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If Carver were Bethany's identical twin, would she be a mage?


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Maria Caliban

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I wonder. We know mages tend to produce mages, and the Tevinter keep genealogical histories of mages for that reason.

Is being a mage simply having the 'mage gene' or is it something more complex?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 avril 2011 - 08:14 .


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The Angry One

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I was under the impression that they're fraternal twins, does it say they're identical?

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Maybe? It might be a single gene, or it could be spread across multiple genes. Sort of like one gene that produces some sort of special enzyme, and then another one that produces receptors for that particular enzyme or something. Does it really matter?

Edit: TAO - Maria is saying "if they were identical twins, would femCarver be a mage too?"

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 17 avril 2011 - 01:15 .


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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Does it really matter?

Yes.

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The Angry One wrote...

I was under the impression that they're fraternal twins, does it say they're identical?


The fact that they have different genders seems to imply that they aren't identical.

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hoorayforicecream wrote...

Edit: TAO - Maria is saying "if they were identical twins, would femCarver be a mage too?"


Herr Uhl wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I was under the impression that they're fraternal twins, does it say they're identical?


The fact that they have different genders seems to imply that they aren't identical.


Yes I wasn't thinking when I wrote that.

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Fruit of the Doom

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She would be a man.

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The Angry One

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You know I honestly forgot Carver's gender for a moment there.. (insert your own Carver with boobs joke here).
It seems to me that if mage powers are hereditary, and the lore suggests it is then identical twins would have the same magic abilities. It'd make something interesting in a future story at least.

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Hard to say without knowing more about how and why some are able to wield magic, and others not.

I imagine Isabela would be very pleased to meet the pair of them, though.

Modifié par bleetman, 17 avril 2011 - 01:33 .


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Does it matter? One of them dies in the first five minutes. Who cares?

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We have no idea why anyone has magic so who knows?

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 17 avril 2011 - 01:38 .


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You people are idiots. Maria was saying what if Carver was a female. Would the alternate female Carver (Carvette?) have magic?

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Also, being "identical" twins does not mean being identical in every way. A good friend of mine had an identical twin brother. They looked a great deal alike and shared some interests and even talents. However, my friend was hetero to the last while his brother was pretty much gay from the word "go" and eventually was saving up for a M2F sex change. Sadly, his life was cut short by a car accident, but... relevant example is relevant, I hope.

The Tevinters keeping genealogies of mage families certainly points toward genetics being a factor, but it's still magic so they can easily explain however they want to, if they ever go that far. Which I kind of hope they don't. Midichlorians, anyone?

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I would say there has to be a mage gene, given that magical ability seems hereditary. Or at least, it seems people in the DA verse believe it's hereditary.

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I'll go with genetics activated by environmental (hormones etc.) conditions experienced in the womb and after birth.

That or magic.

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There are also the qunari who keep detailed and complete genalogical records for *everyone.*

Yet, they say magic is contagious. Is it possible the children of mages tend to be mages not because of a gene but because they interact with their magical parent?

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The assertion that magical ability is somehow determined by heredity or the intrauterine environment is a myth propagated by the "Pro-Mage agenda" in a pathetic attempt to justify their immoral lifestyles.

;)

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 17 avril 2011 - 01:53 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

I wonder. We know mages tend to produce mages, and the Tevinter keep genealogical histories of mages for that reason.

Is being a mage simply having the 'mage gene' or is it something more complex?


I'd bet my bottom dollar that it's "more complex." But, there is likely a genetic component to it. It's like cancer and alcoholism.

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Speaking as a fraternal twin, and child of a fraternal twin gender doesn't really mean anything it really about appearance mostly. Carver could of been female and fraternal twin to Bethany and not be a mage. Though perhaps it could be something genetic that causes a person to be a mage or maybe it's something Bioware hasn't talked about yet that causes a person to be a mage.

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

The assertion that magical ability is somehow determined by heredity or the intrauterine environment is a myth propagated by the "Pro-Mage agenda" in a pathetic attempt to justify their immoral lifestyles.

;)


I totally drew comparisons in my head, but, sadly, my wit was slow :P

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

The assertion that magical ability is somehow determined by heredity or the intrauterine environment is a myth propagated by the "Pro-Mage agenda" in a pathetic attempt to justify their immoral lifestyles.

;)

Don't hate the mage, hate the casting!

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Fruit of the Doom wrote...

The assertion that magical ability is somehow determined by heredity or the intrauterine environment is a myth propagated by the "Pro-Mage agenda" in a pathetic attempt to justify their immoral lifestyles.

;)


This post is made of Wynne. er, Win.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

There are also the qunari who keep detailed and complete genalogical records for *everyone.*

Yet, they say magic is contagious. Is it possible the children of mages tend to be mages not because of a gene but because they interact with their magical parent?


Doubtful, Hawke seems to have regarded Malcolm fondly mage or not which would mean they spent a lot of time around him.

When is the earliest magical ability is seen in a child anyway?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Yet, they say magic is contagious. Is it possible the children of mages tend to be mages not because of a gene but because they interact with their magical parent?


If that's the case there would need to be an age cut-off in which afterwards the child couldn't pick up the talent anymore....perhaps after their brain passes through a specific development stage.    Adults cannot pick this up from other magical adults.

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The Angry One wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

There are also the qunari who keep detailed and complete genalogical records for *everyone.*

Yet, they say magic is contagious. Is it possible the children of mages tend to be mages not because of a gene but because they interact with their magical parent?

Doubtful, Hawke seems to have regarded Malcolm fondly mage or not which would mean they spent a lot of time around him.

When is the earliest magical ability is seen in a child anyway?

Whether you catch a disease from someone is due to more than proximity. Women with Hepatitis C have only a 5% chance to spread it to their children because of maternal antibodies.

If we treat it like a contagion, then it follows that the majority of Thedas' population is probably resistant.

jlb524 wrote...

If that's the case there would need to be an age cut-off in which afterwards the child couldn't pick up the talent anymore....perhaps after their brain passes through a specific development stage.    Adults cannot pick this up from other magical adults.

Puberty makes sense.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 17 avril 2011 - 02:08 .