The Angry One wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Actually, his defense of the repeated zones makes perfect sense - people just don't want to accept it because they're not accountable to anything beyond their own preferences. So much so that the only "apology" that would actually still apply would be something like, "Yes, given more time and money we wouldn't have reused the same zones repeatedly. But that wasn't our call to make, we did what we could with the resources alotted and chose to include that extra content even if it ultimately led to the same place."
And people would still hate him.
The stated reasons don't justify the amount and the blatancy of it though.
For example, DA:O had recycled areas, but not that many, and only in areas where it didn't matter that much. Who cares if Denerim Back Alley A looks like Denerim Back Alley B?
It still managed plenty of quests and content. In DA2 you have basically one cave, one ruin, one outdoor area used over and over and over. The sheer amount of the game that's taken up by recycled areas is what he should at least acknowledge as a bad idea.
Yes, a lot of people would still pile on the hate. But I for one would be understanding.
Justin2k wrote...
Rockpopple wrote...
Hey, more predictable condescending nonsense by Justin2k. (I can only assume the 2k part comes from his birth year. Ouch! Was that over the line?) It's only 6pm here, so I'm gonna chalk it up to him being tired. I'm such a nice guy, after-all.
It's too bad more people can't disagree without resorting to ad-hominum attacks and making it oddly personal. It's kinda weird. Ah well.
You're right, I'm tired. I apologise. I do believe it was you responding to me bashing my opinion that started it, but oh well, lets move on.
neppakyo wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Actually, his defense of the repeated zones makes perfect sense - people just don't want to accept it because they're not accountable to anything beyond their own preferences. So much so that the only "apology" that would actually still apply would be something like, "Yes, given more time and money we wouldn't have reused the same zones repeatedly. But that wasn't our call to make, we did what we could with the resources alotted and chose to include that extra content even if it ultimately led to the same place."
And people would still hate him.
Nah, it just to a lot of people he comes across as a dick (no offense to him!) He probably isn't, but thats the vibe some get from him. He's not a very good person to do interviews or do PR. They should of got someone else. Maybe Chris Priestly or John Epler, they do pretty good on these forums.
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Justin2k wrote...
Rockpopple wrote...
Hey, more predictable condescending nonsense by Justin2k. (I can only assume the 2k part comes from his birth year. Ouch! Was that over the line?) It's only 6pm here, so I'm gonna chalk it up to him being tired. I'm such a nice guy, after-all.
It's too bad more people can't disagree without resorting to ad-hominum attacks and making it oddly personal. It's kinda weird. Ah well.
You're right, I'm tired. I apologise. I do believe it was you responding to me bashing my opinion that started it, but oh well, lets move on.
Really? I thought this all started with your original post - the one in which you failed to back your argument up with anything resembling actual evidence.
Justin2k wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Justin2k wrote...
Rockpopple wrote...
Hey, more predictable condescending nonsense by Justin2k. (I can only assume the 2k part comes from his birth year. Ouch! Was that over the line?) It's only 6pm here, so I'm gonna chalk it up to him being tired. I'm such a nice guy, after-all.
It's too bad more people can't disagree without resorting to ad-hominum attacks and making it oddly personal. It's kinda weird. Ah well.
You're right, I'm tired. I apologise. I do believe it was you responding to me bashing my opinion that started it, but oh well, lets move on.
Really? I thought this all started with your original post - the one in which you failed to back your argument up with anything resembling actual evidence.
Tbh, i was just trolling you.. you kept feeding me xD
Justin2k wrote...
*Sigh* There is nothing wrong with him/her having a differing opinion. But he/she objected to being called a fanboy/fangirl. When in reality, that's exactly what most of the defenders of this game are...
The people with every Bioware game registered, the people with "i love alistair xxx" in their sigs, the people that spend a lot of time on this site..
erynnar wrote...
barryl89 wrote...
And the only one working themselves up into apoplexy is you, so far as I can see. So, chill...
Oh did you miss the mass hysteria of the first few weeks? I swear some people thought the sky was about to fall down on their heads.
Yeah...sorry, my bad. I meant at the moment? Geeze.... The only excitement I manage is when someone says on a pos post they really liked it. I cheer them on.
Rockpopple wrote...
MorrigansLove wrote...
I would really like someone to justify and elaborate on why they thought the story of DA2 was well done. Do you feel the death scenes were handled well at the pivotal moments? Do you like the disjointed feel of it all? Please, I would really like to know.
Well since this is a non-spoiler forum, I will not talk about spoilers. But I will tell you that the death of the sibling in the beginning seems to be a turn-off for a lot of people. It wasn't for me, but I didn't actually feel the emotion of that scene until later in the game, in Act I. Talking to Hawke's mother and sister about the death of that sibling, or with the brother if it was Bethany that died (Not a spoiler since it happens in the demo) was really poignant and well done, in my opinion.
I don't feel the siblings death in the beginning was disjointed. It was fast, yes, but things were moving quickly at that time. Later on, when it all came together, I came to appreciate it.
Not saying your opinion is any less valid than my own, of course.
@ Justin2k - Done and done. Tabula Rasa, my friend. I don't hold grudges.
Modifié par MorrigansLove, 17 avril 2011 - 10:51 .
Justin2k wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Justin2k wrote...
Rockpopple wrote...
Hey, more predictable condescending nonsense by Justin2k. (I can only assume the 2k part comes from his birth year. Ouch! Was that over the line?) It's only 6pm here, so I'm gonna chalk it up to him being tired. I'm such a nice guy, after-all.
It's too bad more people can't disagree without resorting to ad-hominum attacks and making it oddly personal. It's kinda weird. Ah well.
You're right, I'm tired. I apologise. I do believe it was you responding to me bashing my opinion that started it, but oh well, lets move on.
Really? I thought this all started with your original post - the one in which you failed to back your argument up with anything resembling actual evidence.
Tbh, i was just trolling you.. you kept feeding me xD
Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 17 avril 2011 - 10:52 .
Which leaves us here. Man-Giraffe-Dog is poised to attack and destroy humanity and I'm trying to warn everyone before it's too late. This is totally serial guys. You need to prepare.
Excelsior!
Modifié par Rockpopple, 17 avril 2011 - 10:54 .
IMHO MIke comes across as extremely personable, he certainly was in the videos that came out before the game was released.neppakyo wrote...
Nah, it just to a lot of people he comes across as a dick (no offense to him!) He probably isn't, but thats the vibe some get from him. He's not a very good person to do interviews or do PR. They should of got someone else. Maybe Chris Priestly or John Epler, they do pretty good on these forums.
Rockpopple wrote...
@ MorrigansLove - It was an artistic choice. In Medias Res. They thought it'd be different and, along with the framed narrative, it'd work as an interesting narrative device.
Whether it worked or not is ultimately up to the end user. They were just trying some new things.
I think the way they did it catered to the player deciding how Hawke should react. What if a player wanted to play someone who hated his siblings, why should they be manipulated to feel sad?Rockpopple wrote...
@ MorrigansLove - It was an artistic choice. In Medias Res. They thought it'd be different and, along with the framed narrative, it'd work as an interesting narrative device.
Whether it worked or not is ultimately up to the end user. They were just trying some new things.
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
erynnar wrote...
Hey, don't jump down my throat, I said it was how I took it. Sorry, but I still find his joke insulting and not funny (probably because of how DA2 came out). Again, my take on it. it is subjective, and my own. I never said anything else. You just jumped on the one thing that you didn't like about what I said. I may be alone in taking his joke as not particularly fitting or funny. If I am, so be it. And I didn't get myself worked into a lather over it.
And the only one working themselves up into apoplexy is you, so far as I can see. So, chill...
And I agree with Perse, more fanboy nonsense. *sigh*
That hardly constituted "jumping down your throat." I was, however, illustrating a point that people are taking certain things far too seriously and reading way too much into something that was strictly, and clearly, a joke.
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Yeah that whiner Ser Jory and that Daveth rogue guy who couldn't pick any of the locks in the only zone he was ever used in, those guys were awful.
*couldn't resist*
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Yeah that whiner Ser Jory and that Daveth rogue guy who couldn't pick any of the locks in the only zone he was ever used in, those guys were awful.
*couldn't resist*
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Yeah that whiner Ser Jory and that Daveth rogue guy who couldn't pick any of the locks in the only zone he was ever used in, those guys were awful.
*couldn't resist*
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