they have nothing special about them. What do i mean by that? well if your a biotic, you were born great really. Soldier, infiltrator and engineer shep have nothing special about them and dont feel chosen thus more or less ascend to greatness. I know the biotics do to, but the soldiers just feel a that little be more special to me.

Of course i dont speak for everyone, so just stating my opinion

sorry, but that's not actually true. While yes, Biotic Shepard is born with some abilities that grant him his awesomeness, but those abilities are worth nothing without implants. However, that's the same case with Soldier shep. Soldiers (and to a lesser extend infiltrators and vanguards) all have genetic modifications, implants, etc. The point is, while yes, Shepard isn't using supernatural he was born with to  be a badass, he's still not normal, He's basically a supersoldier, not just a man who trained to use a gun.

Everyone in the alliance military recieves gene-modifications.

[Neophyte Padawan]

While I can see the appeal of seeing Shepard as an ordinary person with extraordinary abilities, I tend to see him/her as the best that humanity can be - and that to me means having as many talents to bring to the battlefield as possible, including biotics. He/she is made the first human spectre for a reason, after all!

I've always enjoyed magic-style classes in RPGs, though, so I am a bit biased!

[Ahglock]

Aklis wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

You talk like Soldier Shep is just any regular dude, but that's not the case. He is probably one of the strongest and more athletic people in the world. Just because it's not supernatural, it does not mean it's not great.

He's athletic, yes. Why? Training. However much sense it would make, I doubt that Shep just popped out of his mother as the dude (or broad) we know him (her) as today.

Funny I see it just the oppsite way.  I see soldier shep as the guy who is so naturally atheltic sodliering came easy to him, with training he became the best humanity could offer.  Adepts and other bitoics require ridiculous training just to make thier powers work, to make them also combat ready is an astounding feat of hard work.  They both work hard, but the sodlier seems more the natural talent to me.  That is why he isn't just a good soldier but the best sodler out there.  Adept soldier had biotics sure, but he needed those and just as much or more hard work just to break even with mr natural talent.  Using the previous example Naruto the adept required having the nine tails in him on top of the hard work to match the natural talent of sasuke the soldier.  

[Aklis]

Ahglock wrote...

Funny I see it just the oppsite way.  I see soldier shep as the guy who is so naturally atheltic sodliering came easy to him, with training he became the best humanity could offer.  Adepts and other bitoics require ridiculous training just to make thier powers work, to make them also combat ready is an astounding feat of hard work.  They both work hard, but the sodlier seems more the natural talent to me.  That is why he isn't just a good soldier but the best sodler out there.  Adept soldier had biotics sure, but he needed those and just as much or more hard work just to break even with mr natural talent.  Using the previous example Naruto the adept required having the nine tails in him on top of the hard work to match the natural talent of sasuke the soldier.  

When you see it that way, it definitely presents the biotic Shepard in a completely new light, as "the man who had to overcome inner difficulties to become who he is today". I guess it is all depending on how you view it. I just restarted, finished Eden Prime not two minutes ago, but I might actually restart and do a playthrough with your view of the world, so to speak.

Thank you, it was very much appreciated.

[naledgeborn]

levannar wrote...

Story-wise, I can definitely understand the appeal of the Soldier class in ME2. It may sound strange, but with Jack on the team, Shepard feels much more average and less unique as a biotic to me than (s)he does as a Soldier. It is explicitly stated that Jack is the most powerful human biotic, and therefore, a biotic Shepard is inferior to her. Whereas as a Soldier, Shepard is the very best. Think of it like this: a team of the galaxy's best engineers and most powerful biotics is led by the best soldier.

Having said that, I always play biotic Shepards. I just feel that ME2's story seems to push you a little towards the Soldier class, which never happened in ME1 because it wasn't about gathering the best team.

This is why my #2 Shepard is a Sentinel. Jack of all trades, master of none. But in the end, biotic or non-biotic. What makes Shepard stand out amongst the rest of the galaxy is his iron will and the charmisma (lol whut? not in game of course) of a great leader.

[g-w-m]

Personally I find it a bit predictable that pretty much all of the important playable humans are partially biotic except for Williams. So I find it more interesting to play a Soldier Shep on the premise that he's not gifted with biotics but he still achieves greatness.

They should have made Jacob a straight Soldier/Infiltrator in ME2 so he wouldn't have been so useless. But instead it was sort of "I'm an important human so I MUST have biotic abilities", if you get my drift. Whether non-biotic Shep has enhancements or not its still a nice touch to have him be one of the most important Human's in the galaxy yet not having the predictable biotic ability.

[Freeride600]

Bondkakan wrote...

Vanguard is the most fun class in the game imo. Biotic charge is the definition of awesome.

This. Biotic classes are beast.

Honestly, it took me forever to play soldier... it was just BORING. Charge FTW!

[eye basher]

i found charge to be completely worthless i used it twice and then just kept using pull field and shockwave with the vanguard i was playing.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Roleplay: During cutscenes,you will never see Shepard use biotics,but he uses assault rifles even if he's not a soldier class.That can be annoying,especially during Arrival,when unarmed biotic Shep punches two guards instead just using biotics on them. Also,I think soldier fits Shep's personality,Paragon or Renegade.

Yeah, that always annoyed me in both games, the way in cutscenes he/she is always holding an assault rifle.  I mean, the look of the assult rifle is always proper to the one you are using at the time, as is your armor, etc... so why couldn't they have had you using your pistol or rifle or sniper rifle or shotgun, whatever weapon you prefer at the time?  Even worse when you are an adept or someone that can't use an assault rifle, so why the hell are you even carrying a gun you cannot use?

[Jarlaxlecq]

my favorite way to play the game is as a Vanguard, that being said yeah i dont see shepard as a biotic, my "canon" shepard is an infiltrator. Why? because everyone references shepard as a bad ass warrior and there are several references to his Hacking experitice. Infiltrator is the class that best channels that. i for one wish the games had done a better job changing shepards reactions and others reactions to him more on class... but alas they havent so infiltrator it is.

[Mathy 16]

I've done every class except for the infiltrator... because I really suck at sniping and I don't like that sneaking around thingy

[AngelicMachinery]

I love watching my enemies bounce around the battlefield, after playing an adept it might be tough to playing a run and gun character.

[jmood88]

Soldier is always the most boring class in any rpg so I never made any of my Shepards as one.

[Scottaud]

Aklis wrote...

I have no doubt that it is fun, but I just can't see Shepard as a biotic for some odd reason.

Have you played ME2 yet?
Biotic powers have advanced significantly from ME1 to ME2, so you might try that on ME2.
I won't play Sentinel, Vanguard, or Adept on ME1 becuase all of the powers take lots of time to regenerate. Also ME1 doesn't have Throw, which in my opinion is the best biotic power ever!!!!:lol:
I'll only play Soldier in ME1 and Sentinel in ME2.

[Scottaud]

Freeride600 wrote...

Bondkakan wrote...

Vanguard is the most fun class in the game imo. Biotic charge is the definition of awesome.

This. Biotic classes are beast.

Honestly, it took me forever to play soldier... it was just BORING. Charge FTW!

In which game both of you?

[Vyse_Fina]

Aklis wrote...
...
I just can't wrap my head around it. For me, Shepard is definitely a
Badass Normal.

http://tvtropes.org/...in/BadassNormal

What are your opinions?

My opinion would be that last time I checked, the great thing about RPGs is that you have the choice to do things your way. If you can't picture Shepard as an Adept, don't play as one. If you are still curious, go play as one and see if that changes your mind. If not, then you have your answear.

On a sidenote I'd like to start a petition to ban the word "badass" from the English language.

[uzivatel]

Hmm, never gave it much thought, but IMO Shepard is best as some combat heavy class - Soldier, Vanguard and Infiltrator.
The default spacer war hero soldier is pretty good, colonist ruthless vanguard warping and shotgunning his way through the Batarians on Torfan makes sense in my book and Earth-born sole survivor infiltrator is my "main" Shepard.
I could see Shepard using biotics, but I dont think the story would make as much sense, if his skills were anywhere near Kaiden, Miranda, Jack or the Asari. The same with tech skills - Tali or Mordin are tech people, Shepard should be the same level as Garrus.

Modifié par uzivatel, 22 avril 2011 - 08:50 .

[Maj.Pain007]

It doesn't matter what class because it does change anything in the story which kinda sucks.

[Urdnot Orrad]

levannar wrote...

Story-wise, I can definitely understand the appeal of the Soldier class in ME2. It may sound strange, but with Jack on the team, Shepard feels much more average and less unique as a biotic to me than (s)he does as a Soldier. It is explicitly stated that Jack is the most powerful human biotic, and therefore, a biotic Shepard is inferior to her. Whereas as a Soldier, Shepard is the very best. Think of it like this: a team of the galaxy's best engineers and most powerful biotics is led by the best soldier.

Having said that, I always play biotic Shepards. I just feel that ME2's story seems to push you a little towards the Soldier class, which never happened in ME1 because it wasn't about gathering the best team.

... A-ha... A-ha.. A-ha-ha... WRONG! It is said that Jack is supposed to be the most powerful human biotic, yes... that doesn't mean she is, because there is currently method of actually comapring and contrasting biotic power within individuals. Besides, playing as an Adept Shepard, you can very easily roleplay the idea that Shep's power matches-- or even exceeds-- Jack's... and that would be total Nightmare Fuel for Shep's enemies... especially if s/he and Jack are fighting side-by-side.

[Urdnot Orrad]

Urdnot Orrad wrote...

levannar wrote...

Story-wise, I can definitely understand the appeal of the Soldier class in ME2. It may sound strange, but with Jack on the team, Shepard feels much more average and less unique as a biotic to me than (s)he does as a Soldier. It is explicitly stated that Jack is the most powerful human biotic, and therefore, a biotic Shepard is inferior to her. Whereas as a Soldier, Shepard is the very best. Think of it like this: a team of the galaxy's best engineers and most powerful biotics is led by the best soldier.

Having said that, I always play biotic Shepards. I just feel that ME2's story seems to push you a little towards the Soldier class, which never happened in ME1 because it wasn't about gathering the best team.

... A-ha... A-ha.. A-ha-ha... WRONG! It is said that Jack is supposed to be the most powerful human biotic, yes... that doesn't mean she is, because there is currently no method of actually comapring and contrasting biotic power within individuals. Besides, playing as an Adept Shepard, you can very easily roleplay the idea that Shep's power matches-- or even exceeds-- Jack's... and that would be total Nightmare Fuel for Shep's enemies... especially if s/he and Jack are fighting side-by-side.

[Urdnot Orrad]

(Dammit... I hate that the quote/edit buttons are so close together...)

[Da Mecca]

I always played as a soldier, but my bonus power was always a biotic ability.

Might go Vanguard in ME3 since they can use any weapon now.