Miashi wrote...
Overall I'm pretty sure that no one enjoys traffic. Comparing DA:2 to traffic is just proving the point that it's not a good game; that it just depends on how people cope with it.
I hope you don't live in a city like mine.
Persephone wrote...
Eeeeeeeeeeee!!! *Fangirl Squeal* Enhanced Edition, I hope?
Firky wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Lucky.
I found it hard to miss the giant blocks of concrete and unaltered mini map. When it came to Fenris' mansion I thought this is just taking the ******.
Well, it's attitude too. Were the tiny pixelated dragons of Ultima scary? No. Could you bypass them with a Ring of Invisibility? Yes. Did I love them anyway? Sure. I can forgive stuff that isn't always exactly right. Games are like that. It's a reality, and not a new one.
Sometimes I think gamers just don't want to enjoy themselves. I do think that DAII is a good game, as "objectively" as one can think so, but one can alter expectations if one just wants to enjoy a game. Or life, in general. You can be stuck in traffic and angry, beeping at people and feeling stressed. Or, you can turn up the radio and accept that this is part and parcel of living in a busy city.
Miashi wrote...
Firky wrote...
Sometimes I think gamers just don't want to enjoy themselves. I do think that DAII is a good game, as "objectively" as one can think so, but one can alter expectations if one just wants to enjoy a game. Or life, in general. You can be stuck in traffic and angry, beeping at people and feeling stressed. Or, you can turn up the radio and accept that this is part and parcel of living in a busy city.
Enjoyment is relative to anyone. Some people find enjoyment in escapism, other find enjoyment in complexity or challenge. Overall I'm pretty sure that no one enjoys traffic. Comparing DA:2 to traffic is just proving the point that it's not a good game; that it just depends on how people cope with it.
This said, I've often heard store sellers warn me about games I buy. If you're a usual client, they'll be usually pretty candid and advise you for or against a game, and sometimes recommend you alternatives.
The Angry One wrote...
Persephone wrote...
Eeeeeeeeeeee!!! *Fangirl Squeal* Enhanced Edition, I hope?
You realise you just asked someone if they bought The Witcher "the version that actually works".
But then it's amazing what people will forgive The Witcher for, becuase CDP are independant and cool and edgy! <_<
Boiny Bunny wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Persephone wrote...
Eeeeeeeeeeee!!! *Fangirl Squeal* Enhanced Edition, I hope?
You realise you just asked someone if they bought The Witcher "the version that actually works".
But then it's amazing what people will forgive The Witcher for, becuase CDP are independant and cool and edgy! <_<
Really? I mean, the only thing the enhanced edition of The Witcher actually did was reduce loading times dramatically. The other stuff was almost completely irrelevant and went unnoticed. Like generating 3 more unique NPC faces. Re-voicing the characters pointlessly.
The load times were pretty bad - I'll be the first to admit that much. But the game had such cool loading screens and good music that I never got bored waiting for them. Not to mention, they still loaded far faster than DA2 does on a console.
BobSmith101 wrote...
The more realistic something is , the more realistic it needs to be. Plonking down a giant concrete block and not changing the mini map is just lazy in todays games. Leaving the same non rotting corpses on Fenris' floor for years , again lazy.
Firky wrote...
Maybe I am overly positive about games, in general. I do use my imagination to forgive things, tis true. Depsite being female, and a fairly staunch "feminist" in gaming, I also loved The Witcher's sex cards because I thought they made Geralt's promiscuity seem like he was a tragic figure, sterile and lost. Like Farinelli (in the movie, anyway.)
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Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ I quite liked Geralt's 'sex cards' as an artistic way to depict a sex scene.
Screen blacking out + character grinning after = lame and for 12 year olds.
Not so much the 'collection' aspect though.
Guest_Alistairlover94_*
Persephone wrote...
Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ I quite liked Geralt's 'sex cards' as an artistic way to depict a sex scene.
Screen blacking out + character grinning after = lame and for 12 year olds.
Not so much the 'collection' aspect though.
I much preferred the fade out.
Like in the glorious movies of old ala Gone With The Wind with Rhett carrying his Scarlett up the steps -> Fade. -> Fade in to Scarlett looking contented and blissful as well as very amused. Delightful. And people of all ages were happy with that.
Firky wrote...
I dunno if it's lazy (because I don't know what it would take to change) but I just figured Fenris was leaving them around because he was self-hating and drinking too much to care.
Maybe I am overly positive about games, in general. I do use my imagination to forgive things, tis true. Depsite being female, and a fairly staunch "feminist" in gaming, I also loved The Witcher's sex cards because I thought they made Geralt's promiscuity seem like he was a tragic figure, sterile and lost. Like Farinelli (in the movie, anyway.)
I will agree with you on the mini-map though. I was constantly following paths blocked off by "doors".
Guest_Alistairlover94_*
Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ Ah yes, of course. The fade out 'can' be done artistically - but in the context of games, usually isn't. Especially ME2! I was so dissapointed when it blacked out - especially after the more mature approach taken in the first game.
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ Ah yes, of course. The fade out 'can' be done artistically - but in the context of games, usually isn't. Especially ME2! I was so dissapointed when it blacked out - especially after the more mature approach taken in the first game.
But you can leave it to your imagination, instead.
Aermord wrote...
Could we get back on topic, please? - It's "Word of Mouth" and not sex scenes.
Guest_Alistairlover94_*
Boiny Bunny wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ Ah yes, of course. The fade out 'can' be done artistically - but in the context of games, usually isn't. Especially ME2! I was so dissapointed when it blacked out - especially after the more mature approach taken in the first game.
But you can leave it to your imagination, instead.
You can - and sometimes that works, sometimes not. Depends on how the game sets it up. I found that worked like a charm in say Jade Empire, but that was because the conversation before was perfect and it played some nice music while the camera panned up to the sky then faded out.
In ME2, the screen just goes black, blinks back on, and onto new things, all romance forgotten. Achievement unlocked.
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Boiny Bunny wrote...
Alistairlover94 wrote...
Boiny Bunny wrote...
^ Ah yes, of course. The fade out 'can' be done artistically - but in the context of games, usually isn't. Especially ME2! I was so dissapointed when it blacked out - especially after the more mature approach taken in the first game.
But you can leave it to your imagination, instead.
You can - and sometimes that works, sometimes not. Depends on how the game sets it up. I found that worked like a charm in say Jade Empire, but that was because the conversation before was perfect and it played some nice music while the camera panned up to the sky then faded out.
In ME2, the screen just goes black, blinks back on, and onto new things, all romance forgotten. Achievement unlocked.
Now I understand where you're coming from. Yeah, they could've set the fade-out up a bit better.
Still, it's better than Origins dry-humping *cringes*
I agree about the dry humping! And the ugly underpants! Urgh!
Miashi wrote...
The only stance Bioware can really take is to continue to praise their product. Which is more harmful you think? A company trashing its own product or the general public? I mean - you might see some day Bioware saying "DA:2 wasn't our best title", but this will be long down the road, just like it took years for Microsoft to say: IE6 is bad, now look at the new IE we have to offer you. It's a double-edged sword, and badmouthing your own creation will usually end up cutting you.
Modifié par brownybrown, 18 avril 2011 - 01:19 .
Modifié par Miashi, 18 avril 2011 - 02:04 .
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