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[DashRunner92]

Asari are genderless. The only reason they are known as an "all-female race" is because their bodies have a feminine figure.

[grimkillah]

Multiple sexes isn't the most effective evolutionary path, the most effective one is like common reed frogs, that can change their sexes, depending on numerical balances of the population. If two female frog live together for extended time, one will turn to male for reproduction, and if too many male frog within a population some male would return to female to balance. This is the ultimate safeguard against extinction, as long as two frogs remain, the entire population can be rebuilt. However two human female or male would mean the end of humanity. Given the stabillity of Earth's history during Human time, I would say multiple sex might be a rare thing in the universe.

Modifié par grimkillah, 17 avril 2011 - 03:46 .

[GodWood]

DashRunner92 wrote...
Asari are genderless. The only reason they are known as an "all-female race" is because their bodies have a feminine figure.

[didymos1120]

DashRunner92 wrote...

Asari are genderless. The only reason they are known as an "all-female race" is because their bodies have a feminine figure.

They're known as that because the Codex SAYS SO.  It's also true biologically: look up parthenogenesis.  And read the thread.

[didymos1120]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

Guys,

Sex is a function of the actual biological properties of the organism. Male humans have XY chromosome, Female humans have XX.

That's not quite all there is to the biological concept of  "sex".   What it works out to in practical terms, however, is "What sort of gametes does the organism produce?" If it fits the defintion of an egg, the answer is "female".  Given what we know of their reproduction, that has to be true of asari.  They produce a gamete, with one copy of their genes having been randomized,  that then grows into a child. They don't self-fertilize.  They don't reproduce via budding. Etc.

Modifié par didymos1120, 17 avril 2011 - 04:00 .

[Praetor Knight]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

We consider the asari to be feminine because they can bear children - basically the defining trade of female as opposed to male.

Well, there are Seahorses

[Jademoon121]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

We consider the asari to be feminine because they can bear children - basically the defining trade of female as opposed to male.

Well, there are Seahorses

Poor sods 

[didymos1120]

nvm

Modifié par didymos1120, 17 avril 2011 - 06:40 .

[Tilarta]

I always assumed the Asari were "biologically capable" of the act of physical reproduction if they became involved with a male from outside their species.

I'm not sure what it means, but the Asari being wooed by the Krogan says something like this:

"We use the DNA of other species to randomize our own"

Which would seem to imply that their ova are being fertilized by their male partner, even if the offspring is always a female Asari.

I guess that ties into the thing about Asari Purebloods, if they're essentially all made from the same DNA, that would mean technically they were a race of clones and had no biological diversity.

Which is probably when the Asari started seeking partners from outside their species, when they realized what was happening to them.

Modifié par Tilarta, 18 avril 2011 - 02:59 .

[Ryzaki]

I don't understand all these arguments.

Yes all the other races think the Asari are female but the Devs said they aren't so everything else is just wrong.

[Dave666]

Ryzaki wrote...

I don't understand all these arguments.

Yes all the other races think the Asari are female but the Devs said they aren't so everything else is just wrong.

I don't understand your argument.  In ME:1 the codex tells us that the Asari are an all female race, that was changed in ME:2 for the simple reason that some people were complaining about lesbian relationships.  A change in the lore to be more politically correct?  Really?  Asari are female, plain and simple.

[ShadyKat]

Asari aren't male or female. They look female, but that doesn't mean they have the same plumbing, if you catch my drift....

[syllogi]

Dave666 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I don't understand all these arguments.

Yes all the other races think the Asari are female but the Devs said they aren't so everything else is just wrong.

I don't understand your argument.  In ME:1 the codex tells us that the Asari are an all female race, that was changed in ME:2 for the simple reason that some people were complaining about lesbian relationships.  A change in the lore to be more politically correct?  Really?  Asari are female, plain and simple.

Other than a quote by Casey Hudson in a live chat where he called asari "asexual" (and confused Liara and Tali), I'm not even sure where it's stated in ME2 that asari are not female.

Until it's stated otherwise, the codex states that asari are mono-gendered, yet sexually female.

[Dave666]

ShadyKat wrote...

Asari aren't male or female. They look female, but that doesn't mean they have the same plumbing, if you catch my drift....

You mean the plumbing that allows them to give birth? 

[OrbitalWings]

Posting yet again because people can't/don't want to read.

[jlb524]

The real question is, would Liara be offended if someone referred to her as an 'it'?

[Ryzaki]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Posting yet again because people can't/don't want to read.

Devs > Codex

[Ryzaki]

Nyoka wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Devs > Codex

"most of the developers feel that Liara/Femshep is an F/F relationship. I don't know if the "she's an asari" thing was ever intended to take away from the F/F aspect (since I wasn't around when the idea was put together) but nevertheless, she was intended as the gay female love interest."

From what you just posted

I didn't work on ME1 but I would venture to say that most of the developers feel that Liara/Femshep is an F/F relationship.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 avril 2011 - 09:31 .

[Almostfaceman]

Nyoka wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Devs > Codex

"most of the developers feel that Liara/Femshep is an F/F relationship. I don't know if the "she's an asari" thing was ever intended to take away from the F/F aspect (since I wasn't around when the idea was put together) but nevertheless, she was intended as the gay female love interest."

This.
And... um, the devs made the codex.  No devs, no codex.  Codex = right.  Ryzaki = bioware fan opinion.

Codex > Ryzaki

[OrbitalWings]

It amazes me just how desperate some people are to prove asari aren't female. What exactly do you stand to gain from it? Mocking people who wish to look at it as a f/f relationship?

[Dave666]

Nyoka wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

From what you just posted

I didn't work on ME1 but I would venture to say that most of the developers feel that Liara/Femshep is an F/F relationship.

Yeah. And what he says is far more relevant to this than your opinion, because that guy works for Bioware and knows the developers, and you don't. Anyway:

Chris L'Etoile said...

"Without getting into too much detail, asari are considered female because:

1) They produce the equivalent of egg cells - cells that contain genetic material which can develop into a new independant organism. How they use them is a bit weird from the human point of view.

2) They possess the equivalent of a womb - a place where "activated" egg cells develop within them.

3) From the human point of view, they have a host of secondary sexual characteristics associated with femaleness (mammary glands, distribution of fats, higher pitched voice, etc.)

It's open to debate whether or not a species can truly be "female" (or "male") when they are monogendered. For the purposes of classification by multi-gendered species, who are the majority in the galaxy, the asari clearly fill a female niche.

I had to laugh.  So not only does the codex say that they are an all female race, but one of the developers does too...