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[Zanallen]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

[Snip]

Why did you feel the need to repost this?

[The Angry One]

Oblivion is unplayable out of the box.
Having confidence that Skyrim will be good at this stage seems.. premature.

[MorrigansLove]

Zanallen wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

[Snip]

Why did you feel the need to repost this?

Would you have stopped me? The last few lines are what I really wanted everyone to read. - The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal with it" cannot continue....

Modifié par MorrigansLove, 17 avril 2011 - 12:02 .

[Persephone]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

While the new combat system was an amazing improvement, the game did loose its soul somewhere along the way....

# Reused areas


# Shoehorned in romances


# Weak storytelling - except, I repeat except for the Flemeth sequences.


# Cameos from DAO characters were just slapped on


# Enemies spawning out of thin air


# No sense of connection to your companions


# People in the world do not speak the lore, the player has to read wall after wall of text


The list can go on, but the general sense of a rushed, thrown together product is very strong after playing the game. I fear that comparisons with The Witcher 2 over the next few months will be brutal.


I hope Bioware does not decieve itself that there are no danger signs. I hope the development crew does not fall prey to arrogance and brush off feedback.

The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal" cannot continue....

I wish them luck, I hope the team can pick up from here and do better.

How about posting what YOU thought after finishing the game once or twice? (If you have done so at all)


The only thing I agree with there are the re-used areas. And they are a minor bother to me, given how the game's story had me gripped.

And I too am looking forward to The Witcher 2. Redesign (New Geralt...yech!) and bugs included. It'll be a nasty awakening, I fear. OMGZ, now even TW2 has become an abomination! Death on CDPR!" topics WILL happen.

[Elhanan]

Guess one must go to greater lengths than myself to feel insulted. Moving on....

[Persephone]

The Angry One wrote...

Oblivion is unplayable out of the box.
Having confidence that Skyrim will be good at this stage seems.. premature.

But it looks so shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny! 

Wait....so did Oblivion.

[Zanallen]

MorrigansLove wrote...


Would you have stopped me? The last few lines are what I really wanted everyone to read.

As I don't have the ability to stop you from doing anything, I don't see how that matters. The question was why. Its already been posted. In a thread designed for such feedback. Reposting serves no real purpose, especially if you don't explain your reasoning for said repost.

[MorrigansLove]

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

While the new combat system was an amazing improvement, the game did loose its soul somewhere along the way....

# Reused areas


# Shoehorned in romances


# Weak storytelling - except, I repeat except for the Flemeth sequences.


# Cameos from DAO characters were just slapped on


# Enemies spawning out of thin air


# No sense of connection to your companions


# People in the world do not speak the lore, the player has to read wall after wall of text


The list can go on, but the general sense of a rushed, thrown together product is very strong after playing the game. I fear that comparisons with The Witcher 2 over the next few months will be brutal.


I hope Bioware does not decieve itself that there are no danger signs. I hope the development crew does not fall prey to arrogance and brush off feedback.

The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal" cannot continue....

I wish them luck, I hope the team can pick up from here and do better.

How about posting what YOU thought after finishing the game once or twice? (If you have done so at all)


The only thing I agree with there are the re-used areas. And they are a minor bother to me, given how the game's story had me gripped.

And I too am looking forward to The Witcher 2. Redesign (New Geralt...yech!) and bugs included. It'll be a nasty awakening, I fear. OMGZ, now even TW2 has become an abomination! Death on CDPR!" topics WILL happen.

What's wrong with new Geralt? - And YES, I have posted my feedback towards DA2 before. Don't be so rude.

Modifié par MorrigansLove, 17 avril 2011 - 12:06 .

[MorrigansLove]

Zanallen wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...


Would you have stopped me? The last few lines are what I really wanted everyone to read.

As I don't have the ability to stop you from doing anything, I don't see how that matters. The question was why. Its already been posted. In a thread designed for such feedback. Reposting serves no real purpose, especially if you don't explain your reasoning for said repost.

I just blame all that I do on the drink.

[Persephone]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

While the new combat system was an amazing improvement, the game did loose its soul somewhere along the way....

# Reused areas


# Shoehorned in romances


# Weak storytelling - except, I repeat except for the Flemeth sequences.


# Cameos from DAO characters were just slapped on


# Enemies spawning out of thin air


# No sense of connection to your companions


# People in the world do not speak the lore, the player has to read wall after wall of text


The list can go on, but the general sense of a rushed, thrown together product is very strong after playing the game. I fear that comparisons with The Witcher 2 over the next few months will be brutal.


I hope Bioware does not decieve itself that there are no danger signs. I hope the development crew does not fall prey to arrogance and brush off feedback.

The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal" cannot continue....

I wish them luck, I hope the team can pick up from here and do better.

How about posting what YOU thought after finishing the game once or twice? (If you have done so at all)


The only thing I agree with there are the re-used areas. And they are a minor bother to me, given how the game's story had me gripped.

And I too am looking forward to The Witcher 2. Redesign (New Geralt...yech!) and bugs included. It'll be a nasty awakening, I fear. OMGZ, now even TW2 has become an abomination! Death on CDPR!" topics WILL happen.

What's wrong with new Geralt?

I was infatuated by the old, gritty Geralt. He looked BADASS.

New one looks like a pretty boy with white hair to me. If they really change his VO actor too (Any news on this? I haven't been following TW2 all that much) I will be having fits of fangirl rage! 

[1Nosphorus1]

The Angry One wrote...

Oblivion is unplayable out of the box.
Having confidence that Skyrim will be good at this stage seems.. premature.

For a thread based on opinions, this is a glaring example (No offense:police:)

I own Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and the PC, and found that they were both very enjoyable on launch day release, same with Morrowind.

But, in my opinion, Mods enhance the experience, but the Vanilla experience was always enjoyed before/after teh mods.

Valcutio wrote...

Bioware should pay anything Brent
Knowles asks to come back. That man MADE Dragon Age what it was before
the abomination that DA2 is came along. Not sure if I agree with some of
the OPs comments but I know where he's coming from.

I've talked to Brent, he's not coming back or has any plans to join another developer of that size, he's spending time with his family (Obviously away from a full time job with long shifts) and writing novels/editing a website.

Modifié par 1Nosphorus1, 17 avril 2011 - 12:11 .

[MorrigansLove]

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

While the new combat system was an amazing improvement, the game did loose its soul somewhere along the way....

# Reused areas


# Shoehorned in romances


# Weak storytelling - except, I repeat except for the Flemeth sequences.


# Cameos from DAO characters were just slapped on


# Enemies spawning out of thin air


# No sense of connection to your companions


# People in the world do not speak the lore, the player has to read wall after wall of text


The list can go on, but the general sense of a rushed, thrown together product is very strong after playing the game. I fear that comparisons with The Witcher 2 over the next few months will be brutal.


I hope Bioware does not decieve itself that there are no danger signs. I hope the development crew does not fall prey to arrogance and brush off feedback.

The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal" cannot continue....

I wish them luck, I hope the team can pick up from here and do better.

How about posting what YOU thought after finishing the game once or twice? (If you have done so at all)


The only thing I agree with there are the re-used areas. And they are a minor bother to me, given how the game's story had me gripped.

And I too am looking forward to The Witcher 2. Redesign (New Geralt...yech!) and bugs included. It'll be a nasty awakening, I fear. OMGZ, now even TW2 has become an abomination! Death on CDPR!" topics WILL happen.

What's wrong with new Geralt?

I was infatuated by the old, gritty Geralt. He looked BADASS.

New one looks like a pretty boy with white hair to me. If they really change his VO actor too (Any news on this? I haven't been following TW2 all that much) I will be having fits of fangirl rage! 

Oh dear... I think they have.

[Persephone]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Persephone wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Post by Vilnii in constructive criticism:

While the new combat system was an amazing improvement, the game did loose its soul somewhere along the way....

# Reused areas


# Shoehorned in romances


# Weak storytelling - except, I repeat except for the Flemeth sequences.


# Cameos from DAO characters were just slapped on


# Enemies spawning out of thin air


# No sense of connection to your companions


# People in the world do not speak the lore, the player has to read wall after wall of text


The list can go on, but the general sense of a rushed, thrown together product is very strong after playing the game. I fear that comparisons with The Witcher 2 over the next few months will be brutal.


I hope Bioware does not decieve itself that there are no danger signs. I hope the development crew does not fall prey to arrogance and brush off feedback.

The old attitude of "We make what we want to make and you have to deal" cannot continue....

I wish them luck, I hope the team can pick up from here and do better.

How about posting what YOU thought after finishing the game once or twice? (If you have done so at all)


The only thing I agree with there are the re-used areas. And they are a minor bother to me, given how the game's story had me gripped.

And I too am looking forward to The Witcher 2. Redesign (New Geralt...yech!) and bugs included. It'll be a nasty awakening, I fear. OMGZ, now even TW2 has become an abomination! Death on CDPR!" topics WILL happen.

What's wrong with new Geralt?

I was infatuated by the old, gritty Geralt. He looked BADASS.

New one looks like a pretty boy with white hair to me. If they really change his VO actor too (Any news on this? I haven't been following TW2 all that much) I will be having fits of fangirl rage! 

Oh dear... I think they have.

So much for TW2 supposedly being perfect when it comes to continuity and immersion. Yeah, lets change our lead's iconic look until Triss herself wouldn't recognise him and hey, nobody will notice if our lead has a different voice now, right? 

[The Angry One]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

For a thread based on opinions, this is a glaring example.

I own Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and the PC, and found that they were both very enjoyable on launch day release, same with Morrowind.

But, in my opinion, Mods enhance the experience, but the Vanilla experience was always enjoyed before/after teh mods.

You may enjoy it, but that doesn't change the fact that the base game is fundamentally flawed.
It's easy to level yourself up into a corner because enemies level with you in a level-scaling system that's completely broken (and even Bethesda admitted this, toning it way the hell down in Fallout 3), you level too fast which just adds to that, there's little variety in items, NPCs vanish and kill themselves for no reason, skills are illogical (how the hell do 2 handed greatswords and daggers co-exist in the same skill?) and the game can break itself in unimmersive events, such as guards who are immortal due to their plot flags.

[Dragoonlordz]

Nothing wrong with new Geralt, was nothing wrong with old one either. What is wrong with recent changes to mains is the new Devil (Makes me) Cry change to appearance. Went from cool guy to little boy.

[Persephone]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Nothing wrong with new Geralt, was nothing wrong with old one either. What is wrong with recent changes to mains is the new Devil (Makes me) Cry change to appearance. Went from cool guy to little boy.

Well, I for one hate what I've seen and heard of new Geralt. TW2 will probably be my DAII. But I am still on the fence and I'll gladly admit it if my worries were unfounded upon TW2's release.

[Maverick827]

Persephone wrote...

So much for TW2 supposedly being perfect when it comes to continuity and immersion. Yeah, lets change our lead's iconic look until Triss herself wouldn't recognise him and hey, nobody will notice if our lead has a different voice now, right?

CD Projekt can afford to do that without being crucified because they are a small "independent" (heh) developer. This makes complete sense and should totally not be seen as a contradiction.

[Persephone]

Maverick827 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

So much for TW2 supposedly being perfect when it comes to continuity and immersion. Yeah, lets change our lead's iconic look until Triss herself wouldn't recognise him and hey, nobody will notice if our lead has a different voice now, right?

CD Projekt can afford to do that without being crucified because they are a small "independent" (heh) developer. This makes complete sense and should totally not be seen as a contradiction.

:lol::lol:

Oh my God, just imagine Bioware hiring someone other than Jennifer Hale for Fem Shep in ME3.

They wouldn't survive!

Nobody would miss Marc Meer though.........(Ok, that was nasty. As I do believe his performance has improved a lot since the Bore Fest he was in ME1)

[1Nosphorus1]

The Angry One wrote...

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

For a thread based on opinions, this is a glaring example.

I own Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and the PC, and found that they were both very enjoyable on launch day release, same with Morrowind.

But, in my opinion, Mods enhance the experience, but the Vanilla experience was always enjoyed before/after teh mods.

You may enjoy it, but that doesn't change the fact that the base game is fundamentally flawed.

The same could be said about Dragon Age 2, it's all a matter of opinion of how much they enjoyed their experience.

[Persephone]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

For a thread based on opinions, this is a glaring example.

I own Oblivion on the Xbox 360 and the PC, and found that they were both very enjoyable on launch day release, same with Morrowind.

But, in my opinion, Mods enhance the experience, but the Vanilla experience was always enjoyed before/after teh mods.

You may enjoy it, but that doesn't change the fact that the base game is fundamentally flawed.

The same could be said about Dragon Age 2, it's all a matter of opinion of how much they enjoyed their experience.

This is very true too, yes. I for one tend to be very forgiving re: flaws if it is a game I personally enjoy.

How else could I have loved the unmodded Morrowind? (Mods are essential now!) Or unmodded BG? Or unmodded DAO? :happy:

[orbit991]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

For me...

Voicing your opinion about a product you bought and was dissatisfied with is the right of every consumer. Expressing concern over the tone and choice characterizations posed by a certain designer is also the right of anyone who read it and felt affected by it.

Call me a whinner, old fogey, someone afraid of change, troll, paranoid, whichever label you choose, it doesn't change anything. If I bought something and wasn't happy about it, I'll say so....and I could care less what anyone has to say about it!

I know its weird, watching these forums is like watching teens fighting over that their most favorite band in the world was insulted.

[Lumikki]

Very childish behavior here from OP.

Modifié par Lumikki, 17 avril 2011 - 12:45 .

[1Nosphorus1]

Persephone wrote...

This is very true too, yes. I for one tend to be very forgiving re: flaws if it is a game I personally enjoy.

How else could I have loved the unmodded Morrowind? (Mods are essential now!) Or unmodded BG? Or unmodded DAO? :happy:

It depends on the flaw for me to be honest, I didn't really have many gamebreaking Oblivion bugs, but I did have a few that pulled me right out of immersion but I still rate it as a very good RPG in an open world environment.

Dragon Age 2 just didn't really do it for me personally, I've voiced my opinions on the matter but I've just started my second playthrough (Waited for patch to fix bugs), and I'm finding it hard to carry on playing.

[Justin2k]

Play it more than once? Why?

The differences in multiple playthroughs will be minimal at best. Side with mages, side with templars, be good, be evil. Choices are redundant when 98% of them come out with the exact same result.

The choices in this game are shoehorned in because they thought "wait, this is a sequel.. we better at least have some text and some options in between our awesome cool Dynasty Warriors 9 gameplay.

[Persephone]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

This is very true too, yes. I for one tend to be very forgiving re: flaws if it is a game I personally enjoy.

How else could I have loved the unmodded Morrowind? (Mods are essential now!) Or unmodded BG? Or unmodded DAO? :happy:

It depends on the flaw for me to be honest, I didn't really have many gamebreaking Oblivion bugs, but I did have a few that pulled me right out of immersion but I still rate it as a very good RPG in an open world environment.

Dragon Age 2 just didn't really do it for me personally, I've voiced my opinions on the matter but I've just started my second playthrough (Waited for patch to fix bugs), and I'm finding it hard to carry on playing.

Hey, that's perfectly fine. I've had experiences like this with other games. Even games I tried VERY hard to like because I loved their predecessors. (Anyone remember Gabriel Knight III and its tragic release?)