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If Carver were Bethany's identical twin, would she be a mage?


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Should also point out that as twins, one has blue eyes and the other has brown eyes. They're not much alike at all but apparently they are still twins.

edited to add.

Default Male Hawke's eyes are brown like Bethany's eyes. Meanwhile default Female Hawke's eyes match Leandra & Carver's eyes.

Modifié par Torax, 17 avril 2011 - 02:10 .


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Maria Caliban

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Should it be 'was' or 'were' in the title?

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The Angry One

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I'm not sure magic as a disease works though, for examle were there ever any mages close to Connor before he showed magic?
Well unless adults can act as carriers.

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The Angry One wrote...

I'm not sure magic as a disease works though, for examle were there ever any mages close to Connor before he showed magic?

We have no clue. Most mages outside of the Circle probably try to not stand out.

(Save for PC and Co, who all run around with magical staves on their back)

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Maria Caliban wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm not sure magic as a disease works though, for examle were there ever any mages close to Connor before he showed magic?

We have no clue. Most mages outside of the Circle probably try to not stand out.

(Save for PC and Co, who all run around with magical staves on their back)


They are just umm, walking sticks. There is a lot of steps in kirkwall afterall. Wearing all that cloth gets tiring...

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Torax wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I'm not sure magic as a disease works though, for examle were there ever any mages close to Connor before he showed magic?

We have no clue. Most mages outside of the Circle probably try to not stand out.

(Save for PC and Co, who all run around with magical staves on their back)


They are just umm, walking sticks. There is a lot of steps in kirkwall afterall. Wearing all that cloth gets tiring...


But you never see them used for that purpose, LIES!  :D

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I wonder if you could get away with claiming that the Staff of Parlathan is just an elaborate orange peeler.

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The Angry One wrote...

I wonder if you could get away with claiming that the Staff of Parlathan is just an elaborate orange peeler.


Must you be reminded that this is Kirkwall?

You can tell them it's a toothpick and they'll buy it.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I wonder if you could get away with claiming that the Staff of Parlathan is just an elaborate orange peeler.


Must you be reminded that this is Kirkwall?

You can tell them it's a toothpick and they'll buy it.


Well I was imagining a mage existing in a world where the Templars don't all sleep in a barracks with a leaking gas valve and the citizenry aren't staring at their shoes in wonder.

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Maybe you could tell them that it is one of Isabela's more substantial "toys"...

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 17 avril 2011 - 02:53 .


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I would say yes.

Maybe it works like certain conditions such as sickle-cell anemia. Having one gene is actually good and grants you immunities, but inheriting the gene from both parents mean you get sickle-cell anemia.

Or maybe it more resembles things like obesity. If one identical twin is obese, the other one is likely to be too, but not necessarily?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Should it be 'was' or 'were' in the title?


Were. It's hypothetical, and thus, subjunctive.

If they were identical twins, that means the egg was seeded and then split, rather than being seperately seeded like fraternal twins. So, yes, they would be genetically identical and thus extremely extremely likely to both develop magic. Not 100% guaranteed, but in the high 90s.

The gene can probably crop up randomly, may even be latent in the genetics of Thedosian species, but having mages in the geneaology probably increases the chances by a lot. Combining the already magey Amell genes and the very magey Hawke genes = buttload of potential for the gene to occur.

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It's mentioned, I forget by whom, that Tevinter has purposefully bred themselves to strengthen magical abilities in the bloodline.  We can conclude that there is reasonably a genetic component to magic abilities.  So then the question is, are identical twins truly exactly the same save for how the world shapes their personalities?

Apparently, no.  While the DNA is identical, things like fingerprints aren't.  And yet so much is.  Being that there's no magic in the real world and no DNA scanning technology in Thedas, we can only speculate which category magical ability falls into.

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Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Should it be 'was' or 'were' in the title?

Were. It's hypothetical, and thus, subjunctive.

Danke.

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You can't have identicle twins with different genders, that would be fraternal. Two eggs released by the ovaries and fertalized at the same time. Identicle twins are one egg split after fertilization into two people with identicle DNA. Sorry, I did a term paper in Biology class in college on the different types of twins.

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its possible when they where in the womb Bethany got the mage gene along with the female cromozone. carver got the male cromozone and is more templar like due to a possible magic resistence due to this birthright.

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Did it say they were identical twins?

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I had friends who were identical twins. You could hardly tell them apart, except that one was a little taller. However, the egg must have split down the middle, because one was left-handed, and the other right-handed. Other twins split front to back. There are even people who absorb a fraternal twin in the womb and end up as chimeras, with different parts of their bodies having different DNA.

Since identical twins show copy number variants on their genomes, it's possible that the disposition toward magical ability might only show up on one twin. We still haven't resolved whether it's genetic or not.

Wynne said she was taken to the Circle at the age of five, so it shows up pretty early.

I'm curious about exposure to lyrium and magical ability. The dwarves are immune to magical ability because of their exposure to lyrium (I think), however, Templars require lyrium and then become addicted, whereas I haven't heard of mages being addicted to it. So if a templar and a mage had a child, or a mage and a dwarf, would it have magical ability?

Also, Hawke's mother did say her line carried magic, and she married a mage. It is kind of odd that Carver missed out. I wonder which is dominant and which recessive? Maybe Bethany and Carver were fraternal twins with two different fathers! :o

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Tuilinn Celeborne wrote...

I had friends who were identical twins. You could hardly tell them apart, except that one was a little taller. However, the egg must have split down the middle, because one was left-handed, and the other right-handed.


Factoid of the day:  Due to some number crunching, scientists long theorized that many left-handed people were the result of an egg splitting and the right-handed twin didn't survive past the very early stages of development.  Modern scanning machines such as ultrasounds have confirmed this theory.  So if you're a southpaw reading this, condolences on your brother/sister.

or a mage and a dwarf


I think the better question is: how much liquor would have to be involved in this unholy experiment?

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Rifneno wrote...

or a mage and a dwarf


I think the better question is: how much liquor would have to be involved in this unholy experiment?


One shot of Garbolg's Backcountry Reserve should knock 'em right out!