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[Gavinthelocust]

I see what you did there, Ostagar was being overrun by foreign people coming from the south and the locals have to put up a barrier to keep them from crossing over.
Social commentary lol.

[chunkyman]

Why won't this thread die?!?! I've seen it for, well, 5 months.

[SkittlesKat96]

I suppose the Qunari are a bit like the fundamentalist and pre-modern time Muslims in the sense that they wish to conquer the known world and convert people to their belief system, but to be fair we still know little about the Qunari. In fact, do they even believe in a God or deity?

Orlais being France and Ferelden being England makes sense, I'd say Orlais is like medieval France and Ferelden like one of the England kingdoms in the Dark Ages or something. The Fereldens have always seemed a bit savage to me, anyone else agree?

As for Ostagar being the USA I don't even know what to say about that...

[GodWood]

SkittlesKat96 wrote...
I suppose the Qunari are a bit like the fundamentalist and pre-modern time Muslims in the sense that they wish to conquer the known world and convert people to their belief system,

Well that's pre-modern Christianity as well 

but to be fair we still know little about the Qunari. In fact, do they even believe in a God or deity?

No.

[rawlins86]

dont know if its just me but the qunari remind me of russian communists in a way

[Auroras]

Ostagar = USA... what the heck. How did you come to that conclusion...?

[xkg]

chitek23 wrote...
Antiva:  Spain (some in-game NPCs speaks sometimes spanish, also Zevran used some spanish words)

http://social.biowar...425645/1#425979 

[Tainan7509]

So the Kirkwall will be Jerusalem. Orsino and his fellow mages represent Saladin and Muslims. And Meredith and her fellow templars represent King Richard the Lion-Hearted (or Frederick I Barbarossa if you want) and Crusades. Love This combination.

[Taz_InfiltratGW]

To be honestly think?

u shouldnt say Qun are to Islam since none of their beliefs arent anywhere the same butinstead similar? also I think the countries/kingdoms in Thedas arent nations based but are ethnicity/nationalism/dynasties 

 

Anderfels: Germans

Antiva:  Italian

Ferelden: British

Free Marches: Scottish/Irish accent based BUT follow very small secular United Nation scale in terms of diversity/form of govts which r republics

Nevarra: Portuguese

Orlais: France

Rivain: African/Desi or West Indies

Tevinter Imperium: Byzantine Empire (eastern roman empire)

Par Vollen- Indigenous Americas (the whole landmass from Canada to South America excluding Caribbean)

this is excluding religion as a factor? n Also EVERYONE Qunari Kossith R foreigners from different continent!!!!

 

Religions:

§  Chantry: Christainity

§  Elven Pantheon: “Good” polytheism(because they worship idols)

§  Imperial Chantry: Eastern Orthodox Catholic (The game/comic writer David Gaider says so “the Tevinter Imperium is loosely based on the real-world Roman Empire, especially in its later Byzantine period.” Which u cant argue to facts? But for some reason the this Chantry sound more like Islamic group based on the description lore of their faith?)

§  Old Gods: Bad polytheism (more on worshipping “animals” who r sentient)

§  The Stone: worshipping ancestors alive or dead

§  Qun: According to David Gaider, the Qun is not an atheistic belief system. And based on the wear its more Asian samurai look I would say specific aspect of Buddha.

 

Since Im a muslim I think i can say this:

Kirkwall cant really be Jerusalem because it doenst have all necessary faiths intervening? Kirkwall has a Political Correction atmosphere which would reject Imperial Chantry n Qun ideals n allows innovated Elven city folk ideas NOT DALISH ideals.......If anything Kirkwall = Western powers conflict with Japan,Vietnam,n Korea.

PROOF:

1.Qunari had ship wrecked on shores of Kirkwall/American ships had decked or ship wrecked at Japan.

2. Japan bombed pearl harbor in Hawaii later in history Japan was nuked by Americans/ Chantry{japan}(if u see it as a Militia) was BLOWN by ANDERS(american) n Chantry MASSACRED ALL MAGES throughout KIRKWALL but if u sided with mages was stopped?

​3.Circle dissolved just like Korea became North n South Korea

4. It came to be that Chantry was corrupted calling forth the dissolved Circle of Magi.......just like America was wrong to HAVE INVOLVED ITSELF in VIETNAM (making todays vietnam communist)n KOREA split into 2 groups NorthvsSouth(on a stand still WAR to this day)!!!

 

If Islam has any representation its on DA then its most likely the Belief of uncauseable god who created EVERYTHING in DragonAge n Imperial views on Andraste as normal human chosen by The Maker, NOT as his wife, with mage like abilities by the WILL of the MAKER, calling forth the Idea that Magic MUST NOT RULE OVER HUMANITY but should work to help HUMANITY!!!!! n Qun's style of studying the Qunlet holy book in comics that the person learning the Qun without juggle other stuff for it will distract them to their ORIGINAL PURPOSE in life n the way conviction from those who practice the Qun is eloquent?

 

also the TRUE EVENTS/HISTORY of Thedas IN MY OPINION represents Quran verse:

http://quran.com/sea...alsehood&page=1

where all falsehood will be accounted later in life n good actions will shape a better future(the good n bad is based on ur innate feeling which is subjective..etc.....)

 

I sorry if i said anything wrongful towards anyone but this my input on it from my understanding?

[caradoc2000]

Great job necromancing a three plus years old thread.

 

To paraphrase Han Solo: "Where did you dig up that old fossil anyway"

[Fiery Phoenix]

Ah, love me some necromancing...

[Taz_InfiltratGW]

....not to be weird because this stuff isnt my thing but did anyone read mine?

[Elfyoth]

Qunari are a combination of the Islam and Chinese culture imo, Elves are jewish-indian combination their main thing is culture and religion and yes I know that the Dalish are more like Yeshivot but in a indian tribe style genius!
chantry christians, templars are templars. Ostagar USA, cuz we ALL know US is soooo small just 50 countries or smthing Dwarves=Mayan culture Orlais=France Fereldan=England (ps there is a city named Kirkwall in the UK) so Free Marches Antiva=Spain Nevarra=Portugal? Rivian=? Tevinter Imperium= Byzantion. Anderfels=? Why would the anderfels be based on Germany? Remember pepole this are only my opinnions. Edit: and for the pepole that say Kirkwall is jerusalem I refuse to accept that, I belive that Arlathan is a combination of Jerusalem and Atlantic City.

[Bad King]

Fereldan=England

 

Ferelden is a mix of Celtic Britain & Ireland and Anglo-Saxon England.

[OmegaTaz]

I just figured out the Qun!!!!!!

 

soo I was in Western Civics class in College n as the Teacher Introduced us to Geek's Spartans IT my head CLICKED!!!!!!

 

Qun is Spartan/Chinese!!!!!!!

 

what i said was correct BUT if u play Inquisition u learn more about Qun n that the ONLY hate on mages everyone else who isnt magic talented are just equal from one another!!!!!! regardless of gender/sexuality

Qun train their folk based on tests n Spartans do the same!!! Spartans dont discriminate sexuality n Qun says nothing to restrict sexuality as long as it does harm the decisions of the Qun. Ex: Homosexual can like same sex but Qun will still suit him with opposite sexto get best offspring to train their next gen to be better Qun followers etc......A woman can be in man "work" as long as they can handle the job etc......

 

The Qun is very military runned like Spartans so Qun cant be Chinese muslims but Hybrid of Chinese culture mixed with Spartan train of governance!!!!!!!

 

take a look:http://education-por...-of-sparta.html

[Cecilia]

Actually I think the Qunari are closer to the Ottoman/Turkish Empire that replaced much of what used to be the Roman Empire - it would explain their ongoing conflict with Tevinter which is the Eastern Roman Empire equivalent. Arlathan would be closest to Ancient Greece, from which the Romans/Vints borrowed much of their culture including their theology. The Qunari/Ottomans accepts people of all backgrounds under the Qun, which is similar to the acceptance that characterized the Ottoman Empire (minus religious freedom). There are Buddhist influences in the Qun, but I think historically speaking, the Qunari are closer to the Turks.

 

There isn't really ... an Asia in Thedas. If you want to go with some Asian influence in the Qunari it would be Mongolian (conquerors/militants) rather than Chinese - China historically/culturally was never interested in "spreading" to other cultures. Rather, many scholarly elite criticized the Tang dynasty for spreading too far because the inclusion of foreign cultures and peoples was "corrupting" what it means to be Chinese. China has never been a militant or expansionary power, but rather a cultural and centrist one (China was really only interested in China).

 

Also it's important to note that Buddhism which does seem to influence the design of the Qun isn't a Chinese religion - it originates in India and many of its concepts and philosophies were considered anathemic to Chinese culture when it was first introduced in China. It took years of transformation and evolution for Buddhism to really flourish there - and by that point Buddhism had very little resemblance to its roots. Traditionally, China doesn't even have a Western conception of religion. The Chinese term for religion is "Zong Jiao" which literally means "Teachings of the Ancestors" - much more akin to the dwarves' worship of the Stone than the Qun. If I had to identify a more "Chinese" culture in Thedas I would probably point to the dwarves rather than the Qunari - Confucius is famously described as saying "Zi bu yu guai li luan shen" (I will not speak of strange powers and chaotic gods) and rejecting the importance of supernatural theology to human morality - as agnostic as "religions" really ever get. The Chinese as a culture were also very fascinated with regaining the past - the Chinese concept of "utopia" is apposite to the Western concept of "a place that has never existed." Rather, Chinese traditionally believed that paradise (Da Dao - The Great Way) existed in the distant past and the purpose of moral reflection/study is to try to replicate or return to what has been lost. This also has some parallels with dwarven culture.

 

Overall though, I'm not too comfortable with the only "humans" in Thedas being culturally European, so I'd rather believe there are continents and continents of people with diverse cultures we haven't met yet. (Taoism would have such an interesting philosophical approach to magic and the Fade)

[OmegaTaz]

Actually I think the Qunari are closer to the Ottoman/Turkish Empire that replaced much of what used to be the Roman Empire - it would explain their ongoing conflict with Tevinter which is the Eastern Roman Empire equivalent. Arlathan would be closest to Ancient Greece, from which the Romans/Vints borrowed much of their culture including their theology. The Qunari/Ottomans accepts people of all backgrounds under the Qun, which is similar to the acceptance that characterized the Ottoman Empire (minus religious freedom). There are Buddhist influences in the Qun, but I think historically speaking, the Qunari are closer to the Turks.

 

There isn't really ... an Asia in Thedas. If you want to go with some Asian influence in the Qunari it would be Mongolian (conquerors/militants) rather than Chinese - China historically/culturally was never interested in "spreading" to other cultures. Rather, many scholarly elite criticized the Tang dynasty for spreading too far because the inclusion of foreign cultures and peoples was "corrupting" what it means to be Chinese. China has never been a militant or expansionary power, but rather a cultural and centrist one (China was really only interested in China).

 

Also it's important to note that Buddhism which does seem to influence the design of the Qun isn't a Chinese religion - it originates in India and many of its concepts and philosophies were considered anathemic to Chinese culture when it was first introduced in China. It took years of transformation and evolution for Buddhism to really flourish there - and by that point Buddhism had very little resemblance to its roots. Traditionally, China doesn't even have a Western conception of religion. The Chinese term for religion is "Zong Jiao" which literally means "Teachings of the Ancestors" - much more akin to the dwarves' worship of the Stone than the Qun. If I had to identify a more "Chinese" culture in Thedas I would probably point to the dwarves rather than the Qunari - Confucius is famously described as saying "Zi bu yu guai li luan shen" (I will not speak of strange powers and chaotic gods) and rejecting the importance of supernatural theology to human morality - as agnostic as "religions" really ever get. The Chinese as a culture were also very fascinated with regaining the past - the Chinese concept of "utopia" is apposite to the Western concept of "a place that has never existed." Rather, Chinese traditionally believed that paradise (Da Dao - The Great Way) existed in the distant past and the purpose of moral reflection/study is to try to replicate or return to what has been lost. This also has some parallels with dwarven culture.

 

Overall though, I'm not too comfortable with the only "humans" in Thedas being culturally European, so I'd rather believe there are continents and continents of people with diverse cultures we haven't met yet. (Taoism would have such an interesting philosophical approach to magic and the Fade)

I see where ur going but the Greeks way of living is LITERALLY that same as the Qun? just watch my link about ancient greeks

People of military status have more influence then common Qun follower? Relationships in terms of marriage is based on Qun council controlled arranged marriages like Greek military picking ur wife if u serve the military? Kids rnt even necessary raised by parents in Qun just like Greeks isolate young Greek men who join the army. To make them rely on the units in army in battle then worry there "loved" ones back at State cities?

 

Turks r nowhere near Kossith?{in my opinion} Kossith have more chinese theme like armor? Qun is very bureaucratic like the greeks?

[Spooky81]

Country with no bacon = ineligible candidate for USA

[GoneGrimdark]

Antiva is obviously modeled on Spain, and Orlais on pre-revolution France. I'm not sure about Ferelden... seems like a typical medevial/European fantasy land. Obviously theres very strong middle ages Europe influence going on. I doubt it's any specific country though.

 

And the Tevinter Imperium is ancient Rome. Like, they don't even try to hide it. They are Romans with magic and a different name lol.

 

Qunari are hard, since I don't think they were modeled on any one society. The religion being an integral part of all life and having rather strict rules does seem reminiscent of Islam, so I see how you thought that. I think they even used 'Submission to the Qun' once, which strongly reminded me of Islam since it literally means submitting to God. Society wise, they have pieces of ancient Japan in the Isolationist/Honor/VERY strict hierarchy senses. As well as some communism type hivemind mentality that the individual doesn't matter, only the whole does. And other communistic elements like the 'secret police' who basically 're-educate' anyone who steps out of line. It's more Orwellian than realistic though.

[OmegaTaz]

Qunari are hard, since I don't think they were modeled on any one society. The religion being an integral part of all life and having rather strict rules does seem reminiscent of Islam, so I see how you thought that. I think they even used 'Submission to the Qun' once, which strongly reminded me of Islam since it literally means submitting to God. Society wise, they have pieces of ancient Japan in the Isolationist/Honor/VERY strict hierarchy senses. As well as some communism type hivemind mentality that the individual doesn't matter, only the whole does. And other communistic elements like the 'secret police' who basically 're-educate' anyone who steps out of line. It's more Orwellian than realistic though.

now that u mention it?

Kossith r most likely to be mixture of Asian civilizations? mix of mongols, mix of muslims, asian communists, deep in philosophy/religion even thou they rnt a religious? they dont ignore the reality they limit themselves so they can maintain order?