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[Benchmark]

So Bianca levels with Varric, and the rune you place in her levels as well. Does anyone have any strong evidence that can tell me which rune is the best?

The Rune of Devestation adds 10% damage. I have read that that is to all sources of damage so it includes abilities.

However I have been watching Varric using a Rune of Frost hitting for an extra 60 damage of cold on auto attacks. Thats an extra 50% damage on his normal hits. He would have to do 600 dmg with an ability to make it equal.

To add confusion to this, I dont see the cold damage applied when he uses an ability. So it may not get used at all then, or I am just missing it. Regardless, he does a lot of auto attacking so it may still outweigh the Devestation.

Any insight?

Modifié par Benchmark, 17 avril 2011 - 05:35 .

[SuicidalBaby]

All specific type damage runes scale at a better rate than 10%.
Bianca has her own list of the best runes for each section of the game in the companion's section of The Compendium.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 16 avril 2011 - 10:11 .

[DapperDan77]

Suicidial, I don't understand how elemental would scale better than devastation, surely a 10% increase would scale better than a flat amount per attack? Or is it that elemental is only better on Bianca specifically?
My understanding was that elemental runes add a flat amount to attacks, whereas +10% rune applies to abilities as well, making devastation better.
Quoted from another thread round here somewhere

IN1 wrote...

Percentile damage increase >>> flat damage increase. In an extremely simplified form: if you score a 20k critical off Whirlwind with the Celebrant, it will add +2k, while any elemental rune will just add the same old 20% of base weapon damage (+7/+8, in this case).

Only asking as you and IN1 are two of the main contributors to helping ppl understand mechanics in this forum, yet you both seem to be saying different things about runes.

Modifié par DapperDan77, 17 avril 2011 - 12:48 .

[SuicidalBaby]

its the same,

Im simply taking resistance weaknesses and effects into account. The majority of Varric's dps comes from auto attacks, where the runes damage and effect is stacked on the back end. Yes the 10% would affect all of his abilities, but Varric is an exception when it comes to how his damage is produced in most builds. If he was speced for lance, the 10% would be better. If he is a control/speed build, targeting resistances becomes better.

@ lvl 14

Bianca is doing 80 damage. A damage rune scales to +16, thats 20%. Target resistances for double damage, thats +32, +40%. A speed build is about over all damage, not big numbers.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 17 avril 2011 - 01:43 .

[Atmosfear3]

In most cases, Rune of Devastation is best used on rogue Hawkes and to some extent Isabela only as they can achieve much higher burst damage than archer companions can. 10% more auto-attack damage isn't all that impressive.

[Apathy1989]

Rune of Devastation is best for mages, not so much the others.

[DapperDan77]

Ah ok I see. My Varric currently has some archery talents for the CCC's, but I'm unimpressed with it tbh so will prob respec him to auto attack and get some elem runes.

[ussnorway]

Rune of Primeval Lyrium (increases attack speed) is, far and above, the best rune to put on Bianca but it comes at the cost of 3 rune slots!

[Benchmark]

ussnorway wrote...

Rune of Primeval Lyrium (increases attack speed) is, far and above, the best rune to put on Bianca but it comes at the cost of 3 rune slots!

Aaawroo? (Insert scooby doo face)

I don't understand the 3 rune slot comment, but I would possibly agree to that rune. But I am a selfish bastitch and want it for myself.

[ussnorway]

Benchmark wrote...
I don't understand the 3 rune slot comment, but I would possibly agree to that rune. But I am a selfish bastitch and want it for myself.

Well this is a spoilers forum so I’ll elaborate.

At the end of the Varric haunted quest (act 2) he will find a gem and you have two options;
1.    Say nothing and let him keep it… the in game result is 3 extra rune slots on his cross-bow.
2.    Tell him to hand it over… take the gem home and ask your resident rune smith (Sandal) to make it into the unique Primeval rune.

In my personal experience you get the best out of Primeval if you mostly auto attack whilst the extra rune slots favours a build that likes to spam special abilities.