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So Who was before the Protheans?


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The Keepers were probably the first race considering they're hardwired into the Citadel, which is the beacon both for the Reapers' return and as a rallying point for all space faring species from the beginning of the reaper cycle.

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Other species may have fought back but the protheans actually managed to slow them down and close them off in dark space which is why they could leave so many clues.

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 Who was before the protheans?

THE FORERUNNERS

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I've always wondered if the Keepers are related to the Rachni. Regardless, it's very clear from the clues that Bioware has strewn around the planets that there has been hundreds and possibly thousands of civilizations destroyed by the Reapers. They may not do the same thing every time though, but either way it happens a bit and it works every time.

This just makes me hope again that there is an option to lose ME3 like there was Jade Empire. The stakes are much higher when you can actually lose.

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xI extremist Ix wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

If there has been at least 740 cycles than there are at least 740 Reapers.


Not true. There have been some taken out by past races, such as the derelict reaper.

We don't know how many have been taken out in previous cycles.


Tww have been known, Soveriegn and the Derelict Reaper. That Reaper is estimated to be the 37,000,000 year old one. Given that than there are more than 740 cycles to be present. Therefore, it is likely that more than 740 Reapers exist to date and fewer have perished than created. If Reapers were being destroyed faster than they were being processed than the Reapers would have upped' their tech or reduce the cycle to the current 50,000 years. That being said it is logical to think that there are at least 740 Reapers because it is a safe number, but not as safe as at least one Reaper, Harby.

Besides, would have still complained if I said at least 738?


Technically there should be a absolutely loads more than 740 Reapers.  Earth alone (in ME) has 13 billion people, now we don't know how many humans are needed to make a Reaper but if we use a generous 10 million people per Reaper then they could make 1300 Reapers from Earth alone.  Now obviously they have used other species in the past or they wouldn't exist.  So, what if in previous cycles the usable race had spread out as much as the Protheans had?  Instead of 13 Billion, they had Trillions.  How many Reapers could be made during that cycle?  If we say 5 Trillion then they could make about 500,000 more Reapers.

Depending on how Bioware writes this we could be seriously outnumbered here.

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Just because the derelict reaper is estimated to be 37 million years old doesn't mean the others are the same age. Also I would like to see something involving the planet Klencory.

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Dave666 wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

If there has been at least 740 cycles than there are at least 740 Reapers.


Not true. There have been some taken out by past races, such as the derelict reaper.

We don't know how many have been taken out in previous cycles.


Tww have been known, Soveriegn and the Derelict Reaper. That Reaper is estimated to be the 37,000,000 year old one. Given that than there are more than 740 cycles to be present. Therefore, it is likely that more than 740 Reapers exist to date and fewer have perished than created. If Reapers were being destroyed faster than they were being processed than the Reapers would have upped' their tech or reduce the cycle to the current 50,000 years. That being said it is logical to think that there are at least 740 Reapers because it is a safe number, but not as safe as at least one Reaper, Harby.

Besides, would have still complained if I said at least 738?


Technically there should be a absolutely loads more than 740 Reapers.  Earth alone (in ME) has 13 billion people, now we don't know how many humans are needed to make a Reaper but if we use a generous 10 million people per Reaper then they could make 1300 Reapers from Earth alone.  Now obviously they have used other species in the past or they wouldn't exist.  So, what if in previous cycles the usable race had spread out as much as the Protheans had?  Instead of 13 Billion, they had Trillions.  How many Reapers could be made during that cycle?  If we say 5 Trillion then they could make about 500,000 more Reapers.

Depending on how Bioware writes this we could be seriously outnumbered here.


Which is why I said at least 740. But I am a believer that the Reapers make one of their own per galactic civilization exterminated. So the ME universe could support between 1-17 Reapers, but I think that it takes more than 10 million humans because the collectors were going to attack Earth, there are more than 10 million humans in the colonies. The Moon has 5 million as does Terra Nova.

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xI extremist Ix wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

xI extremist Ix wrote...

If there has been at least 740 cycles than there are at least 740 Reapers.


Not true. There have been some taken out by past races, such as the derelict reaper.

We don't know how many have been taken out in previous cycles.


Tww have been known, Soveriegn and the Derelict Reaper. That Reaper is estimated to be the 37,000,000 year old one. Given that than there are more than 740 cycles to be present. Therefore, it is likely that more than 740 Reapers exist to date and fewer have perished than created. If Reapers were being destroyed faster than they were being processed than the Reapers would have upped' their tech or reduce the cycle to the current 50,000 years. That being said it is logical to think that there are at least 740 Reapers because it is a safe number, but not as safe as at least one Reaper, Harby.

Besides, would have still complained if I said at least 738?


Technically there should be a absolutely loads more than 740 Reapers.  Earth alone (in ME) has 13 billion people, now we don't know how many humans are needed to make a Reaper but if we use a generous 10 million people per Reaper then they could make 1300 Reapers from Earth alone.  Now obviously they have used other species in the past or they wouldn't exist.  So, what if in previous cycles the usable race had spread out as much as the Protheans had?  Instead of 13 Billion, they had Trillions.  How many Reapers could be made during that cycle?  If we say 5 Trillion then they could make about 500,000 more Reapers.

Depending on how Bioware writes this we could be seriously outnumbered here.


Which is why I said at least 740. But I am a believer that the Reapers make one of their own per galactic civilization exterminated. So the ME universe could support between 1-17 Reapers, but I think that it takes more than 10 million humans because the collectors were going to attack Earth, there are more than 10 million humans in the colonies. The Moon has 5 million as does Terra Nova.


I get what you're saying, but remember that in ME:2 EDI and Mordin speculate that it'd take millions more to finish the Termireaper, not Billions, Millions, which means that there's a potential to make a load of Reapers out of the Humans on Earth.  Hence my suggestion that depending on how Bioware writes this we could litterally be facing a horde.

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Please don't give ideas to EA's marketing dept. Or we may have indeed a prequel spin-off with dinosaurs.

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Why do you guys equate 740 cycles to 740 reapers? What has cycles got to do with the number of reapers? I failt to see the correlation.

It's pretty clear that their numbers are in the thousands, at the very least, if not millions judging from ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par Shadowbanner, 17 mai 2011 - 09:23 .


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Shadowbanner wrote...

Why do you guys equate 740 cycles to 740 reapers? What has cycles got to do with the number of reapers? I failt to see the correlation.

It's pretty clear that their numbers are in the thousands, at the very least, if not millions judging from ME1 and ME2.


On the plus side, all those people who are expecting to face a few hundred Reapers in ME:3 might be in for one hell of a wake up call when several hundred thousand Reapers show up.  Serious case of 'Oh crap! How the hell am I going to stop this?'

Going way off topic here so I've created a thread for it.

Modifié par Dave666, 17 mai 2011 - 09:46 .


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Dead people.

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In the real world, if we do encounter other alien races...We'd probably have to fight over them for diminished resources. I would hate for that to happen, but ...knowing humanity, we'd probably have a war.
In the ME universe, I don't see how after 37 million years, they still have plenty of resources. But I guess it doesn't have to make sense, being sci-fi and all.

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SilentNukee wrote...

In the real world, if we do encounter other alien races...We'd probably have to fight over them for diminished resources. I would hate for that to happen, but ...knowing humanity, we'd probably have a war.
In the ME universe, I don't see how after 37 million years, they still have plenty of resources. But I guess it doesn't have to make sense, being sci-fi and all.

Doubtful. Resources are likely to be plentiful, just find a star system and get helium/hydrogen from the gas giants and look through the asteroids for light metals, while seeing if the rock planets have gold and platinum.

They would likely only war over habitable planets (assuming they require the same environment to live as us, which is rather unlikely)

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Maybe some kind of ... I like to think that they were mammals because purely biologically - mammals are superior adaptation wise. And we have thumbs. I'll bet anything on that the ones who came before the Protheans had thumbs. It's only Elcor and Hanar who are weird that way.

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Urdnot Orrad wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...annon#Inusannon


I followed that link to the planet they warred over, and saw the "Trivia" part on that page... I laughed so hard....


What? Why?