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#26
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While i critisise CD Projeckt's direction with the one game they made a lot i have nothing against them personally. However i agree with the OP that the hype for The Witcher 2 is pretty ridiculous considering it's from a company that has only released the one game which was an alright game. I wasn't keen on it relying on "adult content" to cover up what it lacked in storytelling and gameplay but i've played much worse RPG's. The Witcher 2 may or may not be an improvement but the ammount of hype it gets from a few screenshots and gameplay videos is just funny like "omg the game looks so good" of course it looks good that is what marketing is all about. They are only going to show you the best bits they can. They aren't going to show you how it's a buggy mess or they made graphical mistakes in an areas or whatever. When the first game came out it was a bug ridden mess that looked crap. They had to release a whole new "Enhanced" version and charge people again just to get a better experience. If Bioware made an "Enhanced" version of Dragon Age 2 and said "Yeah if you want an updated version you need to buy the game again" The Witcher fans would be all over making fun of it while forgetting CD Projeckt did the same thing.

I'm getting a little off track but all i'll say is don't jump on the hype train just yet. Maybe in another year or so they'll make a Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition if the next game is a mess as well.

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wolfsite wrote...

Honestly based on how they have been presenting the Witcher 2 and many , many fan posts about the game it feels like CDproject is more interested in making porn games.

That does also raise some warning bells since many games in the past that ended about being real bad normally just threw in a lot of sex and nudity for the game to sell.

And yes before I get killed and sacrificed by the CDproject fanboys I have played the Witcher 1 and was honestly left very dissappointed by it (and yes I have played RPG's for years and years).


I don´t think Witcher is much about sex and nudity (TW1 wasn´t, for sure). It just seems that way because that´s all that the media care for.

Killing 10000000 of people? Eh we do that in every game since 20 years. BUT BOOOOOBS? AND UNCENSORED SEX?! THE OUTRAGE! BURN THE WITCHE®S!!!!!!!!!

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Moondoggie wrote...

They had to release a whole new "Enhanced" version and charge people again just to get a better experience. If Bioware made an "Enhanced" version of Dragon Age 2 and said "Yeah if you want an updated version you need to buy the game again"


That is just a blatant lie. You only had to pay for the enhanced Edition if you didn´t own the game before. Those possessed the game already could download the enhanced for free.

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Tirigon wrote...

That is just a blatant lie. You only had to pay for the enhanced Edition if you didn´t own the game before. Those possessed the game already could download the enhanced for free.


Who cares? Sex cards!

CDProject sucks.

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Cd project puts much love in what they are making in the witcher 2 and please stop attack the sex card is pathetic......

I already show with link but this camp is a fine example of how cd project care for detail and immersion:

its an huge work the game in the video is like alive.. Kirkwall in dragon age 2 is almost empty and the majority of rpg stands whitout do nothing,,,

I also love the game design and the combat ofcourse dragon age 2 felt like a choppy manga novel.. With all those absurd animation the witcher 2 is stilish and animations are fluid and very good:


Who say cd-project is interested on porn is ignorant..

Look now the combat in dragon age 2 its something ridicolus and hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjpuvdq8FJo

And that is a nice example of how felt alive kirkwall -_-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXvbKldYwko
Nice texture but total lack of detail

But if you want to be blind feel free to do so :P

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Khayness wrote...

Who cares? Sex cards!

CDProject sucks.


Lol.

CD Project at least cares for their fans. Wish one could say about other companies.

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Breasts, banter, bastards and broadswords.

The stuff of legends right Boo.

So long as they're good i'll invite both to my boudoir and share many hours of sweet imaginative fun with them, i'm a gaming harlot and I cannot lie.

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Well given its an uncharted island...I don't see how bringing games would help, considering you left out a system and tv, or a PC, nevermind power issues....so unless I sharpen the CD's and use them to kill the local wild life or as a signel to passing boats or the like, I think I'll trade my games for a gun and the matching ammo. Or some Potassium and Magnesium. Hell with rubbing sticks together for a fire.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 17 avril 2011 - 12:36 .


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Tirigon wrote...

Khayness wrote...

Who cares? Sex cards!

CDProject sucks.


Lol.

CD Project at least cares for their fans. Wish one could say about other companies.


its useless quote phrases like that... someone are not able to watch thing in a very objective way

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Come on. This game looks gorgeous. And look those gifs have more environments then Dragon Age 2 >.>


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Modifié par Ringo12, 17 avril 2011 - 01:32 .


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A guy just got sat on fire yet his skin isn't burning... and another sliced through his neck and no blood? I hope they fix those issues, as a pretty background doesn't make up for that.

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Yes, we all know "the Witcher 2" is pretty. I would really like to see a believable argument based on something else now. Those graphics are inferior to "Skyrim", yet they keep getting propped up as this unassailable strength. They are not *that* amazing outside a DA2 comparison.

Modifié par Seagloom, 17 avril 2011 - 02:00 .


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How many people jumping on The Witcher 2 bandwagon can honestly say they really like the first one? Seriously anyone hyped by graphics will be disappointed.

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Sooo.... does this thread has a sole purpose of rallying all those who dislike the Witcher?

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KenKenpachi wrote...

A guy just got sat on fire yet his skin isn't burning... and another sliced through his neck and no blood? I hope they fix those issues, as a pretty background doesn't make up for that.



Are you serious? That isn't a cutscene it's just an instant kill from building up a meter. I don't see you complaing when Fenris does this it's look even worse yet it doesn't matter. And look a knife in the back and no blood at all here either  yet no complains that every single character just happens to always have a knife I can understand blood mages carrying them but everyone else? And the Witcher 2 stab does have blood but so what it's just a minor detail and Bioware themselves did the same.

And I don't care about the graphics but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. I am playing Witcher 1 right now preparing for Witcher 2 by beating the games to have my saves ready. Same thing I did with Mass Effect 1 and same thing I did with Dragon Age Origins.

Modifié par Ringo12, 17 avril 2011 - 02:28 .


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Avalla'ch wrote...

Sooo.... does this thread has a sole purpose of rallying all those who dislike the Witcher?


I do not know about that. Speaking for myself, I have no problem with it. I just think the comparisons between it and DA2 are getting old. Maybe discussion will be more interesting once it launches and forumites start discussing the actual game; rather than how it measures up to BioWare stuff.

Modifié par Seagloom, 17 avril 2011 - 02:25 .


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Might as well just hand the Off-Topic Forums over to The Witcher at this point.
I had a bit of fun with the 1st game, I'm a bit turned-off by the way they're handling some of the Marketing for TW2.
They're probably talking about the Game less on the Witcher Forums.

Modifié par Deathwurm, 17 avril 2011 - 02:34 .


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Deathwurm wrote...
They're probably talking about the Game less on the Witcher Forums.


Nope >.> I frequent those forums as much as this one. A lot of Bioware fans over there to, we can like more then one game.

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KenKenpachi wrote...

A guy just got sat on fire yet his skin isn't burning... and another sliced through his neck and no blood? I hope they fix those issues, as a pretty background doesn't make up for that.



Pre-Beta version. Besides, it is still better than the 100000 liters of BLOOOOOD approach of DA2.........

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Ringo12 wrote...

Deathwurm wrote...
They're probably talking about the Game less on the Witcher Forums.


Nope >.> I frequent those forums as much as this one. A lot of Bioware fans over there to, we can like more then one game.


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Come on. This game looks gorgeous. And look those gifs have more environments then Dragon Age 2 >.>


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Style over substance.

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My problem with this sort of thing is that we can all have opinions about how pretty the game is or isn't. What I want to know first and foremost is how it plays. How buggy is it? Is the story interesting? Who can I play as? How customizable is it? Is it linear? How long can I play? Will it play on my system? How much will it cost? Is it fun? How quickly will the fixes come after release?

Witcher 1 was amazingly buggy on release (it's largely been fixed). Fallout: New Vegas still doesn't work on my machine. DA2 has some annoying bugs right now, but is largely playable.

I don't know the answers for most of those questions for Witcher 2 or for Skyrim. Neither does anyone.

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

Style over substance.


*cough Dragon Age 2 cough*

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Bugs can be fixed (whether through patches or the buyer himself) but crappy design is forever.

Anyways, I think the comparisons mostly come from that they are two fantasy RPGs, both are sequels, both are claimed to be "mature games". And of course, the ever popular fact that one developer is going Hollywood while the other developer is the popular "underdog" and saying the right things to appease the more hardcore crowds. Not exactly a unique situation in history I don't think.

While I think DA2 sucked pretty badly, the Witcher 2 has to have a lot of improvements from the first game if I'm to consider it a good game.

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ErichHartmann wrote...

How many people jumping on The Witcher 2 bandwagon can honestly say they really like the first one? Seriously anyone hyped by graphics will be disappointed.


Me.