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[spacehamsterZH]

I seriously doubt it. The PS3 is the more powerful machine, but cross-platform games pretty much never take advantage of its superior hardware, often they actually end up looking worse on the PS3. The reason for this is that since more people have a 360, developers expect that version of a cross-platform game to sell more, so they develop for the 360 first and then port to the PS3. That's also why the PS3 exclusives (MGS4, Uncharted, Killzone) so often end up looking much better than the cross-platform titles - they're developed specifically for the platform and take advantage of its superior capabilities.

As for ME3, as far as I know the 360 version of ME2 massively outsold the PS3 version, so I would be very surprised if the PS3 version of ME3 was anything but a straight port from the 360. The only reason ME2 supposedly looked better on the PS3 (I've played the demo and I don't really see it, all I noticed was more glitches, and I'm saying this as someone who will always buy the PS3 version of cross-platform titles because I vastly prefer the PS3) was because it came out so much later and there was time to tweak it.

Plus, any way you slice it, you will never be able to import an ME1 save into a PS3 version of ME2/3.

[sympathy4saren]

This thread is going into LOCKDOWN here very shortly....

[lolwut666]

Well, how about this:

You admit that Bayonetta is superior on the X360 than on the PS3.

The game was released simultaniously on both platforms.

PS3 Bayonetta had to be patched after release because of all the screen-tearing, and it is STILL inferior to the X360 version.

I guess that should tell you which console is superior.

ME2 is arguably better on the PS3 because it spent a much longer time on development.

And you know what? PS3 version has buggy NG+, screen-tearing, lower framerate, and even out of synch audio on Freedom's Progress; problems that the X360 - and the PC version, as well - do not have. The only advantage the PS3 version has is that it comes with all DLC, but NONE of the DLC that comes with the PS3 version cannot be acquired for the PC or X360 versions (other than the comic, but that's only because PS3 does not have ME1).

I rest my case.

Modifié par lolwut666, 16 avril 2011 - 02:25 .

[Grey21]

Turnip Root wrote...

Grey21 wrote...

I have to admit, as a 360 owner this TC and topic are really annoying me. Not just because I've seen the PS3 version in action and it is only slightly looks better while having a worse framerate.

I'm really getting annoyed because the 360 has both games, nothing beats being able to bring your Shepard from start to finish. The way the TC formulates his first posts clearly shows he is aware of this and therefore hammers on how the PS3 version of ME2 is superior. I know it shouldn't annoy me but it does....

Anyway, I will answer the question just to show that we 360 owners are good people and not trolls as we all know some other people are... The PS3 version of ME2 is arguable superior as it uses the new ME3 engine. ME3 on the 360 will use this as well. It is impossible to say which version will be 'superior' but it is safe to say both versions will be very much alike. To such an extent that it doesn't really matter which one you get... unless you want to play through the entire story ofcourse

Having the comic book though is such an advantage though when it comes to being able to quickly customize a Shepard for a new playthrough.  It's much better than having to play all the way through Mass Effect 1 again.

I have no doubt that both versions of Mass Effect 3 will be similar but I think the PS3's hardware advantage will be apparent in the game's visuals, especially since Bioware knows how to program well with the PS3.

I wasn't expecting you would take that weak argument... Really? You would rather read a (what is it?) 10 page comic then play a game? In my opinion ME1 is still the best ME game, is has many flaws but the story and the way it is told are fantastic. A comic can't replace it. There are also many choices that you couldn't make in the comic and as a result your version of ME2 lacks certain content, making it the inferior version by default. (thanks for reminding me)

And weren't you 'wondering' if the PS3 version would be superior? You seem rather certain that it will be... It is a rather common troll strategy. Most people who start out trolling don't even know that they are doing it., so you better watch out for that. You may one day wake up, look into the mirror to see that you've been hit withthe ugly-stick.

[Turnip Root]

Way ahead of you there with Bayonetta lolwut666.

[PlumPaul93]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

This topic reminds me... My PS3 and 360 are so boring right now... I haven't touched them for like 2 weeks, I'm just playing PS2 and old PC games because the current games are so boring for some reason. Bring on the next generation already.

yeah I haven't played my xbox since the 5th and my cousin has borrowed my PS3 since like 2 months ago. No games are really interesting me right now for some reason.

[PlumPaul93]

also who cares its just a system bro

[Turnip Root]

Grey21 wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

Grey21 wrote...

I have to admit, as a 360 owner this TC and topic are really annoying me. Not just because I've seen the PS3 version in action and it is only slightly looks better while having a worse framerate.

I'm really getting annoyed because the 360 has both games, nothing beats being able to bring your Shepard from start to finish. The way the TC formulates his first posts clearly shows he is aware of this and therefore hammers on how the PS3 version of ME2 is superior. I know it shouldn't annoy me but it does....

Anyway, I will answer the question just to show that we 360 owners are good people and not trolls as we all know some other people are... The PS3 version of ME2 is arguable superior as it uses the new ME3 engine. ME3 on the 360 will use this as well. It is impossible to say which version will be 'superior' but it is safe to say both versions will be very much alike. To such an extent that it doesn't really matter which one you get... unless you want to play through the entire story ofcourse

Having the comic book though is such an advantage though when it comes to being able to quickly customize a Shepard for a new playthrough.  It's much better than having to play all the way through Mass Effect 1 again.

I have no doubt that both versions of Mass Effect 3 will be similar but I think the PS3's hardware advantage will be apparent in the game's visuals, especially since Bioware knows how to program well with the PS3.

I wasn't expecting you would take that weak argument... Really? You would rather read a (what is it?) 10 page comic then play a game? In my opinion ME1 is still the best ME game, is has many flaws but the story and the way it is told are fantastic. A comic can't replace it. There are also many choices that you couldn't make in the comic and as a result your version of ME2 lacks certain content, making it the inferior version by default. (thanks for reminding me)

And weren't you 'wondering' if the PS3 version would be superior? You seem rather certain that it will be... It is a rather common troll strategy. Most people who start out trolling don't even know that they are doing it., so you better watch out for that. You may one day wake up, look into the mirror to see that you've been hit withthe ugly-stick.

No, obviously I would prefer to have Mass Effect 1 on the PS3 but I'm not comparing two games to one game.  I'm comparing one game as it appears on multiple platforms, Mass Effect 2.
At least if somebody has never played Mass Effect before on the pS3 version they have a tool in game to import a Shepard as well as catch up on the backstory.  If a new Xbox 360 owner picks up Mass Effect 2 and starts playing he'll be forced to play Renegade, no Wrex, and no clue what's going on.

I am wondering about it as nothing is certain but I am still pretty convinced.  Not every developer is talented enough to utilize the PS3's amazing hardware but I think Bioware knows what they're doing.

Of course they had a whole year for the PS3 version of Mass Effect 2 whereas Mass Effect 3 will be a simultaneous release on all platforms.  We'll see but I'm optimistic.

Modifié par Turnip Root, 16 avril 2011 - 02:30 .

[Bailey232]

In ten years time if someone asks what's the best way to play the Mass Effect trilogy, are you really going to say PS3? First chapter is missing, and it will look better on PC for sure, how could you say PS3.

[Turnip Root]

Bailey232 wrote...

In ten years time if someone asks what's the best way to play the Mass Effect trilogy, are you really going to say PS3? First chapter is missing, and it will look better on PC for sure, how could you say PS3.

I'm not comparing the trilogy though.  I'm just comparing one game, Mass Effect 2.

[Turnip Root]

double post...

Modifié par Turnip Root, 16 avril 2011 - 02:31 .

[Grey21]

Turnip Root wrote...

Grey21 wrote...

Turnip Root wrote...

Grey21 wrote...

I have to admit, as a 360 owner this TC and topic are really annoying me. Not just because I've seen the PS3 version in action and it is only slightly looks better while having a worse framerate.

I'm really getting annoyed because the 360 has both games, nothing beats being able to bring your Shepard from start to finish. The way the TC formulates his first posts clearly shows he is aware of this and therefore hammers on how the PS3 version of ME2 is superior. I know it shouldn't annoy me but it does....

Anyway, I will answer the question just to show that we 360 owners are good people and not trolls as we all know some other people are... The PS3 version of ME2 is arguable superior as it uses the new ME3 engine. ME3 on the 360 will use this as well. It is impossible to say which version will be 'superior' but it is safe to say both versions will be very much alike. To such an extent that it doesn't really matter which one you get... unless you want to play through the entire story ofcourse

Having the comic book though is such an advantage though when it comes to being able to quickly customize a Shepard for a new playthrough.  It's much better than having to play all the way through Mass Effect 1 again.

I have no doubt that both versions of Mass Effect 3 will be similar but I think the PS3's hardware advantage will be apparent in the game's visuals, especially since Bioware knows how to program well with the PS3.

I wasn't expecting you would take that weak argument... Really? You would rather read a (what is it?) 10 page comic then play a game? In my opinion ME1 is still the best ME game, is has many flaws but the story and the way it is told are fantastic. A comic can't replace it. There are also many choices that you couldn't make in the comic and as a result your version of ME2 lacks certain content, making it the inferior version by default. (thanks for reminding me)

And weren't you 'wondering' if the PS3 version would be superior? You seem rather certain that it will be... It is a rather common troll strategy. Most people who start out trolling don't even know that they are doing it., so you better watch out for that. You may one day wake up, look into the mirror to see that you've been hit withthe ugly-stick.

No, obviously I would prefer to have Mass Effect 1 on the PS3 but I'm not comparing two games to one game.  I'm comparing one game as it appears on multiple platforms, Mass Effect 2.
At least if somebody has never played Mass Effect before on the pS3 version they have a tool in game to import a Shepard as well as catch up on the backstory.  If a new Xbox 360 owner picks up Mass Effect 2 and starts playing he'll be forced to play Renegade, no Wrex, and no clue what's going on.

No, you actually DID say that reading a comic is much better then playing through ME. You used the word 'again' suggesting an option to actually play ME1, which those on the PS3 do not have. On the 360 you do have that option, you have an option to buy a 10 dollar game that received many GOTY awards.

But sure if you're replaying and don't care for most little choices then it is useful to have such a comic but I think anyone on the 360 and PC will agree it is better to have the option to play the actual game.

As for your comparison, it can't be made at this point. You want people to give their opinions and they have. Some stick to simply saying you're a troll others take their time to point out why they believe you are wrong or right (wrong being the favorite).

But you feel the need to respond to their opinion in a way that screams 'you aren't right' just like your original topic screams 'I am right!'. This is why they are calling you a troll and if you aren't then you certainly are on your way towards becomming it (the ugly-stick is already in full swing).

I will reply one last time to your original query: is the PS3 version of ME3 superior?
Short answer: nobody knows
Based on history: when it comes to multiplatform games the 360 version often ends up 'superior' to the PS3 version.

I will now be leaving your topic, the annoyance that I felt towards you and your topic has disappeared now that so many have stood against it. Cheers.

[flipflopbop]

I have a mac *sad panda face* lol

[Razorsedge820]

Grey21 wrote...

But you feel the need to respond to their opinion in a way that screams 'you aren't right' just like your original topic screams 'I am right!'.

 
Arguing with the OP is like...

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 16 avril 2011 - 02:49 .

[termokanden]

Turnip Root wrote...

As a PS3 owner, I'm proud to own the superior version of Mass Effect 2 and I'm hoping that this bump in quality will continue to be apparent in Mass Effect 3.
Afterall, the PS3's hardware is superior since it came out a year after the Xbox 360 so it only makes sense that PS3 owners such as myself get the superior version just like we got the superior version of Mass Effect 2.

If the versions are released for all systems at the same time, I expect them to be pretty much the same. And the PC version will look best as always.

I have a 360, a PS3 and a PC. Personally prefer playing ME on the PC because of the controls. And because my ME2 disc for my 360 is apparently "unreadable" now.

[lolwut666]

I'm gonna throw TC a bone and make an argument in favor of the PS3 version:

It's only one disk.

Cry moar, X360 owners.

[Asch Lavigne]

I admit, the addition of the free DLC for the PS3 is nice but otherwise what do you have, better graphics? Oooh big deal, who cares? There are far many more important things than graphics when it comes to games. Otherwise everyone else's gripes are about the multiple discs. I got into gaming during the PSOne era when everything had multiple discs, so I'm used to it and I don't mind it. Its not like you have to keep swapping them in and out everytime you want to go somewhere like in Star Ocean.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 16 avril 2011 - 03:20 .

[Mars Nova]

Turnip Root wrote...

lolwut666 wrote...

Are you trolling?

Not at all, Casey Hudson himself described the PS3 version as the definitive version of Mass Effect 2.

It really is.  It's got the Mass Effect 3 engine and most of the DLC.  It pretty much is like having a Mass Effect 2 ultimate collector's edition except it's a PS3 exclusive and as a PS3 owner I'm proud of that.

Sorry, but the PS3 version of ME2 never can be superior to the 360 version, nor is it the definitive version.  I'd call the definitive version the one that allows you to import a character from ME1 with all sidequests done so you can get the whole story, not one where you get a ****ty "recap" comic that either leaves out or gets plot details wrong.

In my book, the definitive version of the Mass Effect trilogy is and will always be the 360/PC versions, because only there can you get the full experience. 

[Insom]

PC is the definitive version no question about it. PS3 has lots of missing NPCs like Conrad Verner cause it doesn't have ME1.

[MoonChildTheUnholy]

What the hell is this?

OP it was said that ME2 version would look slightly better for PS3 because Bioware are already using new features from Unreal Engine 3 that were not there when ME2 was out for X360 and PC, not because the PS3 is better LOL.

And another thing you just compared two games that are better for X360 than PS3, Bayonneta and Crysis 2 so what can you guess about ME3.

Modifié par MoonChildTheUnholy, 16 avril 2011 - 03:58 .

[bald man in a boat]

[MoonChildTheUnholy]

Oh and about the bugs on the PS3...

http://t1.gstatic.co...eqayPMwpC-HW5jG

[emanziboy]

:ahem:
http://www.eurogamer...ffect2-face-off

For Mass Effect 2, 360>PS3 if only by a slight margin
Unless you have a crappy computer, PC>both

/thread

Modifié par emanziboy, 16 avril 2011 - 04:44 .