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[PicdiCr80]

Is it just me or are people beginning to act like Mass Effect is reality? People are giving these big moral speeches about Renegade and Paragon, bringing these philosophies and historical similies into the mix to help govern their actions. They are also saying they will exact revenge upon BIOWARE by destroying the mass effect civillizations IN THE GAME and act like that affects other players.

People are also beginning to start using all these real life analogys to help understand random ass things in the game such as people comparing the Cerberus to the N@ZIS and what not which although is a suprisingly good analogy, is still going a bit far considering it's a game. But worst of all, people are personally insulting each other over what they chose to do in the game and are again comparing it all to real life and slandering other players because they didn't study historical events that seem similar to those in question in the game...it's ridiculous.

[Gill Kaiser]

Which "people"?

In any case, it's the internet.

[Naltair]

I find it interesting to have plausible reasons for things to happen in this story. I know it's a story.

Tali is real though. Don't tell me otherwise.

[PicdiCr80]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Which "people"?

In any case, it's the internet.

I'm not going to name-names because that's just rude and rather insulting, even if I disagree with what they are saying, but take a look at a few topics about Renegade and Paragon characters and you'll see what I mean.

[Silmane]

Slandering and name calling is obviously not cool, but discussions on the game isn't any different than people who discuss different hobbies with each other.

Modifié par Silmane, 16 avril 2011 - 11:30 .

[Dominus]

People invest their time and money in a game, for some it becomes a pseudo-reality. When people don't get what they want, they come here to let the company who made it know what didn't work, or what they DO want to see. That's how it works. Creation, and feedback. It's like pingpong with developers and fans. Except besides the ping-pong ball, there's trolls, crazed fans, and a whole bunch of other nonsense bouncing around.

Fun, ain't it?

[JRCHOharry]

It's fun to debate, apparently.
I think it's overrated and we should all just be apathetic towards everything.

[LadyJaneGrey]

"beginning to act?"

Just how long have you been visiting the forums?  

[PicdiCr80]

Silmane wrote...

Slandering and name calling is obviously not cool, but discussions on the game isn't any different than people who discuss their own hobbies with each other.

True, but when people begin to drag up old historical events and throw them in the face of others to help back-up their points which usually contain insults and slander of other players and their choices, it's too much, that was the point i was trying to make basically, not that discussions on the game are bad, but when people act like it's reality it can get disturbing and ultimately ends in tears.

[100k]

People are starting to accept that gaming can be taken seriously as a medium of entertainment/art. With that naturally comes strong opinions. Bioware (along with R* and Bethesda) are among the only developers that (I feel) genuinely push the medium away from the notion that gaming is for simple enjoyment with each game they make.

So don't worry about it. ME is one of those games that has so much extra detail packed into it, that anyone, whether they are a casual player, or a hardcore player, can enjoy.

[aimlessgun]

The real question is....why are you taking the forums so seriously?!

[LadyJaneGrey]

JRCHOharry wrote...

It's fun to debate, apparently.
I think it's overrated and we should all just be apathetic towards everything.

I'd agree, but I just can't work up the energy.

[naledgeborn]

This is testimony to the quality of the Mass Effect series. Life imitates art; vice-versa.

[PicdiCr80]

aimlessgun wrote...

The real question is....why are you taking the forums so seriously?!

The whole thread is saying not to take things so seriously.


And this thread isn't about stopping debating, but to stop such personal and deep debates that ultimately will only end in tears and division between different players and players that play different aspects of the game because it ends with slander on both the players AND the game which is taking things TOO seriously.

[Saaziel]

Well its a game but it deals with parallels in real life.

Not that i approve of any "provocative" arguments over a game. But its a good thing to have grey areas to debate over; I approve even less of the "good vs evil" narrative where you can't even hold such arguments. And if the cost of having "choices" in a game is to have heated arguments over the best/ worst/ good/ bad choices, its a price well worth paying in my opinion.

In any event , I'm right & you're wrong!

Modifié par Saaziel, 16 avril 2011 - 11:39 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

PicdiCr80 wrote...

Is it just me or are people beginning to act like Mass Effect is reality? People are giving these big moral speeches about Renegade and Paragon, bringing these philosophies and historical similies into the mix to help govern their actions. They are also saying they will exact revenge upon BIOWARE by destroying the mass effect civillizations IN THE GAME and act like that affects other players.

People are also beginning to start using all these real life analogys to help understand random ass things in the game such as people comparing the Cerberus to the N@ZIS and what not which although is a suprisingly good analogy, is still going a bit far considering it's a game. But worst of all, people are personally insulting each other over what they chose to do in the game and are again comparing it all to real life and slandering other players because they didn't study historical events that seem similar to those in question in the game...it's ridiculous.

People do it with movies, books, and other narrative artforms. Why not games? 

Modifié par Gibb_Shepard, 16 avril 2011 - 11:39 .

[Polliot]

Mass Efffect is not a reality!? What's wrong with you people,are you all crazy?
Enough of your childish jokes,I'm plotting a course for Illium.

[Knightsire]

PicdiCr80 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

The real question is....why are you taking the forums so seriously?!

The whole thread is saying not to take things so seriously.


And this thread isn't about stopping debating, but to stop such personal and deep debates that ultimately will only end in tears and division between different players and players that play different aspects of the game because it ends with slander on both the players AND the game which is taking things TOO seriously.

You will always have disagreements, divisions, and people who love to tear each other a new one.  I'm glad they do it in an online forum rather than in the real world...well...at least, I hope they vent in here and not out there.

Modifié par Knightsire, 16 avril 2011 - 11:45 .

[Elite Midget]

This is the internet. People are allowed to take or not take things as seriously as they want to. If you don't desire to read said posts than don't go into said Topics.

[PicdiCr80]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

PicdiCr80 wrote...

Is it just me or are people beginning to act like Mass Effect is reality? People are giving these big moral speeches about Renegade and Paragon, bringing these philosophies and historical similies into the mix to help govern their actions. They are also saying they will exact revenge upon BIOWARE by destroying the mass effect civillizations IN THE GAME and act like that affects other players.

People are also beginning to start using all these real life analogys to help understand random ass things in the game such as people comparing the Cerberus to the N@ZIS and what not which although is a suprisingly good analogy, is still going a bit far considering it's a game. But worst of all, people are personally insulting each other over what they chose to do in the game and are again comparing it all to real life and slandering other players because they didn't study historical events that seem similar to those in question in the game...it's ridiculous.

People do it with movies, books, and other narrative artforms. Why not games? 

Because there doesn't seem to be any definitive answers to conclude the discussions and arguements brought up about the game. There's no real way to justify what happens in the game when the consequences are yet to be known and still people are having a go at each other over it. Plus, with most other narrative artforms there is a definitive canon to it, whereas it changes in this game due to the players having so much multiple choice, this makes the discussions a lot harder to reach a conclusion to for the point I said above, there's so many philosophies already in the game that bringing in more from the real world just makes matters more complicated and harder to reach any conclusion.

There's no way to decide if Renegade or Paragon is better than one another yet and probably never will be and yet people still discuss it to try and an answer yet there isn't one available, so they resort to insults when they reach the inevitable stalemate and this goes on with most of the philosophies and ethos debated in the game. The game itself already gives you enough answers about things you might question and the Codex does too, yet people still get into heated arguements with each other while trying to verbally beat an answer out of the other.

[Savber100]

Why are there people like 'Tolkien experts' and literary experts who pore over fictional works? A good work of art can be discussed and debated. While we still lack the scholarly means of film and literature analysts, I think the fact that people can examine a story structure and argue about the themes of Mass Effect is proof of just far the VG medium has come since Pong.

That and people are just passionate about the series. People **** when they're passionate. ;P

Modifié par Savber100, 16 avril 2011 - 11:49 .

[PicdiCr80]

Savber100 wrote...

Why are there people like 'Tolkien experts' and literary experts who pore over fictional works? A good work of art can be discussed and debated. While we still lack the scholarly means of film and literature analysts, I think the fact that people can examine a story structure and argue about the themes of Mass Effect is proof of just far the VG medium has come since Pong.

That and people are just passionate about the series. People **** when they're passionate. ;P

I agree it shows how good the series is (which it is) and what not, but I think (hope ) my above point is still valid. There still needs to be boundaries or something though to when people debate (in my eyes anyway.).

[Rurik_Niall]